/r/ProgrammerHumor/ closed for a couple of days, then - "because mods have to listen to the community or otherwise they get replaced by more /u/Spez compliant mods" opened up again, and held a voting which new rules to enforce. The sub opened up with the new rule allTitlesMustBeCamelCase.
I made the first post about 15 minutes after the sub re-opened (because I'm in their discord, I was aware it opened up again, it wasn't announced yet, I think) - and of course I just make a shit-post about John Oliver since it's the /r/pics (and a bunch of other) subreddits way to protesting the API changes.
It wasn't even that good of a post to be honest, it got temporary taken down by the subs' mods since they mentioned "it's only anecdotally related [to programmer humor]" - but after messaging them explaining the context they put it back up. So it's basically approved by the moderators of the subreddit. And not against the content policy of the sub
It got like 3k upvotes in about an hour, so I got a message from some bot that I was on the frontpage of /all/ as well. At the end of the day it had 13.5k upvotes
About 48 hours later I got an automated message:
Your account has been permanently suspended for breaking the rules.
This account is permanently suspended due to violations of Reddit's content policy
I posted an "appeal" basically just asking "Lol you banned me for posting John Oliver?"
And the only response I got was:
Thanks for submitting an appeal to the Reddit admin team. We have reviewed your request and unfortunately, your appeal will not be granted and your suspension will remain in place.
For future reference, we recommend you to familiarize yourself with Reddit's Content Policy.
-Reddit Admin Team
This is an automated message; responses will not be received by Reddit admins.
I posted another "appeal" yesterday asking "Could you clarify which Content Policy rule I broke?" To which they haven't responded yet.
It's the only post I made in the last 2 weeks, so there wasn't any other reason to suddenly ban me besides this post...
My reddit account was 12 years old at this point. I was going to leave anyways because the Reddit client I use (sync) already announced it would be shutting down June 30 - so I don't care that much that they banned me - just though it was a pretty weird approach from the Reddit Admins to start banning people for getting John Oliver on the front-page
Custom medals for an instance that admins/mods could give to accounts or posts would be cool, might be a way for admins to reward/push good content. Kind of like reddit mod awards except you don't have to give money to a jagoff to do it.
I'm hoping they're still going to respond to the appeal, as my first appeal wasn't really a real one, just basically a "lol wtf?" one... Considering maybe it was just one random "hardcore" rogue admin on a banning spree for things they didn't like. - And that if I just submitted an appeal another admin would see it and unban me. But that didn't go as expected
So I'm hoping they at least answer the second appeal asking to give me a reason. I'm curious if they're going to admit it's for the John Oliver post, or if they're going to pull something from the history and be like "2 years ago you said something mildly problematic we just discovered" - or most likely, just keep it vague and say I violated the content policy without explanation
I'm surprised that they replied to your appeal at all.
I got "permanently suspended" a couple of weeks ago for "report abuse" (I was reporting comments in /r/conservative as misinformation, because they were misinformation, and the mods apparently decided to retaliate against me) and Reddit can't even be bothered to respond to my appeal.
I also sent a data request a couple of weeks ago, and they haven't responded to that yet either.
I like how they permanently banned your account, it's against their rules to make a new account to circumvent a ban, then said "for future reference please read our comment content policy".
part of their selective enforcement - they know the site is full of socks shills and bots, they just look the other way till its convenient for them to apply a rule to an account they want rid of.
my alt was banned after my prime account was, it took about a day then out of the blue was banned. did not post anything with it and only noticed when i logged in a week later
I'm guessing that's a big reason why. You know what Reddit used to be like, and that's not where they want it now, so you're more of a liability than an asset. They'd rather grow their userbase with millions of new users who will adapt to whatever shitty platform they're continuing to morph into.
Your comment just game me an idea but what if we make posts discussing how reddit has become a shithole but word the posts in a search engine optimised way
Do they really think that they can compete with Tik Tok?
Reddit's biggest strength was how so many questions you'd Google would lead you to Reddit yet they're actively driving away the people who created that content.
I wasn't a prolific poster but I did get involved with answering people's questions when I could. Now I believe that Reddit isn't a capable steward for that content.
But why use a proprietary app when there are awesome people making Free and Open Source applications? For example Jerboa or wefwef.app. Anyone can audit their source code and make sure they don't spy on you or do anything malicious.
Because the developer has years of experience in crafting a near perfect app for Reddit, much of which applies to Lemmy as well.
Over the years this dev definitely earned the community's trust and I see no reason to assume he will pull sneaky shit now.
FOSS is awesome, but I kind of dislike the militant push towards it here on Lemmy. As soon as someone does not release their source code people go "But have you thought about open source?", "Why not open source?", "No source, no install" and the likes.
No plans to open source right now but potentially lemmy
ReVanced has patched sync to be compatible with any reddit API key, in case /u/ljdawson nukes it. And people have been working on decompiling sync and making it compatible with lemmy, and then recompiling it, but that's not a long term solution. Making large changes on decompiled source is not ideal in the long run. Best case scenario would be for sync to become open source
Edit: Apparently I was wrong and the actual reddit sync dev is making a "sync for Lemmy". The context here for preferring an "open source reddit sync" was that - if there wouldn't be an official app - it would make it a lot easier for the community to port reddit sync to Lenny from open-source, instead of having to do it from a decompiled closed-source."
