Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump
Kamala Harris Broke Donald Trump
In their first face-to-face meeting, the Democratic nominee humiliated the former president.
Even so devoted a bootlicker as Senator Lindsey Graham declared the debate a “disaster” for the ex-president.
Donald Trump is so feral and narcissistic, so unrestrained and so outside the norm of American politics, that he’s difficult to debate. It’s disorienting. Very few people have been able to stand up to him without being pulled into the muck. In the past, even when he lost debates on points, he dominated his opponents.
But on a Tuesday night in Philadelphia, Kamala Harris cracked the code.
Trump was always broken. Harris just drew attention to it in the right way.
no but she really hacked him like a cyberpunk runner.
the issue of immigration is her worst and his best polling issue. so when she was answering that question she added this part about crowds leaving his rallies early. the moderator moved past that and almost helped him by refocusing the question on immigration but he just couldn't let it go. he not only focused on the crowd remark, but also went immediately unhinged, screaming about people eating cats.
it's like a fucking cheat code. look at his reaction to her saying people have early. it's like the sound the game makes to let you know the cheat code is activated.
Yea, I feel like I didn't see anything new from him. Kamala just lead him around like a dog on a leash, and exposed it better than anyone else has.
I don't even think the immigrants would eat that dog
She applied the McGinnis technique.
One thing I've come to believe is that the extended media reaction to a debate affects public opinion more than the debate itself. The media don't quite dictate viewers' judgments, but they shape and solidify them. And what this string of posts is making clear is that on the day after Donald Trump is still losing the debate. He's probably going to try to stage some dramatic bullshit to derail this media train.
Very astute observation. I think the only thing I disagree with is that I personally think the media do to a large extent directly dictate viewers judgements. Which makes the rest of your points even more salient.
He's going to eat a live dog to prove how hawrable it is.
You projected puppy crunching noises and fur-muffled trump gagging noises into my brain, and it was so vivid I felt it would be a shame not to share that imagery with you. <.<
Absolutely. If the media outlets had decided that Trump won, then Trump won. Almost no one actually watched the debate. They only looked at "highlights" curated for them.
I understand my very presence on lemmy makes me less representative of the mean but I was hooked from start to finish.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he replaced Vance with RFK Jr now as that would kill discussion of the debate.
He arguably can't.
He and vance are on the ballot. So is RFK, funny enough. Which is why RFK is trying to get off the ballot in swing states. The reason Biden could tag Kamala in is that the DNC had not actually chosen a candidate yet.
My suspicion is that an exception would be made rather than run into the mess of leaving republicans unelectable in states. But it would still be a giant shitshow and not in a good way.
That motherfucker been broke.
He’s been broke for a long time. The only thing he actually owns is debt, which he will never, ever pay.
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On that stage we saw the two things most capable of utterly destroying Trump: A prosecutor, and Trump.
She should have mentioned his tiny little hands after shaking them - dude has such a LDE vibe, I bet he'd have lost his shit.
She's more mature than to stoop down to his level and ridicule someone's appearance or anything like that. The handshake was enough to get to him and plant that seed, a complete and total power move.
"We go high" is what got us into this mess. Remember Hilary? Democrats need to get off the idealistic high horse already and do what works.
You can absolutely play their game without getting mud on you.
Edit: Basically there are a ton of stupid people and if they can't be convinced then they should be used
Did nobody notice the moment when he tried to silence her and added, 'sound familiar' to make some sexist remark about telling women to shut up? "I'm talking now, sound familiar?"
She said "I'm speaking" to shut up pence in the 2020 debate. That's what he was referring to. Still he's a dick.
Also she wasn't even really interrupting him. If you watch the clip, she was muted and he was easily heard over her. It wasn't as if she was really steamrolling.
You can tell it got under his skin in 2020, and this was just a pathetic way to "get back" at her for being a woman who asserted herself in a debate.
It’s genuinely so amusing how badly that little dig backfired on him. I’ve seen other people also not realizing he was trying to riff on “I’m speaking”. The thing he failed to realize is that essentially any professional women that were watching have likely heard that kind of shit from an older man at some point in their career, and it makes him look like (more of) a complete asshole.
He got the line wrong so even most who would recognize it didn't and the "sound familiar?" didn't make any sense.
Wish I could read the article.
