Trump Pentagon pick attacks UN and Nato and urges US to ignore Geneva conventions

"At the same time, the man who would head America’s gigantic military has tied US foreign policy almost entirely to the priority of Israel, a country of which he says: “If you love America, you should love Israel.”

Elsewhere, Hegseth appears to argue that the US military should ignore the Geneva conventions and any international laws governing the conduct of war, and instead “unleash them” to become a “ruthless”, "

Fuuuuckin hell!

Indeed and the mofo would start WW III by invading Iran.
This is why we can't ignore it when the only other option is allowed to do whatever because it's not as bad.

If more people had made more noise when Biden continually violated the Leahy Law and circumvented Congress to provide arms to an ongoing genocide... We had a chance to fix the system. To hold him accountable and make sure no matter who was the next president, they'd also be able to be held accountable

Instead the majority of Dems ignored it or worse made excuses for why Biden doesn't need to follow US or international law.
- Letting fascists win and still finding a way to put the REAL blame on the LIBS.
  
  Just absolutely astounding.
- If more people had made more noise when Biden continually violated the Leahy Law and circumvented Congress to provide arms to an ongoing genocide... We had a chance to fix the system. To hold him accountable and make sure no matter who was the next president, they'd also be able to be held accountable.
  
  Citizens did make noise, citizens did point out that he violated Leahy Law, and the way to hold politicians accountable in a democracy is getting them out of office and away from the levers of power. Well here we are, Biden and Dems are going out of office and the genocide is going to be actively being accelerated by the Trump administration gleefully flooding Israel with more weapons "cleanse" Gaza so they can build their gaudy hotels and fulfill some Book of Revelations prophesy because the republican party is absolutely flooded with Dominionists.
  
  Good. Fucking. Job.
- If after making noise, you either voted 3rd party or didn’t vote, you supported even more genocide and allowed Trump to win. Stop with this idiotic line of reasoning that somehow holding Biden accountable was more important than stopping Trump from becoming president.
  
  You Russian stooge.
- Biden didn't actually violate the Leahy Law. Here's the relevant section:
  
  No assistance shall be furnished under this Act or the Arms Export Control Act to any unit of the security forces of a foreign country if the Secretary of State has credible information that such unit has committed a gross violation of human rights.
  
  with a later amendment that included DoD-derived funding.
  
  Which units got arms that were engaged in rights violations? I understand that isn't very satisfying when we know Israel has committed war crimes, but the law does not specify country, it specifies military unit. So, which unit should be barred from receiving arms? The others will still be able to legally receive them in full compliance with the Leahy Law.
  
  Then we also have:
  
  (b) Exception.—The prohibition in subsection (a)(1) shall not apply if the Secretary of Defense, after consultation with the Secretary of State, determines that the government of such country has taken all necessary corrective steps, or if the equipment or other assistance is necessary to assist in disaster relief operations or other humanitarian or national security emergencies.
  
  This clause frankly creates a legal loophole the size of a Merkava.
  
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- Exactly. Democrats failed to end the genocide in Gaza because they didn't create a partisan line in the sand to separate the State's current bipartisan stance towards Israel.
  
  Most Americans support ending the way in Gaza. Kamala should have run with this right out of the gate, breaking away from Biden and cutting any strings she has with him. The reason why Americans and donors pressured Biden to drop out is the same reason why Kamala lost. Both represented more of the same, and that voters felt like the current administration wasn't hearing their voices.
  
  So out of spite or piss poor messaging on the Dems' side, people chose Trump instead.
  
  This is absolutely an issue with establishment Democrats. Don't get discouraged from sharing this idea in a post not having to do with Bernie Sanders or AOC. It's the truth.
- This is why we can’t ignore it when the only other option is allowed to do whatever because it’s not as bad.
  
  It doesn't matter. 99% of voters pick one of the two ruling parties every time, and both of them are pro-genocide.
- I have no idea why you're getting down voted. You're absolutely right. Lots of sour grapes and copium happening with Dems. I plugged my nose voting for Harris feeling what you mentioned in my bones.

Fuck the voices in here lamenting democrats. This is 100% republican evil. 100% republican fault. 100% who they are. Blame them entirely. They have the reigns of power so blame them for what they do with it. When they take over next year, never let up on them. They never let up on the left, so nail them to the fucking wall for every terrible move they make. Don't let any fraud dissuade from the fact that this is the republican party and the blame lies entirely at their feet.

Sorry, but I believe that the people who didn't vote against Trump and the Republicans share some of the blame.

I obviously primarily blame the people who voted for Trump, but even if you don't think there were good reasons to vote FOR Harris (I disagree), it doesn't take much brainpower to recognize that there were a hell of a lot of reasons to vote AGAINST Trump. Those of us who saw 2024 as the moment where not voting or voting stupidly were viable ideas fucked up big time, and now we all are going to suffer the consequences for at least 4 years.

