Leak: Valve is making a Steam Controller 2

Give me the Steam Deck layout sans screen and I'll buy several.

So fucking fed up being charged out the ass for a few extra buttons and/or shitty build quality.

I went through RMAing SIX god damn Xbox elite 2 controllers before just giving up and getting my CC agency involved to get my money back.

I just want a controller with back pedals and touchpads for mouse emulation. Is that so hard?

Give me the Steam Deck layout sans screen and I'll buy several.

This, they should include gyro too ideally if that doesn't go without saying
- I never got into gyro controls. What are the pros for you?
- The original Steam Controller has gyro, so I can't imagine they'd leave it out of a successor.
It’s wild to me that somehow the elite controllers are worst than their cheaper brothers. I’ve owned both series. Both sucked hard.
- Not to defend Microsoft, but I haven't had any issues with my Elite 2 controller, and I've had it for a couple of years at least.
This 100%. Personally I'm happy with the build quality on my Elite 2, but I hate that it requires Windows 10+ to update the firmware. And it really needs a trackpad.
But with hall effect, and slightly more angled triggers for better ergonomics since it doesnt have to be flat. And.. and..
if it ends up being like the steam deck layout, they'll probably just fuse the touch screens into one larger one in the center of the controller, towards the bottom. At that point, it would probably just be pretty similar to the playstation controller, but with slightly more questionable ergonomics, or maybe a more usable touchscreen.
You're not seriously asking for that button arrangement right? The D-pad is so uncomfortable to use. I love my Steam Deck, but I accept the button arrangement as an acceptable cope.
steam deck shell with a slot for your phone or a power bank or a slice of toast if that's what you want
I get the cheap GameSir controllers and they work fine. I've got probably 10 of them running around and I need to grab two more to replace my dying Stadia controllers. None have given me a moment of trouble.

That said, I'm not picking up two more if there's a new steam controller coming. I'll wait. I don't usually need more than 8 at once so I can put it on the back burner for now until I need to host a holiday.
- I don't usually need more than 8 at once
  
  This implies that sometimes you do—what situations are coming up where you need 8+ controllers?

I hope they improve on the following

The touchpads and paddle "clicks" are way too noisy
An actual D-pad
ABXY buttons less mushier
USB-C port for charging
Similar to Steam Deck layout
A place to store the USB dongle inside the controller when not in use
Better rumble

I switched to an 8bitdo controller with hall effect joysticks since, but I do miss the touchpad's precision for FPS.

I'd base all expectations on Steam Deck not Controller v1. You can already see the lessons learned in the deck.
The clicky-ness of the touchpad, paddles, shoulder buttons etc. is one of the things if absolutely love about the OG Steam Controller
- Their clickyness in themselves is good and responsive, it's just that it's too noisy to my taste.
Native support for games - have it use the Xbox or PlayStation profile

Don't require that abysmal Big Picture mode for remapping, custom layouts, etc.
- Onboard remapping profiles would be nice, I use them on my 8bitdo controller and I can toggle them on-the-fly.
  
  I personally remap the paddles mostly, but still.
The only reason I stopped using mine was because the membrane that makes the ABXY feel mushy eventually went and I couldn't find a suitable replacement.

If they put in some sort of mechanical switches there so that this couldn't happen, I would probably never use anything else.
Yes to all this. I picked up my original Steam Controller the other day and forgot just how crazy loud that thing is.
Why were you using haptic vibrations on touchpads? I switched them off the moment I discovered I can, they are really annoying
- It feels like it's missing something without rumble..

My day 1 ordered Steam Controller is still going strong but I’ve been constantly worrying about the day it dies. Can’t wait, if this rumour proves to be true.

Same here. I'm more worried about losing the USB Dongle.
- It can be put into Bluetooth mode. Works just as well. As someone who lost their dongle
- Me too! I literally keep it permanently in a portable usb hub so it’s harder to lose.
Mine had slid off the footrest I had stupidly placed it on overnight and I didn't notice that so I sat down and jerked my computer chair forward, one wheel right into the controller. It's crazy how much it broke, one side cracked, including the PCB and both the bumber and trigger on that side got badly deformed.

RIP friend, you were the best.
- F
  
  (mapped to X thanks to Steam Input)
I have mine still, dongle too, but it started constantly dropping the connection to the Steam Deck and I can’t figure out why.

Maybe this is how it dies, not with a bang but with a whimper.
- Firmware up to date? I have no issues with mine although the range on the dongle is pretty weak which did cause it to drop connection but it went away completely after running a USB extension cable from my Deck’s dock so the dongle is closer to me when I’m sat on the sofa.
- I have this issue too it's from the board being dropped a lot / age. I bought an extra used controller and some 3d printed replacement shoulders and I've been able to fix them pretty well. Unfortunately there is no way to fix the board I wasn't able to discern any kind of issue with the parts but I don't have voltage schematic to figure out what might have went bad I suspect a capacitor or something. I still use them every day though they are great. I hate the new steam interface though cause they dropped a lot of advanced features
I've bought 4 steam controllers. I use two, and have two in backup as I assumed they wouldn't make more, so u had to keep spares.
- I envy you deeply. My biggest regret is not stocking up when they were really cheap. I just didn’t think Valve would stop making them. At least they never stopped supporting it!
One of my best Goodwill finds ever was a near-mint Steam controller for 10$ to replace the one that the kids dropped playing LEGO Marvel. Honestly, it was a gift from the heavens and I absolutely will buy at least two on Day 1 because Valve hardware is always fucking great.
On mine (ca. 2016) all the rubber has degraded to a slimy goo.

