When you notice Lemmy is quieter than usual, then have a look at the Lemmy.world status
When you notice Lemmy is quieter than usual, then have a look at the Lemmy.world status
Seems like they are under attack again, will those people never stop? I feel sorry for the admin team.
This is why we need users to spread to more servers and create communities in them. If lemmy.world goes down that shouldn't result in half of lemmyhub disappearing.
I’m more of a commenter and less of a poster, but I moved away from world as my primary instance last week. Part to spread the load, part to just be able to browse.
Commenting on your comment not because I expect you to have them or anything, it's just the top comment so hopefully someone sees this. I know there's a handful of links out there to browse instances. Are there any that can see who's defederated with who/ which instances are federated with the most instances? I had another account on a .ml domain instance but they got purged with a bunch of others a couple of weeks ago. I use my lemmy.world account because it has the most-ish reach for finding new communities and whatnot
You can have a look at my comment here: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292
Usually https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list is a good resource
Currently no, there isn't a way to see that granular of detail. On my instance I have details about any defederated (blocked) instances. Currently there are none.
But there are pros and cons of joining smaller server. Since mine is small we don't see a large list of communities, I make a point to go through and subscribe to a bunch everyday so my users can get the best experience. But without others doing some of the leg work it can be challenging. Bigger instances like lemmy.world have "seeded" with communities all over because of their large user base. Not only does lemmy.world have a ton of communities but their users have subscribed to communities outside the instance making it discoverable to others.
Unless you want to see porn or troll instances, I don't think there's a big difference between instances except for the fact that beehaw isn't federated with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works
Glad I'm realizing this before getting too attached to any one account. Setting up on a few instances now.
There's a posposal for an automatic user distribution system (original post here: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726). Showing support for it would be a big help!
And it's back up again! Kudos to the team!
Down again it seems. People seriously need to switch away from lemmy.world. Every single time it goes down so much content goes down with it. It's annoying.
I did this early on after realizing my mistake, promptly moved to vlemmy.net which after a couple weeks went totally mia.
Moved again... It's a toss-up though. I want an instance big enough to stay updated, and have an active community, but not turn into .world or vlemmy.
It's working now. Indeed, I hope they will.
I recommend people move away from Lemmy.world. Having ~28% of Lemmy users on a single instance is not good for the health of Lemmy overall.
For those that want to move to a different instance, here is a link to Lemmy instances sorted by user count: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
We're not allowed to have nice things.
Thankfully, other instances are still up and allow us to talk about it.
Back in the days, when Reddit or Twitter were down, it was down for the whole userbase.
Nice things cost money and I don't have it. So, checks out.
The company running lw are asking for free unpaid 150k+a year admin work.
Fuck them. Someone run this personally and start a non profit.
Lots of options besides the one instance.
Those guys can't catch a break. By whom or why are they getting attacked anyway?
Probably by some ground against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.
This single post :
https://lemmy.world/post/2874044
https://lemmy.ca/post/2904207
...has a comment from an hexbear user who thinks this is very funny. (hidden from here because we defederated them)thats not communism, thats red painted bullshit. please DO ~defederate from whatever the hell that is.~ remove trolls using false flags.
my idiot self's old comment
within these people are a sort of poison, one that entrenches them in their symbols and attack others with pride, like an idiot. the (alt? and regular?) right uses these losers and their corrupted ideas and flag clutching as ammunition (for example, against Trans folk).Edit: I was using a hammer when i nedded a scalpel. Generally dont like my rant written in anger. To be clear, Waving a communist or trans flag and then being a narcisist in public. It is either a false flag or an idiot. Result is a useful addition to a news media's hyperreality.Edit: i am REALLY unhappy with this comment, i fail by leaving whats implied unsaid. A natural observer given a big name like CNN saying things is always at risk of treeting the whole movement like a tom and jarry cartoon. Antifa usually gets a bad reputation, is it warrented? I dont know because the news is designed to let you make short and usually wrong assumptions. One commenter was right, you fight the news by looking out the window and seeing the negbors arent loonitics and in fact rather lovely.Edit: i am still REALLY unhappy with this comment, also spelling I cant really speak on these issues as I need guidance more than answers. I have been told to not worry about the propaganda machine (my old and current psychological trap) and to rather be free of it and to free others by showing them a better place. I was merely dragging people into the machine I sought to destroy. for this I am sorry.
Understandable since one is a government funded :fedbposting: psyop running on servers in the basement of the FBI building. The other is Reddit.
Ayyyyyyy.
