Bernie Sanders: A Mass Movement Can Beat Health CEO Greed
Bernie Sanders: A Mass Movement Can Beat Health CEO Greed
We spoke to Bernie Sanders about alleged health insurance CEO shooter Luigi Mangione, the crisis of for-profit health care in America, why only a mass movement can win Medicare for All, and how to fight the growing share of working-class votes for the Right.
I want to live in the timeline where things Bernie sees actually come true.
If it weren’t for Hillary and the DNC being corrupt, Bernie would have destroyed trump in 2016. I know so many people where I was living in middle America that flipped from Bernie to Trump.
I never supported the orange (am Canadian so I don’t get a say) but after Bernie lost in 2016, I kind of wanted him to win (not enough to actually vote differently though).
Why? Cause I knew he would get us here faster.
If we are going on the wrong path before we correct course, might as well do it faster.
I want a revolution, I prefer FDR style, but I guess the only option is French style (which I don’t officially support).
Bernie can read the room. These other fuckers very much less so.
I'd step back onto the streets with Bernie at the head again. A small part of me still holds that hope from 2016.
Never forget Bernie's legacy... https://youtu.be/ZlZaVtCT5HI
Yes he can. I am happy he still has a voice.
I feel like they can just choose not to because wheres the money in that?!
Word is, when Bernie first saw the news of the murder, he said, "Fuck yes."
Even if he didn’t support the action, it is clearly getting us to talk about what he wants to talk about.
Mass movements can do lots of things, but we can’t even get a majority of people to vote…
We can get a majority of those that do vote to vote for Trump so I am not that hopeful.
Because people don't feel represented in the current FPTP voting-system, which to be fair, was designed by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans.
I can't even get a plurality of people to agree that we should have a national strike.
As it turns out, you only need like around 5% of the population to start a revolution (if even that amount). Revolutions have been started with even fractions of a percent.
Voting is how we got here...
Political proces and utterly captured
Otherwise we would have had Bernie 2016.
I am tired of political clowns pretending like politics is the solution, it is key part of the problem.
Did you see how politicians are reacting here.
Besides Bernie that is
Yes, it can and that’s why we should keep trying.
But it does seem less likely than in 2016.
I’m not desperate (am Canadian) but I don’t blame desperate people.
The ends don’t justify the means but no one is denying that they do get results.
And that the correct means have been tried for decades.
I feel like we've made more progress in our national discussion regarfing healthcare since the assassination than we have in the previous 10 years.
I don't want to think that violence is the answer, but damn if it ain't a conversation starter.
There's also the fact that the day after many insurance companies were suddenly approving procedures they denied the day before.
In all likelihood the assassination saved lives.
We've had several mass movements about it over the past 15~20 years, the only thing that has worked so far is lead poisoning.
I know we loved the leaded solution and we won't cry if more happens but yeah at the of the day the system will need a legal reform to properly depose the parasites.
Shootings might continue until morale improves?
My morale is already improving personally. 3 lead tablets a day keeps the insurance companies at bay. Guaranteed to get you a better rate.
RL lakecityquietpills
I feel like there's a real chance they will continue... The reaction to this was just so insanely positive, despite the fact a man was murdered.
Have we ever seen anything like this as a country before? I'm genuinely curious...
History is already absolutely littered with examples of this, and its a miracle there hasnt been more of it yet in the US.
Fuck it, i think Luigi’s method is gonna be more effective.
certainly if the movement is fast enough, as we've learned.
Say a muzzle velocity of roughly 1100 ft per second?
Sometimes it do be like that
It can't be Democrats or republicans, those both are cunts.
Need to support a new party.
Is "working families" legit?
Sadly I dont see a third party ever being the solution due to our first past the post political system. We need election reform for a third party to exist, and those 2 cunts you mentioned would NEVER allow election reform to happen on their watch.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
So why not start right now? Not 3 months before elections, now.
Create a web platform and organize. Idea is - to create a "troll" factory but not for trolling , but rather for propagandizing the cause. Let's say you have 10000 accounts army you can then direct on pushing the news and ideas we want and candidates we want.
The Working Families party appears to be legit. Adam Conover did an interview with one of their organizers and it really felt like they had the right ideas and were building the right tools to give power to the people, while understanding the system as-is is stacked against what they want.
I've had enough of my country being for hire.
There has to be a LOT of caution in not letting neolib leadership in the door. neolib commoners? yes. Neolib leaders? No. They just enabled a genocide for money in our name, with the whole world watching. They are pure poison and have to be left outside like pets that have turned rabid. Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton (not sure baout Obama) they are not our friends or allies. They are holding us down and doing what they want. Let them join the republican party where they always belonged.
They need to be disavowed for this new party to have any chance at being taken seriously. The second these bastards get in they will look to overthrow whatever is built and bring back pay-for-play mercenary politics like AIPAC.
I healthcare insurance companies need to become extinct.
You heard it from Bernie. Sharpen those pitchforks.
Good interview, good vision. Should have been Bernie.
This country needs to have a mass bowel movement and flush that shit down the drain.
Give it a try Bernie, maybe if you say it someone will listen.
Mass movement, movement of mass, close enough.
I wish we would see a movement like this in Canada when it comes to grocery giants like Loblaws
Do they also have a law review?
I think Bob has a law blog.
Loblaws got a parastic CEO and y'all got school shooters?
Might resolve itself at some point but who knows
No way to tell tbh
He is not wrong lol
But when I say the same solution I get banned from communities for being a "coward" and "copaganda."
a mass movement of 3d printed felonies
I didn't see any felonies
Just a well done job.
maybe a mass movement and a few other.. things.. will do it.
Yes, yes it can.
So he wants us to beat ceos. Got it
Only if that movement is armed.
The problem in my country is that most people are complacent and could care less to do anything about it aside from trying to overthrow the government because they had to wear masks and take a vaccine.
Dont forget that at its core those people are outraged with the hand they were dealt, the GOP is just very good at directing that anger where they want (in that case masks and vaccines). However there is an option where we can stop dem vs gop fighting at a citizen level, and channel our outrage together at the people who are actually ruining our lives, billionaires and their government lackeys. Otherwise its total economic collapse, or WW3
For me, it's canada, and the liberal and conservative party. As it stands, the cons will win a majority goverment if there was an election called today, as there is alot of distaste for justin trudeau. The thing i'm most afraid of is bringing ethno-christian values into the country as legal laws, and cutting programs that benefit canadians, like the cons have done in the past.
Beating them is another good option, well reminded, Bernie.
Peñata economics... Beat the rich until the money comes out
Yeah a small mass of lead with a lot of movement behind it would do wonders to the brain of most ceo's
~1100 fps for an object about 9x21 mm
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CEOAm I reading this right?