The last time I saw a Wizard of id comic strip was in the early 70s.
Best case scenario to be sure.
For sure.
But tbf it's still a bold assumption that afte only a million years biodiversity would rebound to the point to support (mega)fauna like that again.
Hoping for the best.
oh no, more pro-extinction on lemmy, fun....
You need only look at how our species treats one another, despite claiming to know better, to understand why. Endless styles of cruelty of the many by the few in the name of greed, gluttony, power lust, and schadenfreude. The few voices of sanity and compassion assassinated, mowed down, blacklisted, and threatened into contrition. Literally destroying civilization pumping carbon shit into the air, fully aware of what we're doing, to continue stoking the ego scores of a handful of sociopaths.
If you're proud of our species, good for you. Take the bliss, Cypher
Are the horses a million years old or did humans go extinct recently and are they being snarky about it?
They are paleontologist supersmart-horses, many generations after their ancestors killed the last human.
They are also in a dome, decorated with a picture of mountains and a blue sky, that they set up to protect themselves from the remaining of the recent nuclear war.
Ha ha, no. In a million years, mankind would have paved the entire planet's surface, including the oceans. Our numbers would be in the hundred billions and most will live underground. The few elites would live on the uppermost levels and even have real gardens and plants. Wildlife would be extinct, save for a few robotic simulacra in the Imperial Zoo. Ironically, you would have to go to the Outer Colonies to see some animals that are extinct on Terra.
the cyberpunk 2077 universe just keeps looking more and more plausible every day, down to the corporate decisions and design
But that's just a few decades away
H.G. Wells would like a word. The Morlocks have some recipes to share.
An asteroid hit the earth and blanketed it in ash for ten thousand years, a force many times bigger than all the nukes humanity could ever hope to build, and life still thrived eons later. The Earth and nature doesn't need saving, we need saving.
Don't forget that we're still apart of the ecosystem and "nature" and subject to every single one of its laws, including the biggest one: adapt or die.
That's not even the worst one, before the dinosaurs a large volcano in What is now Siberia errupted, throwing Earth's climate into a catastrope, the oceans became stagnant and putrid, belching poisonous gases from anaerobic bacteria across the land and sea, an estimated 90% of all life on Earth was smothered by the event.
It's called the End Permian extinction and it's the closest life on earth has come to being snuffed out entirely. Though for some reason it's forgotten about a lot.
Wall-E irl
Good ending
A million years? That very generous (งツ)ว
I believe it's more like a hundred thousand years for humans on earth to go extinct, and another nine hundred thousand to clean the traces.
Whatever comes after us will be a consequence of us. Sort of like how all our modern bird species are echoes of the giant lizards of the crestatous period.
The world will never be "clean" of humanity's traces. No more than it is clean of trilobites that gave us all this limestone or the carboniferous plants that gave us coal and oil.
The future will be whatever species are most fit to live in the world we have created.
Or a hundred (not thousand) to become transhuman and have every short living species forget we existed.
(my regards to SkyNet, StarlinkNet, The Matrix, or whatever)
That's cute and all, but it ain't gonna be birds and deer who gets life off this rock once the Sun starts threatening to swallow it in a few billion years. We're screwing up badly in the short term, but we're the only hope Earth life has in the long term.
The heat death of the universe is inevitable anyway 🤷♂️
So? Death from old age is inevitable too, that doesn't mean I'm going to stop breathing or eating. All of life is just postponing the inevitable, but just because the inevitable is inevitable doesn't mean we should stop postponing.
If human beings were the only intelligent life in the universe, then the difference between being wiped out by the sun versus the heat death of the universe is so mind boggling big, that it beggars belief.
So many - near infinite - civilisations could come and go.
Perhaps one of them would find a way to endure.
Earth will become a molten blob in a few billion years... then over a billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion billion times later...
Whatever lives on Earth in a billion years from now, if it spreads out, will have a few billion times more billions of years to live.
You're assuming an eternal universe (as opposed to, e.g., a big crunch), which seems likely given the observed accelerating expansion of the universe.
I don't understand if this is sarcasm or if some people are actually that dense.
When the tectonic plates collide again to form another supercontinent, it will create enough heat to kill off most, if not all, mammals. And it will happen before the sun destroys everything, probably in around 250 million years or so.
eh, birds are already very intelligent. one of the species wil probably end up creating technology at some point (assuming all humans die without ending all life on earth)
There is enough time for another intelligent species to evolve after us, the problem is that we've already used up all the easily accessible fossil fuels. That means they won't have the energy sources necessary to have an industrial revolution and will be stuck at a pre-industrial tech level forever (or rather until the oceans boil off).
OK but then they'll fuck it up worse.
A thousand times this.
I've used this argument before arguing with hippies about "integrating with nature".
Any society that isn't on track to developing the science and engineering necessary for interstellar tavel is a dead end.
It's a tragic waste of human intelligence to keep making the same bamboo huts indefinetly.
So some noble savage can live their lives on repeat for hundreds or millenia, and that's somehow better than inventing an arc that can save every form of life on this unique Planet?
Bloody stupid hippy nonsense.
What makes life on another planet more worthwhile than life here? Also humans didn't take that long to evolve so there's plenty of opportunity for a successor to us to reach the stars in a way that causes less suffering. For that matter, we could have simply taken a couple hundred extra years to get there and reduced human suffering by like a thousandfold with a more equitable society. Bloody stupid capitalist nonsense.
What makes them 'savage'?