I really liked it but it doesn't work as a controller on Android devices so it went for long periods of no use.

My Xbox Series X|S controllers however all have stick drift even though they're much newer

Still using my Steam Controller every day, with two in reserve. By far my favorite gaming controller, simply because of those touchpads. I play a lot of turn-based strategy and doing it from the couch is sublime.

If Steam Controller 2 has touchpads and does something better than SC1, I'm probably in (dependent on pricing).

ILL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING STOCK

Next up please make a Steam Box. I just want a PS5/XSX equivalent with SteamOS.

And because I know people will say build a PC: No, I want a pre build smallish box with kinda certified hardware so I don’t have to worry about compatibility, cooling, drivers and all that stuff.

Or release a SteamOS image so I can install it on my gaming rig.
- You can just use any Linux distro and start steam in big screen mode, I think steamOs is available but a bit too customized for the deck
- Until then Bazzite seems to be what you're looking for. Although any other Linux Distribution should work as well. I put OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on my Deck to have more customisation options.
You have it - it’s the Steam Deck.
- Fair enough. You can just dock it to a tv, like switch.
  
  But a console like box without the constraints the Deck has (thermals, power usage, size, weight, needing a screen) would still be a valid product offering.
  
  I personally don’t like mobile gaming, but I do like a console experience.
I run steam deck with a dock but it's closer to a switch than ps5 I guess. For what I play on a 1080 tv, with Elden ring being my heaviest title, it works perfectly.

I can see how a steam box that would deliver 4k on high end games would be awesome as well.
That's a Steam Machine. The idea didn't take off because it's just a pre-built PC (and because they trusted other companies to do it for them). It's a highly competitive market with very low margins.

When they announced the Deck they did recommend one particular small box as a development machine as it matched the Deck's performance very closely. You might try looking for that. Although by now there are probably more powerful ones available for the same price.
As someone who has several mini PCs with HoloISO, I totally hope they put out an official box because I'll replace all of mine. I'll repurpose one of my current ones into something fun and give the others to some local nerd who wants to do nerd shit.
I would commit some unspeakable acts if it meant Valve released a revised Steam Machine
I agree. It would also be nice to use as a pc ala the mac mini.

C'mon valve my wallet's so heavy

Fuck yeah I don't care how bad it is I'll take six

Some functionality that keeps me using the Steam Controller has been touchpads for movement, quick gadget swapping with touchpads, quick 180s/gyro activation with touchpads.

I use it to play games like Doom Eternal, Left 4 Dead 2, Spin Rhythm XD, The Finals, etc.

Sadly I don't find myself doing the same on the Steam Deck opting for the joysticks instead, since I don't find the placement, smaller size, square versus circle, and flat surface versus concave offering the type of consistency that I use the touchpads for on the Steam Controller. It feels more a touchpad appropriate for slow paced games or just desktop navigation than optimal for the way I use the touchpads on the Steam Controller. And I don't see Valve delivering on the touchpad end that I would like with the next Steam Controller with all the inputs it would be fitting in.

I hope it has 2 pads and 2 sticks, like the deck! The only think I didn't like about the original was having to use the right pad instead of a stick.

Once you switch the stick to a DPad and use both touchpad it really opens up

Fingers crossed for Joystick #2

Hope for Hall Effect joystick

Sweeeet

Duuuude
- Sweet!
- What does mine say!?

Mine two steam controllers are still used almost daily, but they are showing there age in wear and tear.

So please be as great as version 1. I need two new ones

I hope the build quality is better on this one. My old one got worn out relatively quickly.

Probably just got a bad one tbh, I've had mine since 2015 and my wife still uses it almost every day (primarily for stardew valley) with zero issues. I sometimes use it on weekends so I know there's still no issues with it
- I was using it for Hollow Knight and sometimes Warframe so I might have been a little more intense with it. I think the issue was with the grip buttons.

The Next Steam Controller will release together with Half-Life 3 and Team Fortress 3 (This time with anticheat)

Is that before or after Left 4 Dead 3?
- Don’t forget about Portal 3.

I hope the rubber or whatever on the sticks doesn’t turn gross & sticky with time like the original.

Ive been waiting for the next version of their vr. if it works with glasses almost a guarantee buy for me.

LET'S. FUCKING. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

moar touchpads!!!

Yaaaaas! I'll take 2!

yaaay, i hope so

I'm reading all the love for the original Steam controller; I didn't get it. Maybe it's because I'm a heavy dpad user, but I had one and sold it off reasonably quickly.

Here's hoping the follow-up works better for me; the Deck is fantastic!

Hell yeah

As long as the scalpers don't take em all... still pissed they ran out of their final sale of $5 steam controllers. All the time hoping that Steam would come out with a next generation.

Wish they'd do another run of the OG Steam Controller. I love it, but finding replacements is a costly business these days. Can't even send it in for repair because they don't produce the parts anymore.

Please make it feel less cheap than all your other creaky plastic stuff, Valve

And yet, my Steam Controller has outlasted 2 Dual Shocks
- Happy for you