Was the joke. If you take that as proof that that user and hexbear as aggregate are responsible you might need to breath a bit and do learn to be more critical of media. People making jokes about you(r misfortune) aren't always out to get you.
dot world having a harder time with de federating Fascist propaganda (exploding heads and alike, while keeping their users) than with pre emptively doing a US centric Red scare and McCarthyism is quite funny and something the intelligence agencies of the US had in their hand books for over half a century. It is also often the action of liberals who think civility is more important that positive justice.
However lets say a piece or two about @[email protected], they are close to conspiracy thought sometimes.
Join “Lemmy.world” ; here you can create your own communities 🙂
Respect and thanks to the creators of lemmy-software, pretty sure they have friends (states) with big pockets 😆 !
Yeah, cause FOSS means evil communist governments secretly funding open source software.
They also regularly lie and misconstrue what people say.
All in all the user is a good example how liberal moderation policy (or the lack of them) leads to gray and black propaganda and spheres that are not emancipatory.
Man hexbear is such a shit show. When chapotraphouse was a sub I was on there near 24/7 for like 2 years, and it was the best online experience I've ever had. Then they migrated over to hexbear and it's like only the worst, most self righteous people from the community moved over. I'm literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin, and I got called a reactionary and told to kill myself and then a mod agreed with them and banned me for a week over a blatantly pro trans comment that apparently wasn't pro trans in the right way. Like it literally said "trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their body, I don't care, it doesn't effect me" and like 5 people were like "you 'don't care' about trans people? Do the world a favor and fucking kill yourself, you're literally butchering trans comrades with your comment"
I saw a comment that mentioned there was a user that was creating tons of communities and squatting on them. That user was called out and banned and they might be behind it. But its all rumours. Does anyone have more details on this rumour?
Probably by some group against the Fediverse or lemmy specifically.
It's been this way for weeks, actually. I haven't seen a graph of the uptime, but I'm sure one would look extremely ugly, based on my own user experience.
This right here is an alt, and despite the fact that I don't prefer to comment from it, since I won't necessarily check in soon to see replies, it's seeing some heavy use.
The attacks a few weeks ago weren't a one-off, they never stopped. It seems down maybe half the time or so?
One of the many ways we (all of Lemmy) are not quite ready for the mainstream yet, we still have basic technical/security issues to resolve. Soon, though.
88% on weekly basis https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
96.4 uptime
Isn't it 88 based on their own status page? https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
What does not kill you, makes you stronger. The only thing these script kiddies are doing is strength training the world admins.
Yeah fucking up uptime during a period people are looking to migrate away from an ingrained product is definitely the path to a successful and strong network. Just like asking for unpaid admins (typically $100-200 an hour) to price on call duty for free.
What you are seeing is a business cheap out, have zero clue or plan about scale, not give two fucks about privacy, and trick you all into giving that business a free pass for being shitty and execute poorly.
This isn't making shit stronger. It means normies will always make sure this place is the new 4chan.
What the fuck to literally all of this
It was always going to happen but an instance being the defacto default for Lemmy is a bad thing.
There really needs to be a tool to help people pick an instance, but even then people would just flock to the general instances like .world anyway
I also think instances just need to have more sane urls. It sounds silly but like it or not branding does matter. Instances like beehaw and sh.itjust.works just rub me the wrong way during first impressions. Even some of my friends who I've tried to introduce to Lemmy are just like..."what the fuck kinda website are you making me go to?" I am not surprised that lemmy.world is big, partly because the URL actually sounds official.
We also need super-communities that pull in content from multiple communities/instances, better multi-instance search, and a way to migrate between instances before the masses will be okay with smaller instances.
Sound like you should join the dev team as an idea person, I support you
beehaw and sh.itjust.works just rub me the wrong way during first impressions
They're pretty descriptive: do you want a place to "behave", or would you rather fling shit at each other?
This isn't Reddit, you get to pick your experience. Can even sign up to more than one instance, each with different rules!
We also need super-communities that pull in content from multiple communities/instances
Apps do that, including some web app.
Search and migrations could be improved, though.
Myself and another developer are working on something we think will solve this:
OP: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726 TLDR: Automatic User Distribution
Whenever someone goes to the sign up page, for example, on Lemmy.world, we:
- look at the recommender list
- find the server that is most under capacity
- have a very large iframe with "Sign up for Lemmy (using [under capacity server here])"
- have a small "No, I want to sign up specifically on Lemmy.world" option
Would also be cool to have like a short questionnaire, like picking your class in Morrowind, but instead you end up on a German industrial metal music instance.
It makes sense that general purpose instances would have the most users. I'm not a programmer so while I could still register there why would I pick programmer.dev?