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Even so devoted a bootlicker as Senator Lindsey Graham declared the debate a “disaster” for the ex-president.
Lindsey Slam!
What did they expect Kamala Harris used to be a prosecutor?
He thought he could take her because everyone around him always tells him what a good smart special big boy he is and they let him win at everything. As we all saw, his temper tantrums when he loses are something special.
New "aight I'ma head out meme" just dropped
It was super effective. I am surprised he didn't faint
Archive link.
Cautious hope that this may a "Have you no sense of decency sir?" moment.
Liberals should be careful with this. Y'all want them to feel like Trump did alright. We can't have him being switched out at the 11th hour for a more competent candidate
Trump would rather die than not be the center of attention. He's a narcissist, not feeling like the center of attention literally feels like dying. His ego wouldn't allow it. His fear of going to jail wouldn't allow it. And the fact that the republican party would implode wouldn't allow it.
The scary thing (for Republicans) is that their whole party is currently held together by hairspray, orange spray tan solution, and Depends diapers.
Trump cannot drop out. As long as he's alive, he's running.
That wouldn't work. The idiots are voting for Trump not the Republican party. If they replaced him the idiots would see that as the Republicans betraying them. Then they would split the vote and write trumps name in anyway. Complete victory for Dems in that scenario
When Trump goes, the rest will tear each other to shreds. As insane as he is, he's the figure who's holding it together. Like a fat gormless toad sitting on a stone in the middle of the pond.
As an outsider to American politics, I predict a (temporary) collapse in support for the Republican party the minute he's ousted.
I don’t know. That might help accelerate the disintegration of the GOP.
But like others have said, if he’s alive he’s running.
rfk jr was too late to withdraw for filing deadlines, I have no idea what would happen if trump withdrew. His only way out of this is to kill JD Vance and make it look like a democrat did it.
I recognize the feral and narcissistic paragraph from somewhere else. Source for this?
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Breaking a broken old man is just the purview for a black female cop.
I see what you did there.
I'm confused why people think Kamala won the debate - she was just regurgitating pre prepared meaningless lines.
She clearly and concisely responded the questions she was obviously going to be asked. You may disagree with the answers, or you may just not like politicians, but she was obviously prepared and professional.
Donald rambled, lied, and went off topic constantly. He spent more time talking about what Kamala said than his own policy. When he was pressed on policy he had unclear answers or dodged entirely (e.g. "concepts of a plan").
He came across as unhinged, bordering on detached from reality, and he seemingly doesn't have any plan or vision for the country, except that it definitely isn't project 2025 (except it probably is). He was undeniably more interesting to watch, but not in a good way. Based purely on the debate from last night it's not clear if he's fit to lead a book club, let alone a nuclear superpower.
That's what debates have been pre-Trump.
There were never any surprises. They were expected to be composed and articulate.
It was mostly about getting voters to tune in at prime time because despite there being round the clock news, most people don't actually pay close attention to politics.
I remember now what I always hated about debates, they were always boring reminder that both parties are the same
Did you hear trump? He didn’t answer a single question, ranted about eating pets half the time, talked about how big his rallies are, and yeah that was all he did.
So it's expected from Trump. Kamala didn't answer any questions either but for some reason is getting a pass. She is just regurgitating cheap slogans, what good is that?
how?
did she come out strong on worker's rights, healthcare, the environment, upping the minimum wage, police reform, or anything that would directly help the citizens?
debate watched was Harris and Trump babbling for over an hour with no concrete plan for anything out of either of them
I only watched the first 10 minutes or so of the debate, and even I know Kamala Harris had plans for things she talked about. This is just a bad faith comment.
she did yes but none of it involved anything that is really needed
universal healthcare, police reform, environmental protections, minimum wage
only thing the Democrats stood strongly on was women rights which they have ignored for over half a century
so long so rights have now started to be lost and only now are they voicing an opinion on top for asking for donations
Debates are terrible places for substance; you've got 2 minutes to talk and you still need to address your opponent and they can derail or misconstrue what you just said without a proper rebuttal. The point is to argue your side of things, which I think she did fine and was very strategic in avoiding things that would have put her at a disadvantage.
It's like a Lemmy comment. You can have a good idea, write a paragraph or two, and you'll still have people call you out because you can't fully explain a topic in this format.
