Ask them how the Uyghurs in China are doing.
Their answer from my last interaction:
-western propaganda
-uyghurs themselves love it
-not forced labour but a vocational school the government put these people under
-amnesty and UN is lying and unreliable
-only reliable source is the blogpost they linked
-it's all anti terrorism effort
-western propaganda
When I brought it up he just said "devoid of context" and stopped replying.
The more consistent take I see simply poses the ugyur genocide falls under a similar definition that includes ongoing genocide of black americans, which tends to meet a lot of resistance.
But much more than that: what I see is issue being taken (usually at the media), with comparing Xinjiang to something like Gaza, while often also denying Israel is committing a genocide.
Don't tell me facts
Grains of truth in each point.
Which is a give away sign of anti-western propaganda. China, russia and the likes.
Their answer is always “something-something western propaganda have you ever seen the camps first-hand you’re swallowing propaganda they’re not real CCP is going to solve global warming with fusion energy”
I got banned from some community or other for laughing at that last part. Not a joke, apparently.
NOOOOOOO THATS FAKE NEWS THERE HAVE NEVER BEEN CONFIRMED REPORTS OF ANYTHING SOMETHING SOMETHING THEY'RE ALL HAPPY AND THE ONES WHO DIED ALL DESERVED IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ummm actually if you look at this CCP-approved news source, they say it's logistically impossible to commit a genocide against that many people without anyone noticing soooo
Just think of all those organs not being harvested!
From the title of that post, I'm getting hella "the right can't meme" vibes (but it's also just fucked up grammatically so maybe that's throwing me off). But at the same time I'm getting tankie vibes from the "what you hope for" side of the meme...
During that era everyone was homophobic. Though the self proclaimed allies of today are a larger threat to our existence than those that openly hate us.
I feel dumb. What’s below Israel’s flag?
One of multiple flags representing terrorism
Tankie, definitely.
Imagine you believe Stalin and Winnie are left
I dont have to. I was 12 at one point too.
Same as on reddit.
I lived happily oblivious of the existence of tankies until I randomly said I was voting for a democratic politician in r/latestagecapitalism.
Yeah, the fact that they're all so anti-voting and/or "both sides"-y is why I think the root of most of the tankies' thinking is Chinese propaganda. Like, just because you vote for someone doesn't mean you are 100% aligned with everything they say. Or even 50% of it. Just means you're more aligned with them than the other option. The only people who could possibly benefit from such a stupid mode of thought are part of authoritarian governments.
Yep. I nearly disagree as much with a democrat as a republican.
But pragmatically, I prefer that trans people and disabled people aren’t literally eradicated, and whether 1% or 50% of the population turn out, the election still stands so I’ll be voting.
That doesn’t mean I don’t do other things in a more revolutionary spirit, but I think it’s dumb not to vote.
Tankies love them some genocide daddies, they never fail to simp for daddy Stalin
Yep. I blocked it. Had my post deleted when rather politely calling out a dumbass trying to assert someone who dared to criticize the religion of leninism. By claiming that they hadn't read enough theory. I simply stated that both Leninism and capitalism are both failed theories.
Bam deletion. Rule 3 attacking socialism. I asked them how I was attacking socialism. Pointing out that I'm left libertarian / anarchist. Very pro socialism. Which they then laughably changed to communist misinformation. Which I then pointed out that that wasn't Rule 3. And it wasn't misinformation.
I only petitioned the deletion though because I knew they could not be neutral or mature. And they did not fail to meet expectations. It's a total Echo chamber.
They've got to stop the trolls you know.
Trolls can't stop themselves. Otherwise they wouldn't be trolls 😋
Is that supposed AOC? Lmfao, I'm pretty sure AOC is anti-israel.
Also, why do they always put the younger portrait of Xi, rather than the most recent one, like most western leaders do? Like just find the Baidu BaiKe (Baidu Wiki) for Xi, and compare it to the Xi on Wikipedia...
