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A post on Ask Lemmygrad by user Cyber Ghost titled "What are the reasons why Russia attacked Ukraine?"
Below is the comment by user @cfgaussian reading: "The Nazi Kiev regime attacked the ethnically Russian Donbass for eight years intending to commit genocide in their quest for an ethnically pure Ukraine and Russia finally came to their aid after it became clear that the Minsk agreements were never going to be honored. Also, NATO was turning Ukraine into a hyper militarized threat to the integrity and security of Russia itself. Refusal of the US and Europe to negotiate on a new inclusive security framework, refusal to stop NATO expansion eastward, and the relentless and violent anti-Russian psychosis that has gripped Ukraine since the Maiden coup that triggered a civil war in a country in which half or more of the population are essentially Russian became intolerable."
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"They had to invade! Ukraine forced them to!"
Great argument.
Isn't this the literal reason the Nazis, as in, the actual Nazis, gave to justify their invasion of Alsace and Lorainne? That their friendly ethnicities were being discriminated there, and that they had to invade to save them?
Alsace and Lorainne
Don't think it was the reason there, since France and the UK declared war on Germany after they invaded Poland, so they didn't need a reason. However the Nazis used this line of argument against pretty much every neighbouring country. Especially with Poland which had a huge German population on the territory annexed after the first world war, and against Czechoslovakia it was indeed the cited casus belli.
You don't understand. Nazi's had to invade other countries because they were becoming infested with Nazis. Nazis were the problem and the solution! /s
“How could you blame him? Look at how she’s dressed!”
"Look at what you made me do to you" is classic abuser logic.
Does that mean that seeing satellite images of Russia grouping forces along the border would give a perfectly acceptable reason for Ukraine to invade Russia, because Russia turned the border into a hyper militarized threat? Using their own logic on them.
Sounds like the China fans with Taiwan. 'They actually want to be part of the PRC they just dont know it yet'
'Those ukrainians are basically already Russian so its fine'
This is a screenshot from lemmygrad. Those people are the China fans you're referring to, it's all the same group of people.
Had a, uh, discussion with lemmygrad where apparently wanting high speed rail without secret police and genocide is a controversial take. It was a post kind of half celebrating the atrocities of communist regimes. Only for lemmygrad users to turn around and tell me that those things never happened, but they were totally justified and ought to happen again, but communists don't do that kind of thing and it's all made up propaganda, unless you're a capitalist or a liberal or [someone else who deserves it]. There were a few interesting and intelligent lines of thought in that whipping circle I found myself a part of, and I was glad for those, but generally the ideological spin was going so fast, you just about had to slap a tail rotor on it.
Yeah, raping and killing your own people is totally fine! .....Ohwait, no, it isn't.
This is a great answer if the question were "What are the false reasons Russia gave for attacking Ukraine?"
Lol the Jewish president elected by Nazis. Nazi party literally never broke like 6% of the vote in ukraine.
That still seems like a lot of Nazis.
It is. But there's even more white supremacists in Russia, including many prominent government officials.
Ukraine has a legit problem with Nazis yes. Russia has no room to judge, however.
It is and something that needs to be dealt with. But the issue is much worse in surrounding countries like Russia. Hell, one of the puppets Russia installed in DPR was a Nazi.
Do they realise they use the same exact excuse Hitler used to occupy czechoslovakia?
No of course not because not a single one of them has a clue what they're talking about, and has never studied history or politics.
To them everything is black and white. You are either an insane tanky or you're an evil Nazi, and there's no other option. There's definitely no normal people, since they see themselves as the normal people.
I think most of it is chronically online 17 year olds that have had their brains so borked by the american two party system and political climate being so volitile. They've grown up in a world where its us vs them, im always right you're always wrong, I can do no wrong and you can do no good, etc. So when they learn that the USA kinda (really) sucks, it fucks with their head and they start thinking "the other side" is right.
Yes, the USA government is grossly corrupt by corporate money and the media is compliant, has taken part in imperialist conquest, and has lied about its own history. But that does not make Russia/China ANY BETTER.
I would rather live in the USA than Russia/China in a heartbeat, even with USA's problems (there are a lot) because at least I can say "Fuck the usa, death to America" without being erased from the timeline by secret police.
This is militaristic copy pasta.
Your mistake was looking at anything related to lemmygrad
Not gonna lie I do sometimes read it for brain fucking fun lmao
you have a very different idea of fun to me 😅😬
That's a lot of Copium.
More ethnic russians in Germany than in Ukraine, this is clearly an overreach by NATO
You forgot the /s (although it's obvious it's sarcasm)
OG OP actually asked a good question. Aside from regional cultural claims and geopolitical military perks Ukraine also holds massive significance for its ports, grain production, and the oil pipeline that crosses from Russia to Western Europe.
Not condoning Russia's actions, from it, but if they had managed to get away with it they'd be in a vastly better position on the world's stage.
Yeah it's a good question, but asking it in lemmygrad it's like asking the meaning of life from a dog. At best you get unintelligible barking.
That's what I don't get. All these tankie morons are hiding behind the flimsiest of "Nazi persecution" lies. Ukraine is just flat out amazing for Russia strategically, it's very clear what they wanted. Not to mention some fat ore reserves they have parked in the ground for burgeoning industries.
