Trump win means ‘time has come’ to annex parts of West Bank, Israeli minister says
Trump win means ‘time has come’ to annex parts of West Bank, Israeli minister says
Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich welcomed President-elect Donald Trump’s electoral victory Monday, saying that “the time has come” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.
He made the comment a day after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a recorded statement that he has spoken three times with Trump since the election and that they “see eye to eye on the Iranian threat.
Lol Hope all these people didnt vote for Harris based on Gaza really regret their decision now. They were warned
Please show me where Biden once stopped settlements. They massively expanded under his term. Netanyahu announced settlements in front of him (widely seen as an insult since it contradicted what he had just said to the press) and he did nothing. Obama actually tried to pressure Netanyahu and Biden is the one who undermined him on it during his administration.
Why are you blaming the victims? Biden was told for over a year that this was a problem for his voters (in addition for the prior 3 years of his term). The primary results showed him this with anll the uncommitted votes and he stubbornly refused to change his message or policy once. At what point can you finally accept he deserves blame?
"Parts" doing so much lifting here it broke like Trump's legs going down a tiny ramp.
Palestinians Saved ❎
Climate Action Taken ❎
Women's reproductive freedom secured ❎
Sensible immigration reform ❎
Sense of smugness achieved ✅
Are you describing Joe Biden's victory in 2020?
OHHHH GOOD ONE DUDE
It is kinda the campaign’s job to make it easier for people to vote for someone. Harris's campaign didn’t really make it easier for anyone. On the contrary, it alienated so many people on so many grounds. But keep blaming the voters, it will work in four years for sure.
What a shocker! Who could have predicted this?
Holy shit!
Hang on. I can't find my Pikachu shocked face. I must have left it at the other article where the Republicans said they lied about Project 2025.
We should start making bets about this
So all you "But Gaza!" people......how'd that work out for you?
This may just be an observation from across the pond, but it feels like the But Gaza people were nothing but a troll farm and y'all got played.
Man, this whole situation is all kinds of fucked.
It's mostly true. Someone was tracking those accounts and nearly all of them stopped posting entirely immediately after the election. Either very dedicated, or astroturfing.
The Harris campaign made the decision to not break from Biden on Israel, at the cost of a +6 points gain. That's the fault of the campaign's calculations to ignore those voters, take them for granted, and instead run to the right with Liz Cheney and having the most lethal Military.
I voted for Harris and told others to do the same. It's still on the campaign. Blaming voters is just sowing division when we need unity and solidarity to fight against Fascism.
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Our first matchup tested a Democrat and a Republican who “both agree with Israel’s current approach to the conflict in Gaza”. In this case, the generic candidates tied 44–44. The second matchup saw the same Republican facing a Democrat supporting “an immediate ceasefire and a halt of military aid and arms sales to Israel”. Interestingly, the Democrat led 49–43, with Independents and 2020 non-voters driving the bulk of this shift.
- Split Ticket (July 2024)
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In Pennsylvania, 34% of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if the nominee vowed to withhold weapons to Israel, compared to 7% who said they would be less likely. The rest said it would make no difference. In Arizona, 35% said they’d be more likely, while 5% would be less likely. And in Georgia, 39% said they’d be more likely, also compared to 5% who would be less likely.
- New Poll Suggests Gaza Ceasefire and Arms Embargo Would Help Dems with Swing State Voters (Full YouGov Report) (May 2024)
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- Data For Progress Poll (May 2024)
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Majorities of Democrats (67%) and Independents (55%) believe the US should either end support for Israel’s war effort or make that support conditional on a ceasefire. Only 8% of Democrats but 42% of Republicans think the US must support Israel unconditionally.
Republicans and Independents most often point to immigration as one of Biden’s top foreign policy failures. Democrats most often select the US response to the war in Gaza.
You're right that they really messed up here
Thank you! All these people out here trying to start shit with people protesting a genocide when the Dems just had to take the easiest moral high ground known to man, opposing a genocide. And despite all numbers telling them "this will win you the election" they decided nah, cause we'd rather the Republicans win than even imagine opposing Israel.
Yell louder about how you don't think Palestinians deserve to exist
Why are you so quick to attack the people openly protesting a genocide instead of the party that lost the election because they refused to openly protest a genocide?
Because the people openly protesting a genocide opted for the man who promised to genocide harder.. But hey, keep playing yourselves. Let me know how that works out for you.
we're about to see something really shocking and ugly aren't we. more so than usual I mean
No, I've been told a Trump victory couldn't make anything worse for Palestine. This should just be status quo stuff here.
I mean it is the status quo. Israel's current move will only make the "facts on the ground" official.
Yup.
Good work Pro-Palestinian voters, you screwed your own people.
By the way, the US military will most likely gear up for a war against Iran. Yep, orders from Riyadh and Tel Aviv for another 20 year shit hitting the fan adventure doomed to fail.
I like how everybody is mad at pro Palestinian voters.
Another reminder Joe Biden is still president and Kamala Harris is vice president
I am a pro-Palestine voter.
I voted for Harris because I'm not a fucking idiot.
I like how not voting against an obvious fascist is pro Palestine.
Another reminder that fascists embolden fascists. Putin is one. Netanyahu is one. Trump is one. Vance is one. Musk is one.