Don't want to be reminded of your impending death due to old age, Xi? 🤔
(Like bro, just use a more recent portrait, the younger you looks like an inexperienced idiot)
She's critical enough of Israel to piss off your average zionist, but also don't want to "decolonize" it, which in many tankies' heads equals with the strawman the far-right has about decolonization.
There's a faction of liberals who hate AOC the way 13-year-olds call mom a bitch for making them go to the dentist.
I mean there is a faction of liberals that hate AOC, but the person/people who made the meme definitely aren't liberal.
IMHO the younger one looks like "average guy, not an elite", which is what I think he's going for.
AOC is extremely pro Israel. She still refuses to say Israel is committing genocide.
When you ask the People's Front of Judea who they hate worse, the Romans or the Judean People's Front.
SPLITTERS!
If I was a "leftist" mod of an already very left community and a meme I share with that community is about to reach -70 karma I would abandon my account, request asylum on another instance and call myself the digital Viktor Yanukovych lmao
Anyone crying about nato and specifically citing the ukrainian azov battalion. Is almost certainly a Russian Z Nazi or supporter of them. It's an easy way to identify them since it's an oddly specific combonation of groups to hate.
And for the record. Azov never would have existed if russia didn't start a war against Ukraine in 2014.. eat me
Azov never would have existed if russia didn’t start a war against Ukraine in 2014… eat me
OK. But nobody invoking them now is all that concerned with that.
Personally I got a kick out of Gravel Institute posting a video about Nazis in the Ukraine military talking about Azov shortly before Russia attacked in 2022, and then pulling it down shortly afterward because more or less their exact point was now considered to be Russian far right propaganda. Just such a beautiful example of how things like that can change.
Idk when I say im left wing I mean this:
I feel like this isn't a good example if it's being heavily down voted. Wouldn't that imply the community has an anti-tankie sentiment on the whole? what am I missing
'Run by red fash', the poster is also one of the two mods for the community.
It's actually hilarious that a mod post is that deep in the negatives.
oh yep, there's the mod icon, I'm just a dumbass thanks lol
Who's the guy at the bottom left?
Ibrahim Traoré, a coup leader who took over Burkina Faso, whose government has proposed outlawing homosexuality.
But he's pro-Russia, therefore, Good.
Thanks.
Considering the very concept of "late stage capitalism" is the Marxist Leninist version of the end times, with the revolution being their equivalent of the rapture/the second coming, I would have been surprised if it had been any other way.
Lol on the left two genociders, one man who i actually respect(tried to fix all the shit going on in the world, even if i dont think its the right solution, he at least tried) and one guy who i dont even know. And on the right which is aimed at people like me. Im not a democrat and i think theyre shit(tho im european and would probably vote for them because you dont even have a choice in murica), im sceptic of the new syrian leadership(but hopeful), fuck israel and nato is just free military for us but i think we should invest more into it because the us is a horrible ally as we can see in ukraine. Idk bout the rest. So yeah complete bullshit from tankies as usual.
Is that AoC with a Hitler mustache? Hasn't she specifically condemned Nazis and Genocide?
Yes.
But she's a 'shitlib', and thus a genocide supporter. /s
I fucking hate Tankies
Is this a "not true communism" meme?
Words mean things
I'm not sure what you expected from a community called "late stage capitalism"
Also I find the mustache very funny
Probably expecting discussions regarding late stage capitalism such as examples and possible countermeasures.
Instead it's whatever that is. Clickbait.
You can be anti capitalist and think Stalin and co are massive cunts.
(Anarchism, and most types of marxists that aren’t okay with genocide)
Saying “redfash” is such an annoying way to let everyone know you’ve never read a book in your life.
I don't know why it's controversial that palingenetic ultranationalists peddling totalitarian systems who claim to be socialists and indulge in copious amounts of claimed leftist theory and left-wing aesthetics are both 'red' and 'fascist'.
Read some Mussolini and read some Marx and then explain to me how those two ideologies are in any way similar. Also read some history about how libs always enable fascism by trying to posit the exact point your making right now. It’s literally how Germany rose to fascism. They were not labeling themselves as reds or communists. They were labeling themselves as socialists.
You sound triggered to an extreme degree.
Stay scratched