But no, it has to be Nazis and Western agendas while they bomb schools and residential neighborhoods with these extremely accurate bombs they possess but choose not to use...
Because propaganda dictates that you need to the moral high ground in war. Else its very difficult to sell to your soldiers the idea of dying in foreign land.
And that propaganda seems to be awfully effective, judging from lemmygrand and hexbear comments (even though I am pretty sure some of those users do not really believe it, but are paid to write those comments)
I can understand Russia not being excited about the prospects of a NATO ally being on their border, but their own actions drive Ukraine towards NATO.
Also the whole Nazi thing is pretty stupid. It's not like Ukraine holds a patent on neo nazis. Most Western countries have them even countries like Germany that have outlawed them, and Russia does too.
Also worth mentioning, in addition to those things, the relatively recently discovered oil and gas deposits in Ukraine, much of which is off the coast. Before the first invasion (where they took Crimea), Ukraine was getting ready to tap into that and compete with Russia for western energy money.
recently discovered oil and gas deposits in Ukraine
Oh, that alone explains a LOT. As usual, a proxy war between larger players' interests.
What a dumbass.
isnt it donbass or something?
bah-don-bass
Errrr bah-dum-tssshh sorry.
What... did I just read? 😳
Archer gif "Idiots, doing idiot things, because they're idiots"
Blah blah blah…What being an agent for the Russian state on social media does to your brain.
ftfy
There is no way this isn't sarcasm
It sadly isn't. That is a post on lemmygrad.
Something something Poe's Law
I see you are unfamiliar with tankies.
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A post on Ask Lemmygrad by user Cyber Ghost titled "What are the reasons why Russia attacked Ukraine?"
Below is the comment by user @cfgaussian reading: "The Nazi Kiev regime attacked the ethnically Russian Donbass for eight years intending to commit genocide in their quest for an ethnically pure Ukraine and Russia finally came to their aid after it became clear that the Minsk agreements were never going to be honored. Also, NATO was turning Ukraine into a hyper militarized threat to the integrity and security of Russia itself. Refusal of the US and Europe to negotiate on a new inclusive security framework, refusal to stop NATO expansion eastward, and the relentless and violent anti-Russian psychosis that has gripped Ukraine since the Maiden coup that triggered a civil war in a country in which half or more of the population are essentially Russian became intolerable."
User Summertime Soviet has replied to the comment saying "It's a shame we can't pin comments on posts, because this one would get a pin from me.
so instead, have this Farmer_Heck seal of approval"
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The poster forgot to mention that the maiden protest was actually a fascist coup by undemocratic non-communist western liberal capitalists… or something.
!good human
🙃 Thank you
Good human <3 I'll try remember alt text next time.
Edit: added to op
Awesome! Thank you, fellow human.
Funny considering that our former Wagner chef himself said that the whole 2014 pretext was bullshit. Also funny because one of the groups that Russia used since 2014 in that region is Rusich, a very obvious neonazi group. So Ukraine was fighting Nazis all along.
“violent anti-Russian psychosis”? Psychosis? Really?
The majority of the time, I try to understand the perspective of my opponents. Unfortunately, there are times (like now) that I’m afraid attempting to understand will only expose me to hatred, ignorance, and false information. For example, I have no idea what the “Maidan coup” allegedly was, and I refuse to look it up. It might even be a real historical event documented by reputable sources, but I’m not wasting my time finding out. (That isn’t a dare. I don’t want anyone reading this to search it, either.)
Maidan revolution/coup was a real thing. In 2014, protests against then-President Viktor Yanukovic's decision to abandon a legislative agreement with the EU and instead join Russia culminated in Yanukovic fleeing to Russia and a number of definitely-not-Russian soldiers storming into Crimea. It really can be considered the flashpoint that started the current round of Russia-Ukraine hostilities.
Wikipedia gives the Ukrainian version https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity
Ah, okay. Thanks!
"Maidan coup" or better known as euromaidan. Very short summary is that elected president turned coats to lick Putin's shoes and got replaced.
Tankies refer to this as a coup organized by NATO or CIA or something lmao
They generally seem to claim it was a fascist/Nazi western lead coup.
Oh man if you want a great documentary on Euromaidan, I strongly recommend you watch "Winter on Fire." Pretty sure it's still on Netflix and the footage is just incredible.
It is. I just added it to my list this afternoon. Thanks!
I mean... That's certainly a world view.
Putin's worldview to be more specific.
Yes, it's funny/sad how the commenter basically writes a carbon copy of the worldview of russian propaganda machine. What a coincidence.
Do these people live in one of the affected countries or are they looking at it from the outside? Are they serious or are they just trolling?
If I had to guess, majority is from English speaking countries
Yeah, believing that really requires some mental gymnastics, intellectual laziness and lack of common sense..
Lol, I just blocked that instance. No way I'm looking at commie word puke.🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
your brain becomes glue
Which makes it all the more amazing that when scrutinized, none of their arguments seem to be able to... hold together 😏
Then it hardens and becomes smooth brain
That rationale is composed entirely of bullshit.
Remember y’all, the only good tankie is a dead tankie.
I'd say the only good tankie isn't a tankie any more.
Average lemmygrad user L
Pfff too obvious