I signed up for lemmy.world because I don't want to write an essay. Shout out to the lazy people.
I signed up for lemmy.world because I don't want to write an essay. Shout out to the lazy people.
I signed up for Lemmy.world, because not having downvotes is stupid and leads to a shitty community.
Ironic that three people downvoted this. But I agree, a "no downvotes" rule is designed to avoid disagreement and conflict, which is impossible on a public forum without extremely restricted expression. If the point is to be always be nice, why not disable open commenting and make users select their replies from a list of canned positive comments. 100% safety and positivity.
I'm torn on the whole no downvote button thing (I missed that when I signed up), but you can be still nice while having a discussion and disagreeing with people.
I would argue that the downvote button can lead to exactly what you are describing though, no disagreement or conflict.
Someone posts a unpopular opinion, a bunch of users downvote it to hell and poof!, no discussion or exchange of ideas. Just out of mind, out of sight.
I do kinda wonder if beehaw actually has downvotes not do anything for comment ranking and such, or if they just hid the button for it's users. Because I can still see a downvote button on beehaw communities, being from a different instance, and I often notice comments on that instance that do have a downvote or two, which seems to imply that it does actually record and send data about downvotes from other users
It's actually the opposite.
All I put was "I like bees and to yeehaw proudly". Its probably just a way to filter out bot accounts.
Ok now I'm embarrassed about how strongly I pitched myself to get on lemmy.ml. I was like overcaffeinated on the first five minutes of a blind date!
I think things have tightened up a lot over there in the last 5 or so days. I don't even remember what I put (definitely nothing more substantial than yours) and I have an account over there of similar to age. People who have tried to sign up more recently have mentioned being rejected after multiple serious looking responses.
I like lemmy.world so far - relatively neutral admins, no weird stuff like disabling downvotes, you can create communities and post nsfw!
And the only blocked instance is full of pedos and nazis, so kudos for lemmy.world!
I signed up to lemmy world because I thought it was Lemmy's World which sounds like Wayne's World. I like Wayne's World.
Party time!
Excellent!
I thought of ebaumsworld. The internet was a simpler place back when we were on ebaumsworld. This place feels strangely similar somehow?
I'm here because I didn't know what I was doing when I signed up.
A more serious reply than my last comment – I've been on the fediverse for over 5 years, and on "Twitter-like" instances (GNU Social/Pleroma/Mastodon) there are some communities that either over-police language and have an extremely restrictive CoC, or the absolutely opposite with quite literal nazis spewing nonsense. I just wanted to make sure I found a chill Lemmy server full of mostly regular folk, and lemmy.world seems to fit that description.
Also because because beehaw has sownvotes disabled. Imo downvotes are an integral part of the Lemmy experience. As it is for reddit.
The issue lies with what downvotes really mean. We've all seen instances on Reddit where where downvoted to hell because it was an idea contrary to the majority of the sub/echo chamber even though they were totally valid.
I would very much like a world where upvotes and downvotes are not symmetric. As is we say total is upvotes minus downvotes, but in reality upvotes exist to say "good job" and downvotes should exist to say "this is spam or unnecessary"
A better system, IMO, would be to make downvoting closer to reporting, a little harder to do, but if the ratio of down to up passes a certain threshold, the comment is then flagged for review and/or just massively downgraded.
Oh, and you cannot do that to something you reply to. Either say "this is trash not worth engaging with" and move on, thus ensuring trolls do not get fed, or reply but acknowledge it was worth engagement.
Honestly it was kinda foolish for Reddit to ever think it was going to be otherwise. People are inherently tribal by nature.
It was absolutely impossible to have a constructive conversation between two opposing beliefs on reddit partly because of that system, it was really infuriating. On the other hand, beehaw seems to outright block the instances where users don't subscribe to their echo chamber, and I don't think that's good either.
That's always distressing to see, but if it keeps happening it's also evidence that community isn't worth the time to visit.
basically every thread i was apart of.
I don't really care about the lack of downvotes but the reason I didn't join beehaw was because users are not allowed to create new communities there, you have to ask the admins for permission
not that I wanted to spam a bunch of stupid communities but I prefer a more organic approach to growth than constant applications to get anything done
reminds me of intentionally obtuse government functions where everything has to go through committee before approvalI do respect their intentions though wanting a more curated experience, just not for me at this time
I just think its fantastic that instances can try different things and users can (actually, really, for real this time) easily vote with their feet.
