Say the line

It can be both! And a problem with bullying in schools. And lack of ways to escape poverty. But having any changes that affect any of those things is verboten to the places where land gets more of a vote than people in cities do.

It's not even a mental health issue either, ultimately! The traumas that result in mental health issues themselves have a cause, which tends to boil down to systemic inequity of some form or another. And our rulers not only have fuck-all interest in fixing that, but also a vested interest in actively perpetuating it.

I definitely feel some kind of way about this because dead children seems to be the primary issue from an outside perspective and ending easy access to weapons would be the single most effective way to fix that.

but without proper mental healthcare these people will then just have a knife party and take slightly less people with them ... so there's also that.

Education is everything, that's why they love to go after it. They don't want free thinkers but indoctrinated clones of themselves.

Unfortunately it did work out better than others, and yet two teachers and two 14 year old children were killed.

The FBI had been out to see the 14yr old who murdered classmates and teachers. Spoken with his parents, and him. He denied everything, no probable cause, so they put the schools on alert, and that made for a quicker response.

Which means this went really well by comparison to other school shootings, and yet it clearly wasn't good enough - two 14 year old students and two teachera died.

4 victims is the minimum for it to count as a "mass shooting" by the FBI, which seems like both too many and not enough at the same time.

Yeah I was watching something on TV and they cut to a special news report to cover this. I was shocked. Isn’t there a school shooting pretty much every day now? Why did this warrant cutting into valuable day time TV programming? So I’m watching this breaking news wondering what’s so special about this particular shooting that can’t wait until the nightly news at 10:00, and the local police chief is giving a press conference breaking down in tears about how he never thought he would have to handle a school shooting and I’m like has your dimbass been paying attention to anything that’s been going on in this country for the last few decades? I would expect you to have a manual on your desk with procedures on how to handle this. Instead this yokel is rambling on about good and evil. I just smh.

Once people think it's normal then that becomes a culture. That is even harder to remove.

Oh that explains it

Many of us have the same question. Typically, when these questions are bought to our elected officials, we get something along the lines of "Thoughts and prayers."

Damn someone should start keeping track

Oh wait

And this one hasn't even recorded Maryland yet

Regarding the news cycle. Yes! Stop the 24 hour, constant fear being fed to the populace.

You are remarkably safe in your own home. Get rid of the fear mongering!

Stop making national news of local issues. The constant national attention to some random horrible things that doesn't affect 99.99% of the viewership doesn't need to be highlighted.

I'm not against gun laws, but I'm going to disagree with your minimums. Anything regarding storage is essentially unenforceable until after a tragedy has occurred. It can't be used to preempt a shooting but only to punish the owners afterwards. Those sort of things need to be community driven. The gun community should be talking about storage more and shaming those that don't follow it.

It also implies that everyone's situation at home allows them 1) to purchase two safes and 2) to have room for two safes and 3) limits their ownership of either guns or ammo to the size of that safe. It also doesn't make much sense to have two safes if the person doing the shooting is the one that is buying the ammo and guns in the first place. It also places undue burdens on those that do not have children and do not have children that come into their home.

As much as it is laughed at in California, but when you buy a gun you either need to bring a lock or buy a lock with it. They are the cheapest things, but it's at least a minimum safety that isn't onerous. Even if no one uses them once they get the gun home.

As for operating under a license, what would that do beyond the existing restrictions for procuring firearms? Do they expire and what would happen then?

We need comprehensive laws grounded in addressing specific issues, not something to create an idealistic and narrow view of what gun ownership is or should be.

I think we should have federal programs on gun information and educational programs. We can teach people and build a culture on gun safety and storage. Maybe programs to subsidize the purchasing of safes and reimburse or reward owners that make safe choices.

They should just make all guns voice activated and fire only one round at a time. And the shooter has to yell "Avada Kedavra".

Fear of losing basic income is a great crime deterrent.

Are you going to steal from that gas station if you could lose your basic monthly check for 20+ years?

You think kids would drive drunk if you told them that if they were caught, they would lose their basic income for life? Most think it's a slap on the wrist, maybe some community service, IF they get caught.

That's along the lines of what I was thinking. Making care more available is good but still having to get financially destroyed for it potentially isn't a great incentive to use services

To "solve" gun violence, yea. But to significantly reduce it, we only need to make progress.

I don't think anyone is saying that those need to be solved before we can attempt to solve gun violence.

But there is a definite mental health crisis in the USA, and that's certainly not helping our gun violence issue.

That and abject, perpetual, and generational poverty.

And I'm sure the latter contributes to the former.

I never said there was "no way to prevent this" I'm saying there is a fucking shitload we need to do to prevent this and gun control, in whatever form it takes is going to be only a piece of the puzzle.

And no shit, does getting rid of guns get rid of guns violence. You aren't spouting something revolutionary.

I'm not even against gun control. I'm against the knee jerk reactionary bullshit and narrow viewpoint of anti-gun individuals that don't want to engage in any serious discussion of HOW to enact gun control other than take away guns.

I'm not a gun nut, and that's just a rude thing to say. It's divisive, insulting, and worst of all, it means you've already made an opinion and written off anything that I may say.

The Onion's joke lacks the emotional punch of a fill in the blank sheet for mass shootings.

A fill in the blank that was published 9 years ago. The joke has the emotional punch because of how common mass shooting have become and the pattern that follows the shootings.

Alright I finally had time to sit down and do it, and I realized in my earlier haste I made a few mistakes. Here it is corrected and madlibbed out in all its glory:

Hell, USA — Up to 69 people were killed and _another 420 more injured after a gunman opened fire at a Pepperidge Farm.

There were conflicting reports about casualties, but Booger from Weiner County Sheriff Department said the number is at 69.

“I heard a popping sound and screaming,” said Scooby Doo, a Fart at the Pepperidge Farm. “And that’s when we all got down. There was Butts everywhere.”

The shooter’s motive was reported to be His penis fell off.

Citizens of Weiner were Angry and Horny to hear that something like this could happen in their community.

President Dog Poo and Governor Balls had their  Lunch and Snakes with the victims and their families.

Omg, this! Plus, if the cancer threatens to take over, we gonna need them guns to fight the cancer. #FlawlessLogic

Well, I'm sorry, please don't shoot me?