Your point is also the point of the comic: saying that you've rubbed dry paper on your butthole and that makes it "clean" is analagous to getting poop on your hands and doing the same.
You wash your hands; you should also wash your butt: so get a bidet.
Because your ass does literally nothing else all day, but your hands touch things like food etc. I'd say it was more like getting shit on your leg. Do you wipe it off or just wait until you next have a shower?
That said I love the idea of bidets, I'm just terrified it'll get my underwear and clothes wet while being cold and unpleasant.
I'm from the US. While I have travelled to locales where they are commonplace, I never actually tried one. When lockdown and the tp crisis started, however, I purchased one online. I now hate having to use any lavatory that doesn't have a bidet.
Q - Doesn't it feel weird? A - No. Some people are worried that it may feel sexual. It doesn't. It's just a localized shower on your ass, which is something you hopefully do regularly.
Q - Won't it just push detritus away from the epicenter and make a mess? A - It can, if the bidet has narrow spray. Mine does this. Just do a quick shimmy that makes the jet draw a decreasing radius spiral.
Q - Doesn't everything get wet? A - Some bidets have air dryers, but in the absence of, yes. Keep tp in the lav to address this. The quick wipe to address this still saves a ton of tp.
I should clarify that I live in a remote area where a lot of people are homophobes. Anything directed towards one's ass is, as the kids would say, sus af to these folks.
All well and good until a guest uses your bathroom and then comments on the thoughtfulness of you setting up that container of damp facecloths for them to freshen up with.
Also South East Asia - bucket of water with a plastic cup next to the hole in the floor.
I don't have a problem dribbling water down my buttcrack with my right hand while scrubbing my clacker valve with my left hand, but squatting over a hole in the floor is hell on the knees when you are nearly 2m tall.
There are about a million people here all saying the same thing. It’s amazing, it’s better than you think, and once you use one, you will never ever go back.
It’s all true. When you poop in a public restroom or at a friends house without one, you will feel tainted.
In the winter if you’re worried about cold water, you should know the anus is not very temperature sensitive. I suppose because in our evolutionary past we did not use our anus much to sense the temperature of objects.
As someone who born to a country where a bidet is the norm and migrated to a country which doesn't have it. We start to use wet wipes and believe me when I say it a bidet is way way way better. So I bought an attachment. Now I can't use any other toilet except that one.
But, in my opinion, it is not a 100% replacement for toilet paper. First, everything gets wet after using-and if you're hairy like me you really do want to dry it, and I use TP to do that. Also, I've noticed that it doesn't always get everything-and using some TP to dry off is also a good way to make sure everything is clean.
And it also has a good bit of spray that will land on the seat and the bidet itself. You need to clean that off, I tend to do it with toilet paper when I stand up.
You won't stop using TP, but you'll certainly use less of it, I think I use about half as much now as before.
Yeh, same after we installed ours. Doesn't replace the paper but we sure buy a LOT less. Also it just feels cleaner. I hate using the bathroom at other peoples' houses now x.x
You should be able to get everything with technique, adjusting it, or simply running it longer. I had the same issue initially but it's since been resolved. I fold a few squares of TP to clean up any water on back of seat and pat myself dry but that could easily be replaced with towels. I use way less TP too.
To be clear I'm definitely using less TP, but my point is that I still have to use it- and a lot of times when posts about bidets come up, they're talked about as a 100% replacement to TP, which they aren't.
Usually if it hasn't gotten everything I just run it longer and with a bit stronger flow.
I mean at least in Europe when you use a bidet you use soap and then still dry a few times with tp. These contraptions are good to soften the ass crud but you'll still need to wipe it off with tp.
I got a Tushy classic bidet a year ago. It is amazing! For anyone out there that uses more toilet paper than you think you should, gets a raw bum from wiping, or wants to get three times cleaner, a bidet is for you. I'm a dude, but also my wife loves it. Honestly, one of the best purchases per dollar I have ever made and one that reminds me daily.
