And this is why I like Androids feature that automatically revokes permissions after a certain timeframe of not using an app
Except from Google of course, the worst offender of privacy that exists.
They put all these "privacy" features in so other companies can't do what Google already does.
If you ever tried using a Google phone without Google apps, you realize how completely dependent almost all apps are on Googles API in the background, and most of them won't work without it.
Yeah its so freaking sad. It could be such an awesome platform (in some sense it already is) but of course Google has to put their greedy little fingers on it.
The worst part is that it has tons of literal bloatware. I tried ArrowOS without GApps on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4, and it was fast while sparing the battery! It had the original battery and I couldnt believe that it could last 2 days easily with light usage.
Then I tried PixysOS and damn, 3GB of RAM was barely enough.
iOS will sometimes ask you even if the app has been using it (for certain permissions), and might even tell you how often the app has used it. Which is really handy.
Like, “this app has accessed your location from the background 48 times in the last month, you gave it permission, would you like to change it to ‘when using’?” Or “This app has had full access to your photos, would you like to limit it?” (Not exact wording, but you get the idea.)
Something that delighted me when I discovered it.
(Android does permissions very well too, I’m in no way trying to knock it.)
Better yet: Bouncer allows you to remove permissions after a given set of time or immediately after closing the app. WhatsApp only gets my location for 3h after I shared it with someone on there - Google would never remove that permission since the app is in use regularly and it's no problem granting that permission anew next time I want to share something.
Also all my pictures are only accessible on demand by chat apps and not permanently
I've done this on a simple timer app I developed.
Why? Because I want the timer to stop automatically during a phone call. To do this I need to request READ_PHONE_STATE (which bafflingly tells the user the permission is to "make and manage phone calls"). Unfortunately, there's no way to alter the permission request to tell the user (at least in Android) why you want the permission. They really need to make the permissions more granular and provide some way for devs to communicate what the permission is for.
This is why, on the occasion of necessary permissions not being set, a lot of apps nowadays have a popup which tells the user something like "you need to grant permission for X because it actually lets this app do legitimate thing Y" like you just told us, with a button to click over to do the permissions grab and trigger the OS popup.
Smooth workarounds are out there!
Pre-permissions pop up:
Pre-permissions checklist:
Obviously, the calculator app needs camera permission for scanning complex formulas that would otherwise require lengthy manual input and calculating them automatically.
I mean, you can download one in 10 seconds if you really need one (or use Spotlight)
The app I use to write notes needs access to everyone in my Contacts. For "reasons".
Stop using that app and find a different one.
there are so many open source note apps that actually respect you
Simple Notes (Pro)
You know what's also annoying AF? The number of apps that keep asking permissions when you open then. Doesn't matter how many times you say no.
Yeah, NordVPN does that now if you have notifications turned off. I turned them off because I would get notifications that were basically ads. Now, I have to dismiss their "please turn notifications on" screen every time I open it up. This will be my last subscription with them.
Friendly reminder to my Android peeps that https://f-droid.org/ rocks!
I think I open up the google play store like twice a year.
Had to get a Gallery app from there last week
gstore idea of gallery app is ads in your stolen pictures
Seriously, is that how far we came?
laughs in LineageOS
But seriously folks, you can survive without Google Play Store. While it definitely is sometimes not easy and there are obstacles put in your way, after a certain time you learn to accommodate. And I have a peace of mind knowing that no one is selling my pictures to data foraging companies God knows where.
Majority of the stuff there should be on play store too.
I open F-Droid like every week just to know what's new. Found some cool apps that way. I'll drop some recommendations here:
Thumb-Key
Quasseldroid
QRAlarm
Audile
At least you've got a calculator app, ipads have never had one. Kind of ironic for a device that has more processing power than 1970's supercomputers.
more processing power than 1970's supercomputers.
Doesn't every computer and computer-like device for the last couple decades or more? Or is that the joke?
Isn't it better though? You can install it if you want.
I'm all for choice or whatever, but a simple system-provided calculator should be benign and lightweight enough to be there and coexist with any competing calculator app without much drawback. Like a clock or web browser.
And I thought our admins removed it...
Isn't app store full of calculator apps?
Mostly with ads. It’s easy to argue that a calculator is more fundamental to a functional tablet than a web browser is, and Apple includes one. By all means, there ought to be a market for calculator apps, but it’s pretty fundamental to cover the basics. Also, Apple already has a calculator on iPhone and iPad runs pretty much the same software, so where is it?
I feel like most people nowadays are just typing math calculations into their search engine. Which obviously also has massive privacy implications.
Yeah. If a search engine knows you didn't know 5x(30/47)^2 they might be able to derive your SSN from that information.
Well, if I start converting 23 cm to inches, you'll know that I have a massive dong.
Once upon a time I wrote an IRC chat bot for my friends and I that could do calculations and convert units (metric -> imperial) with a command.
My friends were impressed that I included units like furloughs, leagues and bushels.
My chatbot was just googling their request and returning the result (which, handily, was done by the google engine itself and was very easy to extract with Beautiful Soup in python). This was 15+ years ago.
This doesn't really have anything to do with your reply, just a fun memory I guess
Which obviously also has massive privacy implications.
How so? I don't know much about this stuff lol
I'm mainly concerned with people using it for calculating things personal to them, finances/taxes comes to mind first. While the search engine may not know with certainty what the numbers represent, they have so much data on you that they could very well start inferring what those numbers are to add to your profile. For example if you suddenly do a ton of calculations in the days leading up to when taxes are due and all the numbers have two decimal places, it would be a pretty big hint to them. Or if you always do budget calculations on the days you get paid, they might be able to recognize that pattern and work out when your payday is and what your income, expenses, and savings are. And they definitely have AI to make these inferences for them so they can do it for every single user. IDK I might just be paranoid though.
Love your username person
Thank you!
There are many fun ways of calculating stuff.
echo $((5+8))or abusing REPL mode of python3 or node.My colleagues once made fun of me using galculator with a tiling wm:
This is one of the many reasons I built my own weather application for Android. Too much crap out there.
It also wants to access your location and nearby devices and wifi
Weather wants your location so you can get weather for where you are
Well yeah. So it can look at its work on the paper.
You weren't expecting your calculator app to do all that math in its head, were you?
iPads : I'm once again asking you to download a calculator app from the app store
Oh don't worry, there will be a reason.
F-Droid ftw!
Calculator camera permissions are so you can take a picture of a mathvproblem and it will do it for you.
Phone call management is to allow phone calls to be recognized by the apk so it will do things like stopping video and muting its sound so the phone call can have priority over other things.
Is this an Android meme I’m too iOS to understand?
Sort of. I don't remember the specifics, but it used to be that some apps completely unrelated to phone calls had to request access to make phone calls because of some stuff they needed that Google only allowed them access to if they had the phone call permission.
I believe Google has since changed it so most of that stuff is now a separate permission not related to phone calls, so you don't see it as often now. It can still happen with older apps, though.
How quickly the fan boys come to downvote you for being correct. 🤣
What camera app are you lot using? I'm just using the default Google one and it works as expected with no bullshit.
That's because it automatically allows camera permission obviously!
Oh man, I hope the sarcasm is just implied.
Simple Camera
Not sure how Bernie is relevant here
the meme is him saying "I am once again asking" (for donations)
Are you too young to know the Bernie Sanders meme, or too old to know the Bernie Sanders meme?
Too old to care
Its a meme?
You will.