How is open source related to Sync for Lemmy being an option? It was announced already: it's coming.
Something being open source or not may be a reason for some to use or not use something but generally it isn't an issue for the mainstream. (Exhibit A: Windows and MacOS hold around 85% of regular home users).
He also wouldn't nuke Sync for Reddit.. the key he uses will stop on July 1st since he won't pay for it.
I've been wondering why I haven't seen ANY anti-Reddit posts on the front page lately, despite anti-Reddit sentiment being really high and almost all sub action votes are heavily anti-reddit.
Yep, i was permabanned a week ago because i was all in on this boycott/ Fuck u/Spez. Not looking back, i hope Reddit crashes and burns. They are treating the users like garbage and not needed when we are what makes the site what it is.
I mean, those aren't mutually exclusive. I have plenty of shit I've personally written that sends automated messages once something has been completed, even though the process that's completed is manual. It's extremely common in any ticketing software especially to automatically send an email with the contents of the ticket update or with notification of a status change. Given the quality of their "admin team" and programming staff I'd be surprised if they had even customized the install of whatever ticketing system they paid a contractor to set up.
Arbitrary enforcement of the rules is the main problem here.
Reddit can be thought of as a three tier hierarchy, in decreasing order of power:
Layer 1 is the admins
Layer 2 is the subreddit mods
Layer 3 is the users.
Now, the admins have the interest of having the mods and users work for them for free to generate contents. To do that, their best interest is to have Layer 2 and 3 constantly in conflict with each other so they won't turn their attention to what's going on in Layer 1, and they can just step in as needed as "the good guys" when things get out of hand.
(Don't say the name of the book please)
The way they did that, is of course, by making a "Layer 1.5", the so called powermods, and promises them arbitrary powers that they can abuse (delete and then repost other's content, blatant karma farming) to have the attention and the hate from Layer 2 and 3 on them instead of Layer 1, and so they can get away with whatever they want for flimsy excuses. (closing source code, shadowbans for real people, quarantine, awards, NFTs, new reddit, etc.)
Previous attempts at leaving reddit (Pao, controversies surrounding other various hate subs) failed because only Level 3 and a few lower member of Level 2 were responsive to the problems, most people are just indifferent and want to have reddit the way it is now, so Layer 1 can just pled ignorance and have people move on.
So, what's different this time? This time both Layer 2 and 3 are collectively moving against Layer 1 for the very first time, and to maintain the illusion of normalcy would require more direct interventions from Layer 1 since playing dumb is no longer an option. Of course, powermods (all around bad person awkwardtheturtle, for example) outlived their usefulness as distraction, so they can now be arbitrarily disposed of as well.
Easy! Level 3 is everyone one problem away from being homeless and anyone worse off than them. 2 is the middle class all the way up to some movie stars and athletes. 1.5 is the ridiculously over paid stars/ athletes all the way up to the very richest individuals. 1 is all the families that have their wealth spread out enough so we don't talk about it, but have the real financial weight to get what they want done. I know, you think Elon musk and Jeff bozos should be in layer 1, but if they were, they wouldn't be showing their dumb faces in the news to us IMHO.
That post is actually funny IMO, how thin skinned do you have to be to suspend people permanently for that? It obviously doesn't break any rules. If it was ambiguous whether it did, a warning would be more fitting.
Yes I can see it's not directly about programming, but close enough IMO.
It's true. Since my account is suspended, I'm unable to delete or edit any post or comment. So anyone is completely free to Doxx my account, find it on a waybackmachine or any another other reddit archive and see if I posted anything even mildly problematic, or prove that I'm lying or leaving out details for no apparent reason or whatever
If it was ambiguous whether it did, a warning would be more fitting.
When something is ambiguous whether it fits a specific subreddit or not - is up to the mods to decide, and they deemed it ok. Sub-offtopic stuff just gets your posts removed by the mods, and normally wouldn't get you side-wide ban
I was permanently banned for reporting bots as spam on my 12 year account, but u was still able to edit my comments. I need to finish doing so on the rest of them...
Well those type of places are gonna exist somewhere regardless. I personally liked keeping an eye on those type of subs on Reddit, just to see what discourse was going on and watch them react to the latest flavor of fear porn
I got permanently suspended for reporting misinformation in r/conservative. To be clear, not banned from the subreddit; suspended site-wide. That's the admins supporting the mods' retaliation for reporting misinformation.
While the admins probably should be figuring out whether your reports were legit before acting, the mods can't see who reports anything, so the only response to someone spamming reports is to pass it off to the admins.
One of the common ways to do that is to also report the comment for "report abuse", which is supposed to trigger a review of other reports, but hilariously sometimes ends up with the mod who reported the abuse being suspended. The Reddit software and the people behind it are quite dumb in many ways.