Thank you, I hope someone will tell Joe and Kamala.
Edit: looks like I was not clear: I meant that, as they are still in power, they should use their leftover power to fix this problem as well as they can.
Frankly if they're doing anything with their remaining days, I hope they're shoring up America's defenses. I cared about Palestine enough to vote for the candidate Netanyahu didn't want in office, but now that y'all elected him, I care more about anything that can be done to help my country before he's in to rape it.
Dear everyone who refused to vote: I hope you're happy! Really helping out the Israel-Palestine situation right now. You did this. Look at your crime against humanity and despair.
Dear Harris: You could have singlehandedly prevented this.
I'm playing both sides, so that I always come out on top.
Take your bow protest voters… we fucking told you this would happen.
This is ALL on you.
But... We warned the Genocide Joe crowd Trump would be worse? And actively tried to convince them not to to let it happen?
Like, we said the stove was hot a bunch of times and they just had to touch it. I'm gonna call those people stupid now.
To be clear, I don't think this group of people was big enough to sway the election.
the last 80 years has been the slow elimination and annexation of palestine
it really doesn't matter which pro-Israeli US presidential candidate serves for the next 4
And those protest votes told the campaign this would happen and they didn't alter course. At what point is it the fault of the playmakers?
Protest votes knew the score. Slow genocide with Kamala, fast genocide with trump. And they put it on the line to say "either no genocide or you lose" and the Dems couldn't say that.
Think about that. The Democrats were very clearly told via the uncommitted movement that "if you support genocide, you will lose" and the Dems could not, under literal threat of death, say they won't support a genocide in Israel.
Like, I voted Kamala as a hopeful lesser of two evils vote. But seeing people like you come out here and throw the genocide of palastinians in the face of those who care the most about it because your party didn't do what it knew it had to do is fucking disgusting.
Actually abhorrent. Hold the leadership accountable. Hold Kamala accountable. They ran the god damn election. They wrote the god damn plan, and never in my life have I seen an electorate communicate it's demands so clearly and directly. They were ignored, so they ignored the Dems.
Wheres your fucking spine? Why is it so hard for you to criticize your own party, concrete people with positions in this shit making decisions rather than the vague "protest voter"
Because we voted to stop trump. That’s how it works, and that is what they failed to understand in the months leading up to the election:
Our votes were cast to stand in his way. Their decision to do nothing, let him walk right past us all.
This is on the protest voters/third party voters and there is no other way to see it.
Honey, why is there a leopard at the door?
AMA request: Anyone who voted for Jill Stein or Trump because Kamala wasn't hard enough on Israel.
In theory it was mostly people not voting for Harris (or anyone). In most cases here, anyway. Supposedly.
Well that would be one way of ending the war on day one.
ITT: "How could third party voters do this? I have learned nothing."
Gosh. This is my shocked face.
"We did it Patrick, we saved Palestine!"
Disgusting to blame the people who wouldn't vote for the party that refused to say they would stop the genocide. How about you blame Kamala Harris and the DNC for never saying they would do anything about it? At which point is it the fault of the shot callers? What you unwittingly are saying is "the Dems could of won by promising to stop genocide in Palestine and they couldn't do it"
That says a lot more about them than it does the protest voters.
I say this as someone who voted Kamala as a conscious lesser of two evils. I cannot blame anyone who decided they couldn't vote for a slower genocide
Absolutely disgusting to not vote Harris to stop this from happening.
Disgusting.
Morally repugnant.
You were warned. You knew what would happen.
You wouldn't even cast a vote to save a single Palestinian life and you're trying to claim some sort of fake moral high ground. This is on you. You are complicit in Trump's victory and all the horrible shit that's coming, because you knew what the stakes were and you thought it was more important to "teach the Democrats a lesson" than to lift a finger for the people of Gaza, of the West Bank, of Lebanon, of Ukraine, women, LGBTQ+ folk and basically anyone who isn't a millionaire.
You gave them all a massive fuck you because for some insane reason you thought that letting the genocidal maniac win would teach the Democrats that you can't win whilst arming genocide. Great logic there.
Genocide. He means genocide. The Democrats decided the US voters would do as they demanded, forgetting that despite being an empire, we are in fact an Empirical Republic. Meaning we still vote in our emperor. The voters didn't care that kamala put innocent citizens in prison for marijuana use, 66+ million still voted for her. 70+ million didn't care that trump is a traitor to the republic on multiple fronts. They are ruling over a decaying empire with barbarians running through the halls of Congress all while pretending the party will never stop. The party already stopped, they just have enough resources to keep it looking like everything is exactly as it should be. Forget that California burns down annually, forget that the south becomes a disaster area after hurricane season, forget those strangers working full time jobs that are still homeless, forget your Democratic Republic, that's the message of both Republican's AND Democrats. Curious to see how "Covid: Part Deux The Electric Infection pans out."
What is it you were expecting or hoping for? Because this just reads like someone forgot to take their pills. It was always going to be Kamala or Trump. It doesn't matter if neither one made you happy. If you thought otherwise, you didn't think it through.
We had a really simple choice between two people. We made it. Unless you voted for Kamala, this is the outcome you allowed to happen.
At least you guys picked Trump instead lmao
what the fuck do you expect me to do? I can only realistically vote and protest and vote with my dollar. I'm doing all of those already.