I didn’t know there are major differences between the instances (like the voting system). I’m basically here because the join-page suggested lemmy.world 🤷🏻♂️. But I like it here :). Still haven’t fully understood how these instances work or work not together but I like that you don’t need accounts everywhere you want to post something. Is there a single server that handles user authentication or how do other instances know my account? 🧐
Yeah. Each instance is able to run their local communities how they want. Basically each instance is it’s own thing with its own rules and subs (communities). You can join that instance by creating an account there and your settings, saves etc will be maintained there.
You can’t use that login to log onto another instance, but your posts and any communities on that instance are shared with other instances so people on other instances can see your posts. The other instances don’t know about you directly, but since your instance name is there in your account name e.g. [email protected], an instance knows it can go ask lemmy.world about MoonKitten to get information.
tldr; accounts only work on the instance you signed up on, but instances talk to each other and exchange posts, user info etc.
What happens if a certain instance goes down? Is everything posted by this instance then gone? Can there be duplicate usernames across different instances? What about the email address you need to provide during sign up? Does is do anything?
Working as intended then. Because in general most instance admins just care that you've put in at least a little effort to answer their questions, which in their eye makes it less likely that you're a spammer or troll.
I agree with this. One of the more irritating things about places like Reddit is that they're full of low effort content and conversations get filled with a lot of noise from people who don't really want to meaningfully contribute.
This. Lemmy.ca also had questions which were clearly just a check that you were a human
Yeah, I just said that I'm coming from Reddit and my username is what I've always used, and I got approved within a minute.
This will just create a culturally irrelevant ivory tower.
Wow. I didn't realize beehaw has over 380 instances blocked! Now I feel like I'm missing out on the Lemmy fediverse.
I don't think you're missing out on much. Most aren't even lemmy instances.
I received this reply about this from Alyaza:
this is because we started using a heavily curated blocklist for the worst mastodon instances (they can interoperate with us). we didn’t expect any trouble from any of them, but any instance in the new batch of banned instances can be safely assumed to be quite bad and it’s better to be proactive than not.
link https://beehaw.org/comment/176651
edit:
checking into a few of the listed blocks now... most of them don't seem to be operating anymore.
Still I'd like to have a choice in the matter lemmy.ml unfortunately also has a lot of blocked instances, and alot of the other instances are overloaded right now. I'll probably wait a week or so until this craze blows over and sign up w/ a newer and smaller instance
Shame the instances list doesn't include reason for blocking. Looking at the names most seem obvious (and I don't feel like I'm missing out on those) but there must be some grey areas.
Having a reason listed would be nice. I picked one off the list that I couldn't figure out from the name alone why it would be banned and decided to take a look and see why. I was apprehensive. What horrors was I about to see?
Couldn't figure out why it was banned from the content alone. I looked it up and found a website that has their defederated instances list and the reasons. I didn't see anything that matched the reason given, but I didn't care enough to keep digging further.
I think the list is shared among a few instances.
Is there any chance instances will start (or already are) blocking other instances based on instances they're linked to? Similar to the way some subreddits would automatically ban users for participation in other subs, it could further enforce echo chambers. If Lemmy.world is a little more open, I'd hate for it to get blocked by somewhere like Beehaw just for that.
How can you see what has been blocked?
/instancesurl of a server shows both linked and blocked instances for a particular node. For example: https://lemmy.world/instances shows them for lemmy.world, https://beehaw.org/instances for beehaw.
I spent 2 days trying to get my reverse proxy running with my own server just so I didn't have to write 2 sentences lol
I signed up for beehaw initially, got in, but wasn't a fan of some of their rules and how they police speech in their community.
All good, I can still view and participate in their comments, but Lemmy.world had more of the vibe i was looking for
I tried to sign up for beehaw 2 days ago, but still haven't been approved. I guess my statement about wanting to discuss science and philosophy and videogames wasn't good enough :(
ya im just figuring out all this but the fact i can still see and post on the beehaw instance makes lemmy.world the jammy on day one. people commenting and shit
i still dont really understand it but its social media and im feeding my addiction.
LMAO, felt this.
The last time I had to write a Statement of Intent was to get into grad school and I sure as shit ain't doing homework for a free online community.
I wrote 1 sentence and was accepted.
TIL people think 1 sentence constitutes an essay.
Are you Shakespeare?
Seriously. Tell me you're lazy without telling me you're lazy, OP.
You don't have to write an essay. I literally just wrote "because I'm leaving reddit" and got in a couple days later. Makes sense that approval times may be longer with more people leaving. But, I agree it is a bit much. I use Lemmy.world too just because I didn't want to initially wait a couple days to be approved.