The bigger issue I had in picking an instance was just in understanding the differences. I think it would help if instances advertised their stance on defederation, moderation, etc... to help people make a decision (or even to see that lemmy.world may be more similar to some other instances than they might think).
multiple accounts, one macro, one micro, works wonders. i like my lemm.ee account more but lemmy.world was my gateway as it was the one advertised to me
I'm not going to pretend to understand the technical details, but would it make more sense if Instances were treated more like subreddits? So instead of the main Lemmy.world instance, we'd have gaming.world, news.world, nsfw.world, woodworking.world, and so on. So then things would be distributed more evenly across the fediverse and it would be harder for a single for a DDOS attack to take out the entire system all at once? Or does the architecture of the whole thing not make any sense doing it like that? Would each instance then have to setup their own server or something to make it work?
I guess the community names could be subdomains, the default config would pass all the subdomains to the same Lemmy process. But this would make it easier to split things up down the road, and you could move some of those sub domains to different servers entirely.
Not sure if it's worth rearchitecting things like this now, probably better to just close signups and disallow creating new communities on overloaded instances like lemmy.world
Each instance is it's own server, then it has many communities which are created by users. Ideally we spread the communities across instances, but unfortunately most of the big communities are clustered on the big instances, because finding communities on small instances is hard.
lemmy.world has been so unstable for that I decided to switch to another instance. That's the beauty of the Fediverse though.
I setup my own Uptime Kuma Monitor for lemmy.world just for fun.. the statistics are crazy
Oof that's brutal. Didn't realize it was that bad.
There's a lot of small instances wanting to become medium/big instances and share the load, but people need to show a bit of initiative and join them. I just made this account, and here's a list of a few other small servers with room to spare. YMMV but these all look pretty solid at a glance.
I keep hearing about people switching, but is it just registering a new account at another instance? I joined world but would gladly jump instances to something more stable.
Hey, sorry for the late reply.
You can either look at https://join-lemmy.org/ or https://lemmyverse.net/ to find a new instance.I also found this tool that helps you to sync communities you're subscribed to to other accounts on other instances: https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
Edit: I found another migration tool which has a GUI, haven't tested it yet though. https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Enjoy your new instance
Thanks!
Does the colored bar on top have a measure?
I think it’s an hour but I’m not really sure. They are the most recent pings.
Its really unfortunate. Im working on setting up my own personal instance right now. Im really grateful for all the work Lemmy.world has done, but im just getting tired of not being able to use Lemmy maybe 1/8th of the time I open the app.
Just a +1 for decentralized social media. The fact that I can just set up my own instance when im not 100% happy with the one im currently on is awesome.
Right, and thats the issue. I host an instance but we only have a few users. Our instance does run very very well though because we don't get a ton of user traffic.
Enjoy!
I think lemmy.world is too large for the health of the fediverse. A nasty incident which takes it down permanently could "kill" Lemmy as a whole. Perhaps a sign up stop is in order.
I moved to a different instance about a month ago, after lemmy.world got hacked. I haven't had any issues on Midwest.social. I suggest other people do the same if they want Lemmy to be feasible in the long term. Get the fuck off Lemmy.world.
Here is a list of instances sorted by user count if anyone wants to move: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
Thanks for the link
So are you recommending to switch instances and not interact with lemmy.world and its users? I don't get this, what's the point of something getting popular if you can't interact with it? So those that got in early get to be here while others have to start from scratch?
And what happens if you have a question and your instance has 10 users, while world has 3000?
Attitudes like this are much worse for the health of the Fediverse, IMO.
A popular instance with users and content? Kill it immediately, we can't risk people actually using the Fediverse.
The fact is, lemmy.world's size is already actively harming the fediverse and it's quite annoying. No one said to "kill it" just stop it from growing even more
Instead of blocking sign-ups we can have Lemmy's sign up automatically recommend other servers.
Another developer and I already have a PR in development for it.
Here's the idea in more detail: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726
Wonderful compromise, love it. Thank you.
I agree, but they plan on making a message on the sign up screen encouraging users but not stopping sign up so... 🤷♂️
without user friction (in this case, a thing that prevents a user from agreeing without reading a textbox with a link to join another lemmy instance, even if its by the same people) its pointless
Are they suffering DDOS attacks? They might need something like Cloudflare to combat this. Maybe some kind of reverse-proxy if the attack isn't super massive.
Already running Cloudflare.
Ah shite.
“Always Online” ™️
That doesn't really work for logged in users though, right?
The current issue is actually an ongoing DB issue. It's not solely affecting LW.
Yes. My instance will sometime have unusual high load and it will overload the cpu unless restarted. 0.18.3 doesn't seems to fix it, and it only affect some instance but not all. It's hard to pinpoint what cause the loop to happen.
sh.itjust.works to the rescue
Yuh
Lemmy.world Is down, but Lemmy as a whole is still up and running. This is why I like the fediverse
It's getting really annoying. Is there an mobile friendly way to migrate my account from lemmy.world to lemmy.zip?
