Undecided voters say they now support Joe Biden after debate

If you want democrats to win, you shouldn't delude yourself with this stupid article that takes the opinion of one undecided voter (asked out of a group of about a dozen people) and pretend this is something that applies to undecided voters at large. This is copium on the level of 2016 and we'd all be better off if we didn't huff this bullshit. We should be taking steps to improve our chances, not gaslighting ourselves.

I'm laughing that I submit 2 different focus groups of undecided voters saying the opposite and it's down-voted into oblivion.

But this copium is upvoted...

At least 2 previously undecided voters now support Biden so I suppose this headline is technically correct, it's just completely meaningless and insignificant statistically.

In this thread:

Everyone not on the Right doing what they do best:

Argue incessantly with one another.

And ya'll wonder why the Left struggles so often.

Ok let's see how the polls move. If they move in the right direction, Biden stays on. If they move in the direction everyone knows they'll move in, he steps down. Deal?

I don’t trust Newsweek, you probably shouldn’t either. However, with that being said… if the debate would have gone differently, and let’s just say Joe had a bad sore throat instead of “a cold,” and Joe went up there and said nothing at all, he’d still have my vote in this election. Honestly, I think if Joe would have said nothing, and just let Trump lie, that would have been better than how it went.

He appeared as weak, and a bit incoherent up there. He resorted to name calling on multiple occasions.

Trump lied about 90% of the things he said. Trump sounded better, and didn’t really take the cheap shots at Biden that we expected.

There was nothing about that debate that would have swayed “undecided voters” (who’s that by the way) to vote FOR Biden as a result of the debate. The number of lies coming from Trump may have persuaded some people to vote against him however.

No one who saw that debate was inspired by Biden, no one. Ok maybe 1 out of 100, maybe. But 99 of them were not. Gaslighting won’t help, the goose is cooked.

What kind of head in the sand, wishy-washy troglodyte is undecided for this election? We've already had 4 years of each, with 24 hour news coverage for literally everything they do.

Samples size of a focus group on Univision...

It did quote a poll that Biden is only up 1% among Latino voters tho

Fucking insane that it's that close. But I guess when Biden literally copies trump illegal border policies, it's hard to get them scared of trump.

I don't consider myself a Republican or a Democrat, although unless things change drastically in American politics, I can't see myself ever voting Republican by the time I'm dead and gone. With that said, I mentioned to someone yesterday that if I didn't have the experience of living through Trump's time in office, this debate would make me seriously consider voting for him.

I really don't believe that this debate is going to sway many undecided voters toward Biden. If you compare their performance at face value, Trump was unusually well-spoken, and Biden seemed like he belonged in a nursing home. Half of what Trump said was complete bullshit, but how many undecided voters are actually reading articles that show how full of it he really is?

What you have is a person who stated lies as fact and did a decent job of being convincing and a person who was generally truthful but seemed like he "wasn't all there." Undecided voters who "don't follow politics" are going to see this and say "You know, I think I understand why people support Trump." That's a very scary prospect.

I don't dislike Biden, but my personal opinion is that the best thing he could do for the country is step aside and let a different Democrat take the nomination. Geriatrics like Trump and Biden need to retire, do whatever they feel like in their golden years, and let someone else take the reins. A competent politician in his 50s or 60s would absolutely destroy Trump, and that's exactly what we need right now.

Polls are all trash, but this focus group we believe.

Oh good, I guess Biden has absolutely nothing to worry about then...

Undecided Latino voters specifically according to the article. I don't think that should be too surprising based on the lies Trump was spewing about illegal immigration.

This is literally a new article about an X post where they're interviewing some Latinos.. Objectively, the cope is insane. Joe is fucked

As a decided Joe Biden voter I am confused but I thank you.

https://www.axios.com/2024/06/28/joe-biden-replace-us-elections-2024

All undecided voters in a U.S. swing states focus group hosted by pollster Frank Luntz said President Biden should be replaced as the Democratic nominee after watching his first presidential debate against former President Trump.

Newsweek is tabloid-adjacent.

Biden is underperforming his 2020 run by pretty much every metric. It's time to try something different while we still have time.

Democratic party would crush it if only they replaced Biden with a younger candidate. I'm telling you, even republicans might switch over and vote democrat if this happens.

This is not surprising, because everyone knows Latinos are avid golfers. Why wouldn’t they support the candidate with a 6, uh, I meant 8, handicap?

This just adds to the growing list of journalists that are discovering people in rural red areas aren't going to vote for an asshole after all, MAGAs excepted.

But I was told that all Biden's answers were completely incoherent? You're telling me that the media is making a big deal out of a few moments in the debate?! That's never happened before!

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Headlines about the Biden stumbling over his words and being difficult to hear have not stopped since he and Trump went head-to-head in the first 2024 presidential debate in Atlanta.

One man said he would vote for Biden because "Trump sounded like a crazy liar," according to Matt A. Barreto, professor of Political Science and Chicana/o & Central American Studies at UCLA.

His growing popularity among Latinos, as well as with other minority groups like Black Americans, is often cast as a surprise given his rhetoric about Mexican migrants.

When it came to the topic of immigration in Thursday's debate, Trump said, among other things: "There have been many young women murdered by the same people he allows to come across our border.

Trump and Biden made reference to a recent headline-making case in which two Venezuelan men, who entered the U.S. illegally, were arrested on suspicion of killing a 12-year-old Houston girl whose body was found in a creek after she disappeared while walking to a shop.

Researcher economist Elisa Jácome concluded that "immigrants with lower levels of education today are significantly less likely to commit crimes than their U.S.-born counterparts."

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And to add something with more substance than straight eye rolling sarcasm, amazing that the non-english speakers loved his performance.

Lets get one of those translators on the ballot.

Pure copium.

what matters

...really? Hey, I'll take it!

What's more important liberals? The United States of America or the Democratic party?

Which one would you let go of first?

Ranked Choice voting or barbarism. Take your pick. I couldn't give a shit less what you pick to be honest. I didn't have kids. The pain ends with me.

Pick.

Considering the fat orange liar is the only alternative, kinda expected some increase to the laid back side

Yeah sure!!