Are we really supposed to pretend to be constantly surprised and outraged over every shithead he appoints and every shitty thing they do? Who has the free time for that? I wasted enough days of my life following and debating every twist and turn of The Trump Show, and all of it was for nothing because a mere 4 years after January 6th 2021 Trump is going to be sworn into office once again as a more unhinged and unmitigated version of himself. Even engaging in this discussion now is a waste of all of our fucking time.

All because 2/3 of this country were too fucking stupid to see that he is a toxic, fascist authoritarian bitch moron. I blame everyone who didn't vote for Harris (like her or hate her) for what is going to transpire over the next 4 years, and I don't care if that hurts their feelings.
- I don't agree. The dnc opted to go with a strategy of, "we don't need to listen to the will of the voters, and we'll double down on doing the same gd thing we've always done, you either get on board, or bad-man wins!"
  
  People want change. DNC refused to make even the hint of willingness to change, it's no surprise they lost so many voters.
  
  This was entirely avoidable.
  
  My only hope is that the DNC will finally wake the fuck up and introduce an actual progressive platform. But shit, I said the same thing when Hillary tanked. So why would it be different now?
Murc's Law.
Oh I agree. Republicans are the originators of all this shit. They are the cause for so much ill effects.

But Democrats are supposed to be that counterbalance in a duopoly. They haven't lived up to that. They'd rather chase after evil instead of standing up for something good.

I'm not sure what's worse. To use a historical example: are the Nazis worse, or are those who didn't speak up and fight back when they could have?
- The Nazis are worse. If you analogy the Nazis are very clearly worse. It's not even close. Yes those who didn't speak up should have if it was safe (or at least not too dangerous) for them to do so, but the Nazis are worse. By, like, a mile.
- So like, is it actually impossible for Americans to recreate a left leaning party and just abandon ship on the Democrats? Why care about them at all? You guys need to start using your imaginations.

If you love America, you should love NATO and be using Ukraine to make sure Russia never has power again. If you really want to game geopolitics you convince Ukraine to capture parts of Russia and you help them out. Israel was important for our God the Petro Dollar, but eventually you can't convince everyone that the kid going around stabbing everyone else is in fact not doing that.

i think the US is already ignoring the Geneva convention.

We've said we'll attack of they ever try to prosecute.
Live long enough to become the villain.
- They never completely got rid of their imperialist tendencies. In 50 years we'll find out what the CIA is going today to destabilise governments.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - not a single redeeming quality in any of Trump's picks.

It’s like being at the circus and watching a clown car pull up and having to witness all of the horrible people piling out of it.
No one should be surprised about that

Does the racist Hesgeth fully understand that the Christians are slowly being squeezed out of Israel too? He should replace his Jerusalem Cross crap with the Star of David.

hesgeth wouldn’t know what a christian was even if he met christ himself
- I'm willing to bet Christ would refuse to acknowledge knowing hesgeth either, based on Matthew 7:22.
Yea but those are not his kind of Christians (evangelical Protestants).Armenians, Greeks, Palestinians, who gives a shit for those guys? Definitely not this americanist racist.
Society would be better off without all of these bullshit religions and the delusion non-thinkers who blindly choose follow them.
- You were downvoted to 0 when I got here. Poor little xtians getting their feelings hurt
  
  People who believe in a fairy sky daddy are mentally ill and shouldn’t be allowed to hold office or control resources.

You want your country to use WWI tactics and leave soldiers behind? This dude is your guy because no competent general will follow his orders. You will see a massive exodus of the top brass and we will be left with the incompetent assholes.

I would wager that much of the top brass would stick around just to cause as many legal problems as they can. We're kinda stubborn that way, though I only made it to mid-brass.

I know pre-trying people for crimes they haven't committed yet is generally a bad thing, but could the ICC make an exception in this case?

Unfortunately the US has a standing legal obligation to invade the Hague in this case cause the 9/11 era Congress had brain worms.
His unit was actually involved in some war crimes. Then he went on fox to defend war crimes.

Ya im sure he'd love it if other nations ignored trade deals with America in response? These people don't know how anything works. Leaving nato and the UN would be catastrophic for our economy.

We can ignore the Geneva Conventions starting with Pete Hegseth.

Geneva Conventions apply to humans...

Welcome to the dark ages.

Cool. I don't love America. I fucking despise this country and everything it stands for. Israel can fall with it, never should have existed in the first place.

The world would be leagues better for it.

Cool, may you get your wish and live in a Chinese/Russian dominated part of the world.
- Nice false dichotomy you got there bucko.
  
  Imperialism is bad no matter the flavor.

Reading through this .. it sounds much worse than I thought.

Puppet state

Don't worry, we already do!

Big fan of NATO, but the UN is an antisemitic fascist/arab playground unfit for purpose, and has been for decades now. Also not a fan of this MAGA rapist, but that goes without saying.