Texas deputies shoot woman mistaken for intruder, bodycam video shows

They shoot people for no reason and you hope they get parking duty?

How about they go to prison for their crime of attempted murder.

sue the cops so hard it'll change their training

Won't happen unless taxpayers raise hell en masse, since they foot the bills for lawsuits.

This is so insane. It actually does look like the police officers completely freaked and just started blasting and then got into a kind of panicked frenzy.

Basically the only way to be safe from police is to not have windows or have bulletproof glass or some kind demilitarized zone so you can see who is coming without coming "out of cover". Have a video phone to talk to would be visitors.

Now, how SHOULD have the cops handled the situation? Again, it's SO easy to say "well, they should have done this..or that..."

Here's the thing...I don't have to provide the answer to this question. I am not a "trained professional" that is paid specifically to handle these kind of situations.

What I can say without a doubt is there is zero excuse for this woman being shot. If officers are not able to go through their workday without shooting an innocent person then either they shouldn't be a cop or they shouldn't carry a weapon. Period.

A police officer's discomfort or cowardice does not supersede an innocent citizen's rights.

Pizza delivery drivers die on the job twice as often as police. Should they be able to shoot anyone they want without real repercussions?

...Actually, food service workers specifically should get one free kill a year

I bartend. Bad neighborhood, no security. When I work, it's just me behind the bar. Same with my coworkers. There have been plenty of times over the years when shitheads have come into the bar looking to start problems, plus the usual nonsense that happens with a room fun of drunk people. I've never shot anybody over it. Neither have any of my coworkers.

Look for another job if you can't handle the stress of your current one? Don't just unload your lethal weapon at the slightest hint of potential threat?

No other western democracy has such well armed and yet poorly trained police as those found in the USA.

It's an order of magnitude more dangerous to get in your vehicle and drive somewhere than it is to be a cop. Is this how you'd defend someone who committed vehicular manslaughter due to negligence?

Pizza delivery driver is statistically a more dangerous job then police, stop spreading copaganda/ apologia

Some proposed changes for your consideration:

1. Remove upper limit on IQ for cops for all precincts that have one.

2. Cops should be trained for longer than a hairdresser.

3. No more Killology seminars.

4. Personal liability, including criminal liability for egregious shit like locking prisoners in cells covered with feces or burying corpses behind the HQ.

"Who's doing it right?" Not us, my dude.

officers typically have to make split second decisions that can mean life and death

If you feel you need to UNLOAD your weapon at the slightest hint of anything amiss Then don't become a fucking cop. That's a choice anyone can make.

Now fuck off, you apologist piece of shit.

Its impossible to distinguish a combatant from a noncombatant by the mere presence of a gun. Half of households have a gun. Even if an intruder was on scene how would you avoid murdering the home owner if you shoot first and ask questions later. You communicate and take the risk of harm to yourself in order to ensure you don't shoot innocent people or you turn in your badge like the pussy bitch you are.

For clarity why do you think its hard to say wait for the door to open and say drop the gun while pointing your guns at the person. Note if they freeze like deer in your headlights in fear you may need to repeat your response and wait for compliance.

What split second? They emptied their entire clips. That's like a 30 second decision.

Your argument would work if they hadn't yelled to drop the weapon and started shooting in the middle of it.

She didn't point it at them... they weren't in danger. People are allowed to have guns in their own home... she did nothing wrong.

Given how these types of encounters keep working out, if I feel in danger when I see a cop with a gun coming to my house do I get to shoot him and say I felt threatened? If the cops did nothing wrong why can't I do the same because clearly we are in danger when cops come to our house.

No.

Weird, I thought there was this thing called the second amendment that gun advocates always say is necessary to defend yourself against tyranny.

Also, the cops yell, "DROP THE GUN!" and the start shooting. Immediately.

Maybe don't blame the victim for both exercising her right and for the cops not even giving her time to do what they tell her to do.

Cause only cops can say they are cops, right?

The victims only heard banging and not the cops announcement.

So she gets her gun to defend herself and answer the door.

Cops see the gun through the window. Don't announce they're police. Scream to drop the gun and immediately empty their clips...

And if they had plugged a child with a toy gun in this circumstance your argument would be what? Go ahead. Try and say that never happens. I dare you.

Walking to the front door of her home with a legally owned firearm does not excuse these officers from attempting to murder her.

Police officer emptied his gun because an acorn fell in his car and he got scared

The US is one of the largest countries on Earth, with all sorts of different crimes from different walks of life. Street gang or not, it's imperative that we have strong police forces throughout the country to minimize crime. You think it's bad now? Imagine if no one would wanted to be a cop. Imagine if every time a cop did something wrong, they were fired or imprisoned. We'd literally have no one wanting to do it. I don't think people understand how big, and free the US is. Whenever you get something like this, strict law enforcement is not only needed, it's required.

tbf, if you approach soldiers in an active combat zone while carrying a gun, they are legally allowed to shoot you. The weapon marks you as a combatant.

Yes, and there was a point of nuance I missed as well. I was not attempting to disparage the modern military though, as much as point out the us-vs-them mentality and pursuit of destruction of the enemy as a high priority.

Too bad it was so close range too. She might have had a chance because their aim was probably just as shit as acorn cop's considering how poorly trained they clearly are 😕

The slogan isn't "get shot and die, because you're too tough to shoot an armed person first" either.

Just imagine yourself in this situation: You're a cop. You're in front of a house that someone, reportedly, broke into. You bang on the door and identify yourself. Several seconds later, a person with gun walks out, not saying a word.

Even if you take a second to access the situation: there's a person, brandishing a weapon (which, in most cases, is a crime) walking out of a house that has been broken into. How does this come off as a safe or normal situation, exactly?

Clearly that's only reason police exist. No exceptions. They never do anything other than abuse power and shoot people for funzies. Not at all.

As we all know, the world is perfectly black and white. Assigning qualities to groups of people and, then, treating people in those groups as if all of them posses those same qualities is a perfect system with no flaws. AdolfSchmitler would know.

She literally grabbed a gun.
There's a difference between having a gun on yourself or in the vehicle when you're getting pulled over, and pulling one out and putting it in your hand.
When you see someone grab a gun, you don't assume they're going to scratch their back with it, do you? So, if you get pulled over and the first thing you do is grab a gun, you'll get lit up. Because you're an idiot.