Internet Archive is in danger

Yeah. The monsters gnawing away at nature, public infrastructure, your friends? They are called corporations.
Btw, megacorps have multiple faces and are especially hungry.

i guess it doesnt matter to the execs, they will always have their little islands to live on while they destroy the rest of the world

And yet by law in some places (the US being one, I believe) they are treated as people, with certain rights.

Agreed, now what do we do about it?

I quit a very very well paid IT job in a very big corp because I did not want to participate to their anti-human, anti-planet shit...

What are you doing about it?

I agree that that is the capitalist way, which is one of the reasons I hate capitalism. I'm no tankie, but I believe there are other ways, even ways that still use personal property as well as currency, beyond capitalism, which is just the use of personal property and currency to obtain more personal property and currency at all costs in an endless cycle.

What is the IPFS?

i2p integration would be awesome

the corporations dont care. why should the archive be under the pressure of the soulless suits at all? any "stunts" are just excuses for doing what they will do anyway: pick on anyone who doesnt bow to their petty whims.

no, saying that this is the archive's fault is so gross, and just says that you accept their bullying and blackmail as somehow moral

archive should decentralize, that's the only real solution imo

Yeah, as soon as I read about that I realized that they fucked up.

It was increadibly irresponsible by them at their current legal status.

they tied meat to themselves and ran at the bear screaming

Does voting for a party like that even help anything? I'm asking because my voting experience is US, and everyone knows how many parties matter here. So I'm curious.

Lol, a petition won't stop this unless it's a petition to bribe the judge. The US is owned by corporations.

Except it's not a threat to the future of all libraries, it's a threat to the future of "libraries" that decide to completely ignore copyright and give out an unlimited number of copies of ebooks. Basically turning themselves into book-focused piracy sites.

I'm incredibly frustrated with Internet Archive for bringing this on themselves. It is not their mandate to fight copyright, that's something better left in the hands of activist organizations like the EFF. The Internet Archive's mandate is to archive the Internet, to store and preserve knowledge. Distributing it is secondary to that goal. And picking unnecessary fights with big publishing houses like this is directly contrary to that goal, since now the Internet Archive is in danger.

It's like they're carrying around a precious baby and they decided it was a good idea to start whacking a bear with a stick. Now the bear is eating their leg and they're screaming "oh my god help me, the bear is threatening this baby!" Well yeah, but you shouldn't have brought a baby with you when you went on a bear-whacking expedition. You should have known exactly what that bear was going to do.

Fuck yes, we need to get our hands on this stuff for fucks sake. I have shit there I don’t even know I need yet

Can someone fucking near get their ass there and do a legendary copy paste operation on a massive scale

Exactly. Losing Internet and digital history would create another dark ages for future historians. Everything we've done would just be gone.

If I had more money than humanly usable I would create a project that transcribes wikipedia or whatever onto stone/metal plates so it's not forgotten.

Assuming the entire US court system isn't in the corporate pocket

I love your optimism

Their argument towards fair use wasn’t ignored. It was inapplicable.

It's ridiculous to assume that an organization whose main purpose is data archival would knowingly and blatantly ignore copyright law

Except that’s exactly what they did. They knowingly and blatantly violated copyright law. They had a system in place to ensure fair use compliance. They intentionally disabled that system, in violation of fair use, to allow unlimited free downloads of the books they had archived.

IA’s entire argument was basically “but we’re a library” and totally missed the part where even public libraries need to comply with copyright law. Even with ebooks, they can’t simply distribute an unlimited number of copies; They have licensing agreements in place, for a specific number of specific ebooks to be checked out at any one time. And they have to use time-locked DRM to ensure compliance, by automatically revoking users’ reading ability when their check-out time is up. IA did precisely none of that.

In this case, they absolutely did. They had a CDL in place specifically to comply with copyright law, and they willfully and intentionally disabled it.

The publishers also had arrangements with local libraries to expand their ebook selections. Most libraries have ebook and audiobook deals worked out with the publishers, and those were expanded during the lockdowns. Many of the partner libraries preferred those systems to the CDL because they served their citizens directly. A small town in Nebraska didn't have to worry about having a wait list of 3000 people ahead of the local citizen whose taxes had actually bought the license the Internet Archive wanted to borrow.

The Internet Archive held a press conference right before the ruling comparing the National Emergency Library to winter-library lands, but that's simply not accurate. The CDL they had in place before and after was inter-library loaning. The CDL was like setting up printing presses in the library and copying books for free and handing them out to anyone.

Under the existing CDL, they could have verified that partner libraries had stopped lending their phycical copies of the books and made more copies of the ebooks available for checkout instead of just making it unlimited and they'd have legally been fine, but they did not, and the publishers had every right to sue.

The publishes also waited until June to file suit: well-after most places had been re-opened for weeks.

IA does important work, but they absolutely broke the law here, and since they did it by intentionally removing the systems designed to ensure legitimate archival status and fair-use of copywritten works, they have pretty much zero defense. It wasn't a mistake or an oversight. And after reopening they kept doing it for weeks until they were sued and were able to magically restore the legal system the same day the lawsuit was filed.

That worked for pirate bay because they were storing a miniscule amount of actual data. Torrents are really small. The actual data is stored in the peer to peer network. The torrents are just tracking where in the p2p stuff is.

IA isn't like that. They probably store exabytes of data.

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I think this explains his stance a bit https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=rRDEkMAcwrQ I agree with some bits (because code quality does matter more than being nice when it is your profession), disagree with some (because being a grumpy idiot will harm your ability to build on collaborative projects).

PS: but yea, then there is also the video about the tech industry where he cherrypicks outrage and contradicts himself and agrees that Linus is rude and divisive...which sort of discredits him, because he only seems to like angry but competent people when they agree with him.

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The mercenary company Blackgate(?) has done it a dozen times.

Again, I have no idea what I am talking about but you can have provisions to protect assets in bankruptcy. But besides that, I am not sure if distributing the assets to another nonprofit entity prior would help save the archived data

https://www.wolterskluwer.com/en/expert-insights/dissolving-a-nonprofit-when-and-how-to-dissolve-a-nonprofit

I mean, companies with a lot of employees, sure. But companies that are mostly just data, like movie watching sites, do it all the time

I was asking others to downvote low effort content to improve the quality of the content on the platform for others.