I also wrote something like that and i was approved in like ten minutes. But it was around the 8th of June, before the user explosion
Yeah I originally created an account at beehaw.org before coming over to lemmy.world. The main reason I moved was because I wasn't a fan of the fact I couldn't freely create new communities over there (and I don't think you can create communities on other instances?), but also just ~vibes~.
To be fair, this is actually kinda great to see - it's one of the strengths of this federated system. The folks that run these instances are being pretty generous already to just let us talk and share whatever the heck we want, and it's perfectly reasonable for a host to want to be selective about who they let use their resources.
I have accounts on a few different communities. Mostly because there is no real way to know how the community is until you start interacting with it and it starts interacting with with other communities.
Beehaw is nice because they are actually trying to cultivate a friendly community and moderate a lot of the trash out. But also... sometimes you dont want that hand holding...
I'm on beehaw mostly because I don't want my lemmy experience to mirror my reddit experience: ie getting into 10 comment arguments with bigots over things like "trans people deserve to live" or "art is inherently political". I've had enough of that for a lifetime.
I wrote like 2 lines and got accepted immediately, you don't need to write an essay
Yeah I doubt the admins would appreciate anybody who actually did write an essay
I'm here cause i was completely ignorant of lemmy and it just so happened to be the link I came across on reddit at the moment I decided to give it a try. I been enjoying my stay so far.
I wrote:
Reddit refugee, let me in!
I wrote 'Fuck u/Spez'
Bravo!
I wrote something similar and was accepted lol
Surely at some point with the influx of users they quit reading or just scan the replies to make sure they don't look too weird.
Nice
I went through the application process on Beehaw and they never got back to me, so it seems the answers I wrote weren't satisfactory.
That's okay.
I'm fine right here.
same. super annoying precedent for them to set
I get that they don't want to platform toxic people. As long as there's an alternative it doesn't bug me too much.
There’s a good chance your account was activated. I don’t think notifications were going out for a bit.
*ChatGPT intensifies*
I did the essay for a couple of the popular instances and still didn't get approved
Thank god for lemmy.fmhy.ml
Thank god for lemmy.fmhy.ml
This instance has gotten me to don my eye patch and sail the seven seas for the first time in years.
Yeah Im dusting off the surfer after a few years of just making sure the battery is good...
This instance reminded me one of the main reasons I cared about computers was sailing the seas.
Edit: sugarification
i just put my in for lemmy.ml and got approved in like half an hour
Yes fmhy all day 🙌
I almost made a Beehaw account since I saw a bunch of the communities I wanted to join were on there and it kept logging me out when I went to them.
I managed to figure it out after seeing that making an account there needs an essay. So I guess I’m just gonna stay based here, waiting to see if and when kbin opens itself up to the rest of the fediverse (since I joined there first but came here when I saw that kbin is currently blocking itself off from everyone else, which is exactly what I didn’t want when making the jump from Reddit to the fediverse).
You can still follow Beehaw communities (or ones on any other instance) from this instance, you just have to view them from lemmy.world. If you check the "all" tab under "communities" you should be able to see some of them and also search for them.
^^ facts. It took me a little bit to figure out the community search, but it connects to all available instances.
I have a Beehaw account and an account here (I know I know, sorry, but I like having 2 accounts to keep certain things separate). I think I wrote like 2 sentences and got accepted in 5 minutes.
I tried many times over 2 - 3 days to get a beehaw account but it just didn't happen, quite happy on lemmy.uk and Lemmy.world
Beehaw seems like a fun community but their admin likes censorship and their instance doesn't support free speech. I'm hoping we can build something comparable to @[email protected] on the free side on Lemmy.
I never know what I "can contribute". However I have Opinions That Must Be Heard. That's probably sufficient.
Regardless, lemmy.world rocks.
I picked lemmy.one at random. Somewhat reduced features for some reason, but otherwise functional. I'm not really clear on what the advantages and disadvantages of any give instance might be.
Here's a list https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances/
Lemmy.one doesn't allow creation of communities, you cannot downvote and three other instances are blocked.
Right now, not much, I think? But since Lemmy is open source, instances may begin to form with new functionality as long as the core protocols preserve federation?
I hopped over from Mastodon.world Ruud does a great job with that one so made sense to join his lemmy instance
Those of us who did write an essay still haven't heard anything back yet, so don't feel like you're missing anything for being lazy.
FYI I never got any email and thought I was rejected/pending too. But I signed in the next day and it worked. So it might just be the notifications that aren't going out. Also I only had to write like one sentence.
So that's what happened. Thanks for giving me the push to try.
I wrote two or three sentences I think, got accepted quickly. Maybe they're dealing with an influx of applications.
