And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Prayer In Tongues On Floor Before Abortion Ruling.
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The science on speaking in tongues:
• People don’t tend to use sounds that aren’t in their native language. (citation) So if you’re an English speaker, you’re not going to bust out some Norwegian vowels. This rather lets the air out of the theory that individuals engaged in glossolalia are actually speaking another language. It is more like playing alphabet soup with the sounds you already know. (Although not always all the sounds you know. My instinct is that glossolalia is made up predominately of the sounds that are the most common in the person’s language.)
• It lacks the structure of language. (citation) So one of the core ideas of linguistics, which has been supported again and again by hundreds of years of inquiry, is that there are systems and patterns underlying language use: sentences are usually constructed of some sort of verb-like thing and some sort of noun-like thing or things, and it’s usually something on the verb that tells you when and it’s usually something on the noun that tells you things like who possessed what. But these patterns don’t appear in glossolalia. Plus, of course, there’s not really any meaningful content being transmitted. (In fact, the “language” being unintelligible to others present is one of the markers that’s often used to identify glossolalia.) It may sort of smell like a duck, but it doesn’t have any feathers, won’t quack and when we tried to put it in water it just sort of dissolved, so we’ve come to conclusion that it is no, in fact, a duck.
• It’s associated with a dissociative psychological state. (citation) Basically, this means that speakers are aware of what they’re doing, but don’t really feel like they’re the ones doing it. In glossolalia, the state seems to come and then pass on, leaving speakers relatively psychologically unaffected. Disassociation can be problematic, though; if it’s particularly extreme and long-term it can be characterized as multiple personality disorder.
• It’s a learned behaviour. (citation) Basically, you only see glossolalia in cultures where it’s culturally expected and only in situations where it’s culturally appropriate. In fact, during her fieldwork, Dr. Goodman (see the citation) actually observed new initiates into a religious group being explicitly instructed in how to enter a dissociative state and engage in glossolalia.
Professor of Linguistics William J Samarin concluded:
• While speaking in tongues does appear at first to resemble human language, that was only on the surface.[3]:73, 104, 120-1, 121-127
• The actual stream of speech was not organized and there was no existing relationship between units of speech and concepts.[3]:73, 120, 127, 128
• The speakers might believe it to be a real language, but it was totally meaningless.[3]:121, 127
Anthropologist Felicitas Goodman compared it with rituals from Japan and Indonesia as well as Africa and Borneo and concluded that there was no distinction. It truly is universal and quite easily crosses religious divides.[8]
Very good summary. I've never seen anyone do it outside of YouTube but someone added me to a snake handling church Facebook group for the laughs and they have some videos of them doing it.
I grew up in a branch of the Pentecostal Church (not the snake handlers). Even as a kid I thought it was fucking wild that people did that.
My favorite times were when people were "overcome by the spirit" or whatever and they'd stand up to get attention and speak in tongues (same people every fucking week) and this crazy old woman would stand up and "interpret" what those folks were saying. Listen, Birdie, I'm pretty sure that if there is a god he doesn't speak solely in King James English.
if anyone thinks this is acceptable behavior in any house of legislation, substitute what is happening here with an islamic call to prayer and prayer session.
did your opinion change? why is it okay that christians can do this and no one else?
You won't really get to them that way. They'll retort with something like, "Well, the Pledge of Allegiance says 'One nation under God', not under Allah" and they'll high five and shoot some kids.
why is it okay that christians can do this and no one else?
Because they're the correct ones. Duh. It wouldn't be acceptable for Muslims to do it because it would be bringing demonic forces into our houses of government...
Or something, I dunno, I haven't been a Christian for 20+ years.
Wow. I just had to click on a link on an article to find the video (because why embed... that's crazy talk) to be taken to a tweet that contained a tiktok video.
This experience could only be improved if the tiktok video was a person summarizing a reddit post.
You can tell it's horseshit because if they were actually performing the miracle of Speaking in Tongues that they claim to be you would be able to understand whatever they're babbling about regardless of what language you speak. If they were genuinely doing it you probably shouldn't even be able to tell unless someone who speaks a completely different language comes along and says something like, "Wow, it's crazy that this congregation prays in Swahili," or whatever.
