Right, nearing mass production is what we call it when their PR department announced just a couple weeks ago that they're delaying the project until 2025, and they've been working on it for a decade.
These posts need to stop. Their only purpose is to lead gullible people on while the company desperately wishes for a magical fix to all their problems.
I'll believe it when it's actually in production. Toyota has been making claims about this for a long time now and it always seems to be "just a few years" away.
That's where I am, too. We've been hearing that fully practical electrification of transportation is Just Around The Corner! since the '90's. I'm still waiting for it to actually happen.
But I'm ready. Bring it on already.
On the bright side, with several almost completely practical BEV's on the market already we're much closer than we've ever been.
Thing is, if you're willing to go down to a Geo Metro type of car, BEVs would have been easily viable quite some time ago. Safety demands (for the passengers, not pedestrians) have made it impossible to remake anything like the Geo Metro, and general market trends have pushed cars even bigger and heavier. Meanwhile, we've increased pedestrian deaths with all these huge cars.
One of the biggest problems in the BEV market right now isn't the technology, but that manufacturers focused on gigantic luxury SUVs and trucks first.
Yep, thankfully there's more manufacturers trying to make it work. Samsung sounds promising
Other companies have also made progress recently. Chinese battery maker CATL revealed it was preparing to mass-produce its semi-solid batteries before the year’s end, while South Korea’s Samsung SDI has completed a fully automated pilot line for solid-state batteries.
Toyota president Koji Sato also admitted that production volumes of solid-state batteries were likely to be small when the company rolls them out in electric vehicles as early as 2027. “I think the most important thing at the moment is to put out [the solid-state batteries] into the world and we will consider expansion in volume from there,” he said.
SOOOOO not really close.. another press release hyping this up. How small is SMALL? Hundreds?
They clearly are still having trouble scaling production of this technology. It has EXISTED for some time but isn't of use to cars if they can't make hundreds of thousands of them.
they're using the promise of better batteries to make people reconsider buying full electric vehicles now. I expect it to be exactly like fusion, always a few years away.
Commercial fusion is not a few years away, and I've never seen the claim apart from deranged individuals on Twitter. If everything goes to plan, commercial fusion won't be here for a few decades.
What the claim may have been is experimental fusion, which does exist right now, we have generated power using fusion, and we even made more power than we put into it recently. It's moving, but it's slow, as planned for the last few decades.
Not even a press release, but an FT post. Which is worth less than a press release somehow.
As far as electrification goes, Toyota is virtually at the bottom of the list of car manufacturer . I'll see it when I believe it.
F.U.D. Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. A favorite tactic of IBM, then Microsoft, now Toyota. If you can’t compete, announce an upcoming “breakthrough” so customers will delay purchases from competitors
Truth, these type of announcements are meant to instill a sense if something better is coming if we just wait. It's a honest strategy if there is truly something in the works but right now a lot of misinformation is just making it an bad strategy to use.
Wtf is this linked to? A good dozen tries and I can’t pass the captcha? Am I just a sentient robot who is unaware or this a mechanical Turk thing where I’m helping some bot pass l
Just archive.ph?
Here's the original link, post it on archive.ph
https://www.ft.com/content/6224f235-568c-4e2f-8247-e7dacf0ef20c
Do you use Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1)? They block it because they remove some trackable information from requests.
That's fucking stupid. But yes, I had the same problem, and the article is behind a paywall 😥
Not intentionally, but I’m on iOS which ma becrelevant
Same here - not sure if this is a cloudflare problem, but i've been getting these more and more. I'm on a Mac, I'm pretty darn sure I don't have a virus, so I don't know what's going on.
Never did get to the article, btw.
Very interested to see what things look like not when it releases but a few years after.
Problems include the extreme sensitivity of the batteries to moisture and oxygen, as well as the mechanical pressure needed to hold them together
Not quite the ideal thing to have in a real world car. For example, what happens after a little accident leaves an opening in the hull of such a battery? Or creates some more pressure than needed here and there?
Someone enlighten me: what is a non-solid-state battery?
One with a fluid electrolyte. That includes current Lithium-Ion and Lithium-Polymer batteries, as well as the older Nickle-Metal Hydride and Lead-Acid batteries.
A lithium-ion battery is composed of cathode, anode, separator and electrolyte. Lithium-ion batteries for smartphones, power tools and EVs uses liquid electrolyte solution. On the other hand, a solid-state battery uses solid electrolyte, not liquid.
https://www.samsungsdi.com/column/technology/detail/56462.html
Wake me when it happens
