Joe Biden wins primary election in New Hampshire despite not even being on the ballot
Joe Biden wins primary election in New Hampshire despite not even being on the ballot
His supporters mounted a campaign to write him in on the ballot.
The push to write in Biden on the ballot didn't go completely smoothly. The weekend before New Hampshire's primary, thousands of voters in the state received robocalls that used deep faked audio of the president in an attempt to dissuade them from turning out.
Whatever your thoughts on electoral politics are, this shit right here is such a terrifying prospect for the future...
No one is taking credit, but we all know which party they're part of. Where is Roger Stone?
That’s the fucked up part: they’ll be decried as ”lone wolves”, and, as such, no care will be given in investigation nor pursuit. Each and every time. Nor to the aggregate effect of the countless “love wolves” who are never pursued, nor the fascist, terrorist packs they will obviously, inevitably form because they were ignored, alone, fed a diet of Trump and YouTube, and Alex jones, and Xitter…
But that’s the point.
I'm not sure if AI is going to revolutionize anything good, but it's certainly going to revolutionize election interference.
It already has. But unfortunately the news is not in the business of reporting the news. It is in the business of advertising and engagement. And sensationalist/bad News drives engagement.
luckily deep fake audio still sounds fake...
however, im pretty sure this is real
https://youtu.be/ZiQRF5h3zDQ?si=4M0sYy8on2GnXFVmIt sounds like they’re talking exclusively from the front of the mouth. I used to talk like that when I was trying to conceal a tongue ring. I wonder why that is?
Linguistics nerd stuff below: American English is spoken from the front of the mouth compared to lots of other languages (not this far forward, but still). I wonder if AI voices speaking Arabic would move Arabic forward by the same amount, all the way to the front, or further back (no human anatomy restrictions on AI voices).
Basically, I wonder if this is a consistent artifact of AI voices or whether AI is just exaggerating unique features of a language.
Edit: I found this, which sounds natural enough that I wouldn’t have thought anything of it (aside from the cuts and the actual things said), had I not been watching out for front of the mouth talk
Goddamn. This is a depressing time.
Why isn't th federal government making a bigger deal out of the fact that an official political candidate was used in a deep fake ad saying non consensual words for political interference
Why haven't these people been charged? Or at least found?? This was a litmus test for more deepfakes of joe during the main election...and they got the approval
Does this mean that liberals can do the same thing with DJT?
Tbh, I'm not sure what liberals could deepfake Trump that would be worse than what he actually says haha
I'm not worried about liberals deepfaking Trump, I more worried about grifters deepfaking Trump to further take advantage of low intelligence/low cognitive function trump supporters. I already see it with freeze dried ration scams and such. I don't want grifters to get ahold of my inheritance.
You're correct, which is why the next best thing is just deepfaking him into a completely different personality.
AKA: Sassy Justice
The Navy seal copy pasta
DJT's base doesn't care. If there was video of Trump saying he'd make abortion mandatory, repeal 2A, increase taxes, and change labor laws so that only gay blacks could apply for jobs, they'd still vote for him. At this point, it's gone beyond politics, into religion. As long as liberals hate him, that's enough.
I don't think I'm being hyperbolic about this. His base has all the marks of sectarianism. The far left does, too, to a lesser degree; look at the behavior of Bernie Bros. I think the difference is that Bernie is sincere about what he works toward, whereas Trump does whatever benefits Trump, but hides it behind rhetoric that only coincidentally corresponds with his actions.
In any case, we on the precipice of a sectarian war in the US. We already see sectarian violence from the right, with several instances of conservative physical attacks on the non-believers. Sooner or later, there'll be a liberal response; the far-left is certainly capable of it, c.f. the ELF in the 90's, and although that targetted property and not people, the angry violence is there and it's not a large step to targetting people.
Why haven't these people been charged? Or at least found??
This happened 2 days ago at the time of your comment, it seems a bit early to claim nothing's being done
Because the U.S. government is incapable of enforcing rules and protecting its people, and is therefore illegitimate.
That's why.
Dean Phillips got right around 20% even with the fact that Biden did a write in. I'm honestly kinda surprised it's that low. I would have expected there to be more than that considering the write-in.
Not that it matters since the DNC took away New Hampshire's say in the matter by nullifying their delegates. It is kinda horrifying that a private organization (the DNC) can just decide who has a say in choosing which candidates of the 2 we get to choose between.
DNC doesn't need to even have primaries. The political parties aren't public organizations. If another candidate was more popular, they foundy still win.
Besides, NH could have had a primary if they obeyed the rules. But they wanted to stay super special important so they were disqualified.
NH literally had to break either their own state law to move the primary, or break DNC's rules to have a primary that counted. And their republican state legislature would not allow them to move the primary. So they literally had no choice in the matter.
How is it in any way fair that 2 private organizations get to decide if the American people even get a say in the 2 (realistic) choices they have?
P.S. I'm assuming you mean might where you put 'foundy'. I don't know how that got there but I'm guessing a phone keyboard.
the USA isn't really supposed to have political parties like you do now.
Washington and other "founding fathers" argued against a party system, and there are no references to parties in the Constitution or other original documents mandating how elections are conducted.