I grew up with two parents who are always engaging in glossolalia. They'll swear black and blue it's a language that connects them with god. To them it's not complete horseshit. But it is.
I certainly thought it had to be just some normal prayer or maybe a Latin chant, but no. Its all of them independently and incoherently muttering to their god while kneeling over the state seal. Separation of church and state is long dead it seems.
Man walks into a psychiatrist office. He tells the doctor he speaks in an unknown dialect to a “god”. Is this person committed to an insane asylum? psychiatric institution? Why or why not??
Considering insane asylums don't exist anymore that would be a no. But yes, they should probably be prescribed a mandatory stay at a psychiatric facility.
In the US, unless he's a real direct threat to themselves or someone else's safety, they would not be detained. People are allowed to be insane as long as they aren't imminently a real direct threat to anyone's safety.
What if they’re running around nude? Or screaming threatening profanities or making offensive gestures? Many other symptoms could accompany psychotic dillusions which would lead to being involuntarily committed
Man, all this speaking in tongues talk lately is giving me PTSD. Next they'll be getting "drunk in the holy spirit".
Every time they pulled this shit at church, I wished my mom would have chosen abortion instead
Sounds more entertaining than growing up Mormon, every week it’s the same wonderbread suburbanites talking about the small quiet warm feeling the Holy Spirit brings. At least the southern baptists know how to get everyone on their feet and dancing around.
Wasn't fun loving, southern Baptist. It was crazy ass non denominational, fire and brimstone, revolations, scaring kids about hell. Kenneth Copeland visits, and the like always went this route.
Nothing entertaining about it. It was scary as fuck! And if I didn't act right, it was paddle board time when we got home
This is the part of the horror movie where you walk in on the weird devil worship sacrificial cult ritual and it clicks as to why they seemed like odd people. Then they spend Act 3 chasing you down to kill you. I guess we are in Act 3.
I'm Christian but I could not give the slightest shit about abortion. I worked for a gyne that performed them and saw the pathology reports all the time. It's literally a little spongy hemorrhagic tissue they are removing. It's such a nothing, and when you see the waiting room full of women you realize that EVERYONE across cultures and religions get abortions. I saw Mennonite women and women in full burqas out there, and Christian women praying on their knees.
Have the procedure and get on with your life. Don't let a few cells get in the way of your plans. It's a decision between you and your doctor and nobody else.
Incidentally I offered on Facebook to mail any American women the abortion pill, and Facebook immediately banned me for 30 days for selling illicit substances. I ended up being interviewed by Vice about it funnily enough.
facebook is pro-fascism. you can tell by how they moderate. don't use fascist-supporting websites. get your friends and family off of them best you can
I'm convinced that everyone who is against abortion believes that all pregnancies never have complications. or are from loving supportive relationships. or are completely wrapped up in their own world they believe they have a right to have a say in everyone's business.
Honestly speaking, he’s just not a good Christian. If he’s condemning the actions of others, while praying in public for attention, he’s not following Jesus.
I don't want to humor the fantasy of "good Christians" since they're all terrible. jesus being good is just marketing. religion claims to be the source of morality but in reality they claim a monopoly over it and arbitrarily designate anyone outside their group as being evil
Having people run around speaking in tongues isn't really something that most Christian denominations do. It's specific to a couple. IIRC the big one is the Pentecostals. Snow Crash had a plot that centered around that, kinda took some digs at the Pentecostal church.
With over 279 million classical Pentecostals worldwide, the movement is growing in many parts of the world, especially the Global South and Third World countries.[10][11][12][13][14]
Christianity (/krɪstʃiˈænɪti/ or /krɪstiˈænɪti/) is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus. It is the world's largest and most widespread religion with roughly 2.4 billion followers, comprising around 31.2% of the world population.
So you're talking about a denomination that's a little over 10% of Christianity. That's not nothing, but it's also not really representative.
The gunfight at the O.K. Corral was a gunfight that lasted less than a minute between lawmen led by Virgil Earp and members of a loosely organized group of outlaws called the Cowboys that occurred at about 3:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, Arizona, United States. It is generally regarded [by whom?] as the most famous gunfight in the history of the American Old West.
Looks like he drinks the blood of newborns doesn't he? Like if I were going to start believing the adenochrome nonsense I'd think he was the biggest culprit.