From what I've heard, there's thousands of applications they are working through so it may take a bit to get caught up.
I registered at lemmy.ml, on 6/9. Wrote a sentence or 2 per question. Never heard anything back by email but I tried logging in the next day and I was in. Either they aren’t sending emails or something is broken with the mail flow. Either way took me less than 5 minutes to say I wasn’t a complete fuck and was looking to move away from Reddit. Actually this response might be longer than what I wrote to register lol
Lemmy.ca has email optional, so I didn't add one (might later). I answered the questions, tried to log in 15 or 30 minutes later, and here I am. I'd be unsurprised if there are a few people waiting g for their approval notifications who didn't actually provide one.
Also, there was a bug that affected email notifications or something? I remember seeing something like that when I joined last weekend.
I didn’t know there was an entrance quiz on the others!
I'm on two, this and sopuli.xyz - which I joined on a whim before even knowing what lemmy was. I'm pretty sure my personal statement was merely "I miss usenet". And, it's weird, but the community search function is...inconsistent at best. I've tried searches on three different instances for a common term and come up with nothing (sopuli), 4 communities (.world), and 6 communities (.ml). .world seems like a more generic fit and, um, yeah - no personal statement.
The email requirement was annoying but this instance is fast.
Some villainous instances should be defederated tho.
which ones in particular?
Burgitt.moe seems bad but idk if it's bad enough. They're really into the whole free speech thing (and they ignore DMCA which is nice) but usually the ultra free speech places get overrun and polarized very quickly (see 4chan)
me too lol. no ill intentions but just cba to apply for an account
Exactly why I choosed lemmy.world. I looked for something less busy, but justification for account? C'mon...
I kinda dig this new (compared to Reddit) "friendly competition" dynamic between servers.
I've been having a good time on vlemmy.net. It's small, has a fairly active admin, and seems to be fostering a healthy community with a reasonable number of restrictions.
i wrote about two or three sentences for every question, neatly formatted into three tiny paragraphs, got accepted within 5 minutes!
You haven't seen the lemmygrad join requirements.
I tried signing up here twice and wrote an essay both times and didn’t get accepted before I found lemmy.world. That’s alright I love it here anyway
Same 😁
Before I got in here, I tried to get into there. Glad they didn't let me in!
Lemmy's lazy world!
A couple of days ago I applied with an answer but I guess they didn't approve me since I could never get sign in to work there. And that was after having issues signing up at kbin... Now both those instances seem to actively block Tor Browser users.
The Dude abides.. just sayin.
I tried lemmy.one, wrote like 3 short sentences to answer their questions, and never got a response.
Same here. Maybe they're just overloaded? I mostly just wanted a login somewhere to try and get the handle on lemmy in general.
Moat likely answer. It's like people complaining the nurses suck when their grandma is sitting in a dirty diaper at the nursing home and they have 2 nurses for the whole building.
I wrote like... 4 sentences and got approved lol.
I started in lemmy.ml
Applied to beehaw, deleted my account, then joined again lol
But I think I’ll stay in lemmy.world.
Yeah same. I can feel myself becoming a Lemmy world patriot.
I wrote “bye reddit”
that actually makes sense
same :P
hehe but do you have a lemmy.ml account?
u.fail doesn't have the textbox either. I'm still waiting on Midwest.social to even get past the application page...
hope lemmy.ml won't defederate lemmy.world like beehaw did
ayy lmao
It does require an email.
I used a throwaway one, is that allowed? It still appears on my settings, and I wonder if they'll make me verify again when I won't be able to access the same throwaway account...
That's why I have an address just for this stuff. Never seen a use for a throwaway unless I'm gonna scam someone and I'm not doing that hahahh.
Only used for password resets as far as I know. Don't think you can change the email without it sending a verification again.
yeah, there are a few established, moderately large, sane instances that don't even require an email addy (sh.itjust.works being one of them). search and ye shall find.
For those having problems with applications, I think I remember having problems in the past due to .ml TLD often being blocked my mail servers, due to being used by SPAMmers and other evil-doers. Maybe those awaiting for a reply should look into the SPAM folder if they have one.
Also, essays aren't needed. You just have to show you aren't a bot or troll and actually want to be on the instance. 3 (three) or 4 (four) sentences in my experience should be enough.
As a lemmygrad user it really just took a one paragraph summary of myself to get in, not too hard and was approved I think within the hour. They just want to keep out the trouble makers and I've done WAY MORE for low pop discord servers so no biggie.
I never got the approval. I joined another instance.
Use chatgpt? I didn't make an account there because of their safe space bullshit
This entire post seems sus.
why?