The reality is that in any other country a private organization (=a party committee) decides who is the candidate for their party, and therefore who the public can vote for
It's always been the way. Even if the plebs vote for someone not approved by the party (ie Bernie), they have super delegates that get to outvote the others to promote their choice.
You can run as an independent or make your own party if you want to.
WTF is this part supposed to mean?
wasn't on the ballot, it was still chock-full of candidates like the boot-on-head-wearing Vermin Supreme, Rep. Dean Phillip, and Marianne Williamson
Are they calling Dean Phillip a vermin supreme or did someone named Vermin Supreme actually get on the ballot?
You're one of today's lucky 10,000!
For those that don't get the reference:
I’m so excited that you get to learn about vermin supreme
Vermin Supreme have been in quite a few elections
There's a comma.
Dean Phillips could be the apositive to Vermin Supreme, or both Vermin Supreme and Dean Phillips could be separate items in the list.
Vermin Supreme is a person who literally wears a boot on his head and is in politics. I don't know what his platform his, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to vote for him.
You should watch the video where he throws glitter on one of the other candidates and yells that they're "turning gay". https://youtu.be/O5nj_aex3QA?feature=shared (then you'll want to vote for him)
Is it really fair to say he is “in politics” though? Seems more like he just runs in elections.
He’s the only person I actually want to vote for.
There's a guy who calls himself Vermin Supreme. He wears a boot on his head and iirc claims to be a libertarian. He runs for president every year and never comes even close to winning anywhere.
Edit: meant to say he runs for president every election. He obviously couldn't run every year.
That's really impressive and pretty encouraging.
I read too much b******* online, so knowing that he doesn't even have to be on the ballot and can still win a primary is a wowser for me.
I confess, I'm ootl here. Why was he not on the ballot?!
Essentially, the DNC decided to shake up the primary season by shuffling the traditional order of primaries, and had South Carolina as the first primary in February. New Hampshire has a state law requiring them to be the first primary, so they could either break state law or defy the DNC. (Keep in mind that parties are technically private organizations, so I don't know how state law can force them to do that, but American elections are weird, and I'm Canadian.) The Republican-controlled NH government decided on defying the DNC, so although they technically held a primary, it was not sanctioned or authorized, and thus the DNC disallows contenders from appearing on the ballot, which Biden complied with. I believe the DNC has also invalidated the electors as a result, so they might not even count them at the convention.
TDLR; DNC changes primary schedule, Republican NH says "by law we go first", DNC declares NH primary unsanctioned and tells candidates to stay off the ballot.
The DNC is not holding a primary so NH is just doing this on their own for fun, and to comply with it's own laws. Because there is no contest, there is no need to collect the signatures and hire the lawyers and volunteers to get into the ballot. Other candidates did, but the national democratic nominating convention will be uncontested and Joe Biden will be the nominee.
That’s how you do it Jack.
Who would win in a fight: Diamond Joe Biden or Dark Brandon?
For zero delegates...
Unless the DNC is going to retroactively change their mind and not strip NH of their delegates now that Biden won.
Which would be really shitty considering lots of people didn't vote because without delegates it was literally pointless.
Just because Republicans went full on fascist doesn't mean Dems need to start pulling this stupid shit.
Let’s make up a scenario in our head that never existed and get pissed off about it.
The party could ultimately decide to seat New Hampshire's delegates at the convention this summer, but as of now, none will be awarded in Tuesday's Democratic primary.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-many-delegates-new-hampshire-primary-2024/
Welp, looks like you're wrong...
Edit:
I'll add the full context even
Last year, the Democratic Party moved to shake up its primary calendar and allow South Carolina to hold the first primary. New Hampshire Democrats said moving the date of their primary would require a new state law and couldn't be done in time.
The Democratic National Committee said the state violated the party's rules by holding its contest earlier than allowed, and thus none of the state's delegates would be up for grabs in the election. Mr. Biden also protested the primary date and withheld his name from the ballot, so anyone who wants to vote for the commander in chief will have to do so with a write-in vote.
Democratic candidates like Rep. Dean Phillips and self-help author Marianne Williamson will be on the ballot Tuesday, but Mr. Biden is still expected to win. The party could ultimately decide to seat New Hampshire's delegates at the convention this summer, but as of now, none will be awarded in Tuesday's Democratic primary.
In 2020, New Hampshire Democrats allotted 24 pledged delegates.
24 delegates, thrown out because the state party (who is in charge of primaries) didn't do what the national party asked, because that would require changing state law and there just wasn't time for that.
So the DNC and Biden threw a tantrum and tossed democracy out the window.
Because NH got their panties in a twist and decided that their miniscule state needs to be first? They can go fuck off.
Nope.
Because there wasn't enough time for NH to change their state law...
DNC and Biden got so mad a state wouldn't violate state law to help him in an election, they stripped the state of their say in who the candidate was. And it's a total coincidence he got his ass kicked there last primary....
But it's cool, because he legitimately is still better than trump, and even though that difference keeps shrinking, no one is allowed to complain about Biden because trump exists....
Democrats don't just want a pro-genocide corporate shill, they want an 80-year-old pro-genocide corporate shill.
Get ready for next 11 months of “BoTh SidEs aRE thE SaME” bullshit.
If both sides are same, why not vote for pro-genocide corporate shill who is not a rapist, not a traitor, and not a criminal?
Can't wait to watch this doofus not reply to anyone
Ok.