If you got poop on your hands, what do you think will get you cleaner? Couple of wipes with toilet paper or rinsing in the sink with water.
Being fairly hairy, a bidet is absolutely one of the top 5 things I miss whenever I come home to the UK from Finland. My dad did some work in Abu Dhabi last year and has also been converted to team bidet, so hoping he installs one before I move up to his, it makes a huge difference.
I honestly have no idea why bidets haven't taken off in the US. After travelling to other countries though, had to buy one for my home toilet. And now I hate having to poop elsewhere where there's no bidet.
Please God, I beg you all to do this.
I mean no disrespect to y'all at all.
I have been using a bidet/health faucet/Jet spray all my life. I was so shocked and disgusted when I found out people in the west used toilet paper 🤢🤢
I've used toilet paper a few times in emergencies and I've regretted it everytime. The difference between water and paper in cleaning your butt is so vast.
Imagine you got poop on your arm and decided to wipe it away with toilet paper. You know there's still poop on it. The same thing goes for your butt. Clean your butt!
My girlfriend loves the bidet. You will not spray poop up into your bits but I get your concern. We also have a dial, on ours, to change the angle to vagina-mode. Great for periods, allegedly, but it blasts me in the balls if I don't notice.
The water is not pulled from the bowl, it's fed from the same pipe your tank pulls from. They're great, but if your water is cold, well you have to brace yourself.
Honestly, I thought I was pretty clean before getting a bidet, but since getting one I can never go back without feeling gross. It's weird what we can get used to, when that's just how you've done things your whole life.
Many People here are very hesitant to try one out.
They have some weird thing about butts & water. And shooting water onto ones butt. Its like they consider it overtly sexual and therefore weird and european.
Once people try it out they usually like it.
But the honest truth is: most americans walk around all day with dirty butts.
Nobody has it, so people don't see/experience them to to change their minds.
Having said that, I tried it once on holiday. It only got rid of half the 'residue', so I'm not really convinced enough to spend money on one. Another issue is that the reservoir and pipes are hidden behind a tiled wall. Installing one isn't going to be a 5 minute job.
The one I have has a dial to adjust how fast the water comes out. Sometimes I need a gentle whisper of water, othertimes I need my butthole power washed.
You can get ones where the valve is metered so you can open it a little for low power or sightly more for more water. I always wipe once after using it mine, which keeps things dry, but I ain't never had to wipe twice.
Yeah, that's the kind that my parents got at their house. Like I said it's either too much, or it doesn't seem to clean, to me it felt like there was no inbetween.
Got one for Christmas and it had been a revolutionary improvement for my pooping life. Now every time I travel or have to poo in public I spend the whole time pouting and thinking wistfully about my bidet at home.
Scored myself a bidet during that TP shortage at the beginning of COVID lockdown and it’s been a game changer. Get one because your butt will especially thank you after a spicy Thai or Indian night. Spicy poo and mud butt? What are those?
ok.....I'm intrigued. I've actually been using my kid's baby wipes because really, anything is better than dry TP. Looking at some options on Costco, seems the cheapy is just a hand-held thing for $80, then the seat-integrated ones are around $300 and up. Is the seat integration worthwhile? What about water temp? Is it basically a cold-shot to the butthole? That'll wake me up, no doubt.
I got mine on Amazon, it's integrated into the seat, as in it is a toilet seat with a built-in bidet. It has two settings, for b-holes and lady bits. $100. It only does cold water, but it's not as bad as you expect. You get used to it quick.
Check out Samodra. It's cheap and works wonderfully. I've been using mine for a long time. It's cold water but it's really not as big of a deal as I thought it'd be. I can't speak to seat integration which I've never tried.
I installed 1 bidet about 3 months before the height of the toilet paper shortage in 2020. Got used to it and recommended to everyone. I got installed another right as stores sold completely out of toilet paper. I do not feel clean without it.