I'm sure Reddit will remain for many years, but I seriously hope this is the beginning of a major shift in peoples approach to large sites like them. Many smaller communities can only be a good thing for the internet. Lemmy/Beehaw are exactly what I hope become more commonplace. Mega social media platforms all need to go.
Yep, I submitted a GDRP request for all my data as well. After they've complied with my data request I intent to submit a delete request
I practically work as devops / sysops so know the GDRP rules since I had to deal with them myself...
After my account was suspended I can no longer do any "write" actions on reddit; upvote, downvote, delete posts/comments. "Luckily" my username is/was RonSijm - which is also my real-life name, therefore everything I've posted falls under GDRP. So they'll have to comply with my request to nuke everything. "do it yourself" is not an option
Careful, when you delete an account they just mark the username as [deleted] and claim it sufficiently anonymizes the data. Explicitly tell them to delete all comments or at least send then a specific list of comments with anything identifiable.
Eh... damage control, "Hey, we've got enough of this shit and we saw you on the front page so get nuked nerd", etcetc. If anything, that'll be a nice thing to tell to you grandsons, "Back in the day I got lots of fake internet points and got nuked into oblivion because I made a pun out of a random person."
It's tempting to do this, but I have a lot of posts that people might find filled with valuable emotional support. Someone in the future googling what to do about (insert one of the hundreds of emotional traumas I've had) and finding "haha lmao I'm on lemmy now and this content is gone forever" is kinda rude. I can't do that to them.
Fair warning: if you use a script or bot to edit comments, most of your subreddits will ban you for doing so. They apparently either have tools to detect this, or else the users left behind are sensitive to it and are reporting it.
Source: I did this, and am now banned from my favorite communities on reddit.
Upside: I don't care, because I'm not going back, anyway, and now most of my comments have been overwritten.
Downside: The script I used missed editing TONS of comments, so I ended up editing and deleting hundreds of comments by hand anyway. (I commented a LOT, apparently! 🤣)
A similar thing happened to me about 3 weeks ago. Yet I have no clue as to why I was banned... just "boke content policy rule" with no explanation of what rule... So I moved on.
I posted an Oliver pic, maybe I'll get that account banned. Reddit bans are pretty stupid. One of my accounts, the oldest one, is permabanned for telling off a racist. I didn't even cross a line, I just told them that if they're gonna be racist, that's all they're going to be and anything else they have to say doesn't matter.
I've been saying this a lot over the last few weeks: Reddit is a tool. Just use it on your own terms. Reddit admins legally own the site, but fuck them, if you wanna use their tool, use it. Just let the behavior of the tool guide how you decide to use it. As it is, I still use it, but it will change next month and I won't be downloading the official app, so I won't use it as much, and I will no longer be a "feature" of the site, as in the subs where I was only there to contribute to the site, I have left. The subs that are still useful to me, I keep. If they ban me, I will just use one of the accounts they don't even know is me and I will pare my subscriptions down to only the subs that don't have a strong community elsewhere. I also will only interact with the site in ways that allow me to block all ads.
People not responding to your comments or posts, or not voting, even though it's a post that you may reasonably expect a lot of engagement with. Not an obvious way to tell, but if you've made a ton of comments or posts for a week and there's no engagement with anything, you may get reasonably suspicious.
Log out of reddit or use another account to check your original comment. If nothing comes up, it's been shadow deleted. You might figure it out this way if you have multiple accounts or if you share your posts with a friend. If every one of your posts has been shadow deleted, you're almost certainly shadowbanned
I am surprised they have not gone after my account yet since my last comment was just the link to ublock origin which got over 400 upvotes. I guess they are waiting for my data request to come through so I can get it sent to my inbox? Though they could just send an email.
I don't know if there are better "reddit archivers" out there that would show more history, but I don't think there's any "stuff that gets me banned" in there. If anyone knows a better reddit archive lemmy know
My Reddit account was permabanned because I posted (about a guy who killed a teenager who came to his house) "You know, I've changed my mind. Give this guy the chair. Not as a punishment but as a mercy. If I had grandkids like that I'd want to be mercy killed too!" The grandkid I was referring to was a screenshot of his grandon's Twitter calling him a Nazi.
Banned for "inciting violence" or some horse shit. Appealed for 30 days straight, now every one of my appeals is instantly denied by some bot.
Just be glad you don't have to spend more time in that shithole.
Redditor for 13 years I think. Same username as the one I sport on here.
Hell, I got banned for agreeing with a post. And when I complained about it to the mods, they had reddit perma ban my account.
Reddit is slowly going to fall apart. For example, one subreddit i used to like (before THEY banned me) has made it so that only people who are considered "experienced" (whatever the hell that means) on the subreddit are now allowed to post topics.
And the subreddit that banned me would not openly list there moderators.
I don't really care as they have finally soured me on the site permanently. TBH they have done me a solid favour. Reddit is just slowly going to eat itself.
It is truly incredible how little it takes to get permbanned on reddit. I posted something in r/politics once that the hivemind didn't agree with, despite being neutral in language, and immediate permban. That is why people keep making accounts over there, they can try and whack-a-mole but you can't stop an idea.