Unfortunately, I don't think there is anything on mobile yet. The best tool for this is LASIM on desktop.
Hello,
Hm, I'm afraid at this moment the most common solution is https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim, which requires a computer. Would you be able to get access to one at some point later?
Status page: https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
Hopefully more will join smaller instances.
They want to put out the fire. Let us show them the strength of the Hydra. Cut off one head and a thousand more shall take its place. We all remember what happened when they tried to end the piratebay.
it's been a rough two days, but I see a clearing in the sky 😋 !
Let's hope it lasts!
Exactly for that reason I have created a second account on lemm.ee.
There is even a nice Python script to propagate your subscriptions and block lists to one or more other accounts.
Find it here: https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
Here's another GUI tool that I used to migrate to my current instance. Kudos to both devs!
Great alternative! Thanks!
I did the same thing. Based off comments like this though it kinda seems like lemm.ee may turn into a lemmy.world 2.0.
Yeah who are these fucks? Whats their damage? Somebody oughta go knock some sense into them
This single post :
https://lemmy.world/post/2874044
https://lemmy.ca/post/2904207
...has a comment from an hexbear user who thinks this is very funny.
(hidden from here because we defederated them)
I need another instance so I can lurk when this happens.
If it's just for lurking, look for a small one to help spread the load.
Try the one I'm on if your into sci-fi or fantasy
+1 to this. Imho it's not good for lemmy as a whole if people are concentrated on a few large instances. Any time one of those major instances experience issues, the effect is going be major.
Hey, good to see you here! I always like your posts on [email protected]ity
I decided to make on on Lemm.ee. Seems pretty cool!
That's why I created this lemm.ee account. It seemed silly just waiting for lemmy.world to come back up all the time. That's the beauty of the Fediverse. 😁
Performance is also overall better via other instances. We were hesitant about migrating /r/android given the LW downtimes but ended up doing so when Cole offered us a place on lemdro.id. Awesome uptime and great performance thus far with his scaling solution - keeps costs low as well.
The more decentralized, the better!
Have a look at here to know how to find one: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292
I would love to try a new instance but then I have to recreate a rather large block list.
Is there a way to copy your block list from one instance to another?
And for a CLI version, there's lemmy_migrate.
Feels like this should be a core part of Lemmy, like just export and import a big string of data.
Well this is truly amazing. Thank you, Blaze
You can also create an alt on kbin and subscribe to Lemmy communities there. I'm posting this from kbin.social.
Hi from my alt. I just have like 4 alt accounts I switch between.
Same here, even a bit more I think
Seems down again https://lemmy-status.org/, testing if I can see this comment from other instances
They are doing their best, but the users can help by spreading out to smaller instances. It's also much better for the fediverse as a whole to have many smaller instances instead of a few giant ones.
Maybe you want to join http://lemmy.today? It's located in Oregon (western USA) and is literally never down. I know since I'm addicted to Lemmy and I'm on it all the time now... :)
Also who doesnt like that cute little Lemmy icon it has. :) Looks like a very surprised lemming, or very happy one...
Cute icon indeed!
I remember talking to you about it a few days ago, has the admin clarified the redundancy question?
He is more than open to having several admins :) He is a Linux devops guy who is doing consulting in the area. It makes sense to have several admins due to the "bus factor" or what we shall call it.
Just have to find someone willing to help out. You know anyone?
Okay done. I'll give the instance a try and see how it goes. :)
Cool, call me when you arrive.. :)
I have like four different instances I'm using with accounts on each. I'm not sure the best route but feel like I should only have one or two accounts. Probably will keep the four for now just to see which instances seem most reliable. I'll try and keep this one in the back of my mind in case I need another instance though :)
In my experience lemmy.world and reddthat go down a decent amount, especially the latter.
Yeah I am gonna try out a few different ones and see how it goes. Luckily its decentralized to an extent so I can just use my list of written down communities
Just another day..
Seems down again https://lemmy-status.org/
Well, I just created two alt accounts on sh.itjust.works and jlai.lu, copying my subscriptions with lemmy_migrate. Not too difficult, but we definitely need a simpler way to login into different servers...
Oohhh, that is why sometimes browsing to world gives me cuckflare error.
I know they suck at keeping your data safe, I know they are a monopoly, but... thats an odd choice of words
Downvoted for use of "cuck" - I don't know anything about you, but your word choice causes me to have angry feelings toward you.
As always, previous comment/post in a similar situation: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292
You would think we all learned our lesson once Vlemmy broke
