What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?
What can a city do when neo-Nazis start marching down its streets?
The brazen appearance of white supremacist groups in Nashville left the city grappling with how to confront hateful speech without violating First Amendment protections.
The brazen appearance of white supremacist groups in Nashville left the city grappling with how to confront hateful speech without violating First Amendment protections.
They first arrived at the beginning of July: dozens of masked white supremacists, shuffling out of U-Hauls, to march through Nashville carrying upside-down American flags.
A week later, members of a separate neo-Nazi group, waving giant black flags with red swastikas, paraded along the city’s famed strip of honky-tonks and celebrity-owned bars. The neo-Nazis poured into the historic Metro courthouse to disrupt a City Council meeting, harassed descendants of Holocaust survivors and yelled racist slurs at young Black children performing on a downtown street.
The appearance of white nationalists on the streets of a major American city laid bare the growing brazenness of the two groups, the Patriot Front and the Goyim Defense League. Their provocations enraged and alarmed civic leaders and residents in Nashville, causing the city to grapple with how to confront the groups without violating free speech protections.
Make the world a better place
Punch a Nazi in the face
I need that on a t-shirt
My ex worked at a local screen printing shop, and I hung out there a lot and made some cash during big orders. I went to the owner with a simple "punch more nazis" design I made stoned, half jokingly asked him to burn the design so my ex could print it for me.
It was the business version of that genie "thats dope you still have 3 wishes" meme - "yea I'll burn it in the morning you know where the extras (leftover unused shirts) are 🤷♂️"
We never got along super well but we knew where we agreed lmao
The brazen appearance of white supremacist groups in Nashville left the city grappling with how to confront hateful speech without violating First Amendment protections.
The neo-Nazis poured into the historic Metro courthouse to disrupt a City Council meeting,
Arrest. Them. Holy shit, that's something that in any reasonably sized city would be worth at least a night in jail to cool off, even if you were some fucking normie instead of a neonazi fuck. It's not that fucking hard.
Arrest them for what exactly? Is disrupting a city council meeting anything but a civil infraction?
I don't want this sort of thing going on, but what law would justify jail time?
I mean maybe they did do something to justify it, but I don't know that disrupting a city council meeting should land people in jail. People also disrupt city council meetings when they try to pass anti-queer ordinances. And they should.
Civil disobedience can get you arrested, and while you might beat the rap, you can't beat the ride.
Both you and @[email protected] are arguing the same point. The only difference is @[email protected] wants nobody arrested and you want to also arrest the Nazis.
First of all ACAB let it be known. However I think it's more likely to get a local city council to allow for anyone using intimidating imagery, (defined by swastika and similar iconography) to be detained and removed from chambers. It's been done elsewhere with great effect.
The issue is how to get it enforced because unfortunately, those that burn crosses are the same that join forces.
https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/54960/public-display-of-swastika-in-the-us
Treat them like our American predecessors did. If they're wearing swastikas then shoot the fuckers.
Sounds right to me. Nazis invaded Europe, tried to take over the world, and slaughtered millions in gas chambers. The US military should be deployed to arrest or neutralize Nazis whenever they appear.
For starters, it can not arrest the bartender that punched a nazi after that nazi started a fight.
My dude didn't deserve to be arrested, he deserved to drink for free throughout Lower Broadway!
Yeah, I don't give a flying fuck about a Nazi's First Amendment rights, just like they don't give a flying fuck about anyone else's rights.
Jake and Elwood knew how to handle it.
Arrest them for an unlawful assembly like they do to everyone else they don't want marching.
No, that's only for black people and Muslims. "Unlawful" assembly for neo-nazis is just met with a shrug.
How would the pigs marching there arrest themselves?
Gather up all of your neighbors and go punch some Nazi trash.
The greatest generation knew how to deal with Nazis. Flamethrowers, bombs, artillery & bayonets. That's all the conversation needed.
No, no, you see, war is bad, therefore, we should take the high road and let the Nazis slaughter us while we lodge diplomatic complaints at the UN in the hope of getting them to stop, eventually, someday. /s
Point.
Laugh.
Call them "weird".
Make them realize how unpopular they really are.
Briefly, then go all out ignoring them
Turn on the sprinklers.
Laugh at and ridicule them. Make it very clear that you aren't scared of them and that they're rejects of society who amount to nothing. Take away their sense of power and they'll leave. It's worked in the past on several occasions.
“Take off your mask and pose for a picture, coward.”
Remind them that they are cowards again and again.
Why are you asking questions the mods won't let me answer?
Ikr? Killing Nazis cannot be discussed? I’m pretty sure that’s 100% okay, and a global pastime. My comment was removed for saying it. 🤷♂️
That's what happens when ya let neoliberals run things.
its only okay to defend yourself against Nazism AFTER they've spread propaganda, recruited, trained, and started putting people in camps.
I really hoped things would be better when we left reddit.
There was a Nazi rally/anti-protest in my city like a year or so ago and all the LGBTQ+ people (including my sister and I) showed up to protest their bullshit with 3 times as many people and shut that shit down hard.
But it still pisses me off the city allowed those pricks to even gather in the first place.
But it still pisses me off the city allowed those pricks to even gather in the first place.
First Amendment basically means the government can't bar people from rallying or protesting based on what beliefs they are doing so in the name of. Same reason why there are no hate speech laws, and why basically the only expression that is inherently criminal is expression that requires doing another crime to create (think child pornography, as you can't make it without sexually abusing children).
In 1943-45, you just shot them.
I vote snipers.
Aim for the hoods.
This is why I don't get to run a town, but I stand by my opinion here.
This is why I don't get to run a town
Have you tried making your own city, ala BioShock? Doesn't have to be under water. Though it might help.
Counterprotest.
Exactly, I can't for the life of me imagine that these clowns are in the majority in any major city.
How do you do that, when they protest illegally? They go in without permits in u-hauls and just create chaos out of nowhere. It's planned, but not in the public eye.
Then it's not a question of free speech, I suppose. I'm not from the US, but I assume that demonstrations have to be registered in your country too. If this is the case, the police can easily crack down, break up these illegal gatherings, impose fines and so on. I am of course aware that there are sympathizers among the police - but they have to abide by the law if they want to keep their jobs. I don't understand why there is any need for a discussion about freedom of expression at all when these demonstrators just disrupt public order and try to intimidate people. That has nothing to do with freedom of speech - sound more like a felony to me.
Reload when it goes "click".
They are being disruptive in a way that isn't kind; arrests would be the best way to deal with them. They are white nationalists, shouting slurs at black people who are fellow citizens in the USA, we should not let them believe this behavior will go unpunished. It will make it worse in the future, enabling hate groups to thrive is something a sane country should never allow.
This is a good start: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r_UP_EiXwKA
May I also suggest setting up rotten vegetable stands at the farmer's markets?
Beat the ever loving shit out of them. Remember, you didn't see anything.
turn a blind eye to the black bloc stalking them
There are several amendments for that
lol. My comment about killing Nazis got removed by these right-wing mods
Ah yes, when harassing holocaust descendants on the street is protected under free speech but a drag show in a closed building is not...
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