Amen, all those movies where "All tech stops working, people learn to do things for themselves! Utopia acheived!" are garbage
As individuals, a lot of people are content to live a simple life of prosperity. They have a basic job, and a small family, and some basic luxuries - and they call it enough. Some people have a one-eyed focus on increasing their wealth throughout their lives; but not everyone is like that. People generally recognise that their lives are finite. Some try to aim for some kind of imaginary high-score in their life, and others just live a 'normal' life.
I'm now making an analogy. As a species, we can recognise that are time is finite; and we can choose to live that out in a stable simple prosperity, where we just look after our world (house) and get what we need for some basic luxuries, and be content. We could have a billion years of that. It's a very long time. Or... we could aim for endless growth. We could consume as much as possible, and always aim for more. As we run out of resources and livable habitat on Earth, we must look to interstellar travel and spread to other planets. I don't necessarily think that is a better choice.
When I was young, I use to think that humans needed to settle on other planets. But I don't think that any more. Partially because I learnt about special relativity, and decided that unless we're very very wrong about science so far, having connected colonies on other planets is not possible. But also because I realised that there is no intrinsic goal to spread human life as much as possible. There are other things of value. We don't need that particular goal. I also use to think that personal immortality would be a good thing. I don't really think that any more.
"why does this grass taste like plastic?"
Not that they know what plastic is but ya know.
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In the year one million and a half/
Humankind is enslaved by giraffes/
They will pay for all their misdeeds/
When the treetops are stripped of their leaves!
Of course, the year one million and a half is a mere 997,977 years from now. And 996,990 years from when they used the time machine.
This made me think of the time machine song from Futurama. https://youtu.be/LE1drY3A418
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I would have also accepted:
“What are humans?”
Do you think humans became extinct, transferred into computers, moved onto other corners of the universe, or became the horses?
Growing up, I wanted to believe humanity could become like the humans of the Federation.
The reality is, we are significantly morally inferior to the Ferengi.
The Ferengi became warp capable before they allowed women to wear clothes. I think you're underselling us.
Between climate change and nuclear proliferation, I think extinction is what I'd put my money on.
Yes.
We have way too much hubris about how we're going about life. Acting like we own nature, and we aren't actually a part of the ecosystem. And we have an existential crisis with climate change on our hands, and we're basically doing fuck all about it.
In fact, we are increasing oil production in many places right now. Probably the dumbest thing people will look back on when there's no more oil and climate change is in full swing. Why didn't we try harder to change course when we had a chance?
Because people could make money by not changing course.
(But you knew that...)
For some reason I read this comic with voices from asdfmovie
Image Transcription:
A four-panel War and Peas comic.
The first panel shows two horse-like creatures standing in a field, munching on grass. Text in a yellow box at the top of the panel reads "One Million years from now...". Palm-like trees with yellow leaves and mountains are in the background. The creature on the left is brown and the creature on the right is grey. The text "Munch Munch" are over the brown creature.
The second panel shows the brown creature with its head raised up and a concerned look on its face, saying "Hey. Remember humans?"
The third panel shows the grey creature now with its head raised up, the background of nature has been replaced by an orange background, which is lighter in a circle around the area of the panel where the creature's head and speech bubble are. The grey creature is saying "No."
The fourth panel is a slightly zoomed in version of the first panel with the onomatopoeic munching text moved over the grey creature's head.
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You should mention that the first panel says "One million years from now..."
Wow, can't believe I forgot to put that part. Thanks for catching it!
The sad thing is, if we want life as we know it (that includes horses happily munching on grass) to continue existing, humans are it's only shot.
It might be edgy and cool to wish humanity would go instinct, but with it, potentially all life will go instinct.
I mean not really once costal areas flood and the locations best for growing food change we will see massive issues with humanity surviving, the rest of the ecosystem would adapt, migrate and evolve to survive. Hell even chernobyl basically shows us even if we went the full nuclear option wildlife would bounce back better than before with just maybe shortened life expectancies. We are a lot more prone to die from changes than the wildlife on this planet is.
I think you're underestimating our ability to save our own asses through technology.
Even if all the soil for growing food goes to crap, we can just engineer food crops that can grow in that soil. Hell, NASA has a research project exploring how to grow crops in moon (Or maybe it was martian) soil. Humans are one of the most adaptable species, because if natural processes are too slow we can just augment it through our technological prowess.
Short term, yes, no question. But long term (a million years and beyond) we look at different challenges life on earth will face.
It's a fact that it won't simply continue existing indefinitely. And definitely not in the diversity we know now. It's not likely for rabbits or another species to suddenly rise up to the task of inventing space travel. That would need way more time than what it takes for earth to be hit by an asteroid big enough so that life won't bounce back. The same goes for other types of mass extinction. Only humans have at least a slight chance to make life endure beyond earth.
🎶 We are a fluke
of the universe.
We have no right to be here.
And whether we can hear it or not,
The universe
is laughing behind our backs. 🎶Deteriorata! I love that "song!"
Thanks a loot, I didn't known it !
You'll see it's all a show
Keep 'em laughin' as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you!
All Tomorrows mantelopes last cohearant thoughts after slowly losing their sapience with each generation.
Also, what all the humans are saying about the extinct species since we took over
Can't wait
We had it coming
That's part of the idea of the book "City" by Simak
Hu... what?
Imagine thinking they will even have the ability to recognize or track the history of humans after a million years
It's a comic strip.
That's not funny
This is the dream of human haters. Me, on the other hand, I would say we would be colonizing the galaxy, right after we tell every communist to shut the fuck up, so that we can continue building our civilization without lazy fatties asking for free stuff.
I see Decompose is still speedrunning negative comment karma lmfao
As long as I see a bunch of human-hating, ignorant bunch of teenagers and bots playing with their heads, I'm on it ;-)
