You're forgetting the part where on her deathbed, she doesn't think about her husband she spent decades with, or her children, or her family at all. She thinks about a random homeless guy she fucked as a rebellious teen.
I remember thinking she had dropped it on accident and felt bad for her when I first saw it as a kid. She made a little "oh!" with a look of what I thought was surprise
At the time titanic came out, romcoms really hit peak it seems. And i watched a bunch of them. Being 14, i had no idea about life in general, and always assumed people get married some time after the movie ends and they found each other. In most movies it's fucking ridiculous. You watch two people fall in love who realistically talked to each other for an hour in real time.
If you watch Titanic in reverse it's about a sad lady floating on a door who idly fishes a cute boy out of the ocean and brings him onto a big fancy steamship that has conveniently sprouted up over by an iceberg, where they have steamy no-strings vacation sex until they split up because they each find new boyfriends on the ship they'd rather go to Europe with.
Only if they both had the knowledge and frame of mind to engi her flotation devices from the life vest rose was wearing. Otherwise the door would have sunk enough for them to freeze to death before rescue came. Provides they knew rescue was coming after a certain time.
Considering one was a socialite, and the other a freelance artist, and both had just almost been killed multiple times... no, I don't think they would have had the foresight to come up with the exact scenario that would have saved them both.
Cameron tested this. There was room for both on the door, but only in a very specific orientation could they both stay dry. And because she was wearing more clothes than he was, even if Jack makes it out of the water, he's still hypothermic and won't survive.
Edit: It's a NatGeo doc called "Titanic: 25 years later." They're in a pool that's 56 degrees F. You can find it on streaming someplace, but here's a clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJph0aIP-U
I saw that movie with my dad, who spent years reading about the Titanic because he took an interest in it for some reason.
I'm not sure which one of us hated that movie more.
I'm glad that people are looking back on it these days and realizing it was just not a good movie.
If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won't have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn't have a stupid as fuck plot.
If you want to see a good Titanic movie, check out A Night to Remember, made in the UK in 1958. Sure, it won’t have the dazzling special effects. It also doesn’t have a stupid as fuck plot.
Did it have a dude bouncing off a propeller while emitting the Wilhelm Scream? I didn't think so.
That, and I have a memory of my father saying something along the lines of, "why were we supposed to care about those two fictional people when there were real people on the Titanic?" I do not disagree.
If you take out the Jack/Rose love story and add some of the Californian's scenes and a bit in the wireless room, you could edit Cameron's Titanic down to a pretty good remake of A Night to Remember. He was clearly influenced by it, some scenes are lifted straight from the ANtR narrative even though they are known to be inaccurate (Andrews in the first class smoking room, Smith on the bridge as the ship goes down come to mind).
I like the Cameron Titanic, actually. The love story notwithstanding, it's well worth watching for his attention to detail. The reconstruction of the ship was meticulous, and with a few notable exceptions for dramatic license, the account of the sinking is quite accurate (for the information we had at the time - we now know the breakup is incorrect, but at the time it was the best theory) and contains quite a few easter eggs for Titanic nerds. (like me)
That said... I love A Night to Remember and watch it every year on the anniversary of the sinking. The book is well worth reading, too. Walter Lord assembled his narrative based on correspondence with as many survivors as he could reach - often verbatim as they told it, and it's really a riveting read.
Funny, I recommended A Night to Remember elsewhere in this post as a far better film.
Anyway, I agree with you on the detail. It was very impressive. I just won't sit through the film to watch it when I can watch A Night to Remember, even if they didn't know certain details, like the ship splitting in half.
True, but I was not a nerd on the topic. I just thought it was stupid to shoehorn a boring forbidden love subplot into a movie about the most famous fucking ship sinking of all time as if that alone wasn't dramatic enough.
If Jack had survived, they would never have worked anyways. You can't just pick up a homeless guy and make him your husband in high society, and she never would have survived being poor with him. They would have just ended up fat and old together, living in a shitty tenement building, eating boiled cabbages and yelling at each other while their 20 kids run around the ones bedroom apartment
It's kind of a braindead meme that people use who think they are smarter than they actually are. You can fit an elephant on a door, that doesn't mean it has enough buoyancy to carry it.
It's like that reddit thing where people said that in karate kid, daniel is actually the bad guy and the villain of the movie is the good guy, because they saw a video of a guy who took clips out of context. Okay so you're an expert now on a movie that you clearly haven't seen.
I think it's also people remembering the visual and not the dialogue. They remember it happening but don't remember Jack trying to get on and it starting to sink. So when they see memes about it they're like "yeah wtf was up with that!"
Even if the door could technically hold them both, Jack didn't want to risk Rose's safety by trying to climb on and weighing it down more. Dude was fucked regardless I think, skinny little guy in the icy water, forget it. Maybe if Jack had been played by Jack black, his thick body would have protected him
The movie Titanic by James Cameron. It was very highly regarded, but the plot is a woman in her deathbed recounting how she is spending her final moments thinking about a random homeless dude she fucked as a teen and then let drown, instead of her children or husband or...literally anything else.