Alternatively, installing a faucet near the toilet and placing bucket and dipper (locally it's tabo) is great. Common in the Philippines, Malaysia and Indonesia (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabo_(hygiene))
I've used a bidet my whole life, then i moved to a european country where that's not a thing anywhere, and since i sublet i cant make big plumbing changes etc so i carry portable bidets with me and enjoy my wash and wipe lifestyle wherever i go. They are a few bucks on any online store
I have a fancy Japanese one, heated, variable pressure, wash and blow dry. It's dry, no poop in there after it's done. Adding it was like changing the toilet seat, except you have to plug it in to wall power.
It truly is life changing. A roommate received one as a gift in college. We soon fitted the other bathroom with a bidet as well because it was too good.
Alright look, I swear I'm not just trying to be nasty. But poo always seemed to be......greasy.....to me. Shooting water at it seems equivalent to cleaning up oil with plain water - it just moves it around. Am I way off with this line of reasoning?
I can't really say that I've ever felt particularly "unclean" after using just TP. But I might just give this bidet thing a try. Maybe I've been missing out all this time.
Legit, if you have enough fat in your stool for it to feel greasy, that may be steatorrhea, which may be a symptom of some underlying condition.
Or, it could just be too much fat in your diet. Most of the time, that's what it is, just not being well balanced in terms of fats vs fiber and carbs. Surprisingly, vegetarians are more prone to it than meat eaters in my experience, because meat eaters tend to eat their meat with different foods than vegetarians use to keep their protein intake right. So the vegetarians end up not realizing the fats they're taking in.
Varies a good bit though since some meat eaters don't actually eat enough of the other things to keep it balanced out.
Anyway, point is that everything comes down to poo.
I also tried it once with the focused setting on a shower head and it was just a mess. It goes everywhere, but doesn't get rid of it properly. And in the end you end up with a dirty wet ass that you still have to wipe. I also feel that the toilet bowl does not offer enough space if you have one with a shelf, add a big dump to that and you'd have to poke it with the bidet.
Do you all have an electric outlet by your toilet to get heated water already? I'm interested in trying it out in my house, but don't want to run electric for it.
Do you all have an electric outlet by your toilet to get heated water already? I'm interested in trying it out in my house, but don't want to run electric for it.
I’m sticking with my baby wipes + waste basket method until I need to replace the toilet entirely. My space is kind of small so storing all of these accessories is a pain.
Once I need to upgrade, I will upgrade to one of those Japanese toilets with the built in bidet system
You'd want one with front feminine wash and has warm water.
It's the same philosophy with what's wrong with wiping your ass with tee pee, wiping still leaves a large amount around and in there, but instead of your asshole, it's the privates.
The bonus is that if you're really having a bad time on the toilet, the spray gets it out. Same thing for the front. Gets it all out.
If that isn't enough, the warm feeling of the water should be really comforting.
If all else fails, a heated seat will do it.
I'm a guy though, so I can't really vouch how effective that wash is.
Do they make any that don't take up the rear 3/4 of the seat? I'm interested in getting one but with the standard round toilet you lose a lot of real estate. I don't want my poops to look like they've been squeezed through a playdough extruder or worry about missing my target in an emergency situation.
It's a 10 minute job for a non plumber and I tell you it's SO much better than wiping. A quick gentle wipe to dry, and it only takes one or two, and very little TP. Once you get used to it that is. I hate going anywhere else now, as I find it so comfortable.
For a bidet attachment like tushy it's just shut off the water, flush to drain toilet, remove seat, attach bidet and use the hose splitter for the water, and put seat back on over the bidet attachment.
I've installed a bidet attachment as a renter. Make sure you use plumbers tape and, after your install, leave a piece of paper under the installation overnight to make sure it's not leaking. When you leave, uninstalling is pretty easy.
After going to Japan, I ordered a genuine Toto washlet (warm water, heated, drying, all sort of goodies) and gave it to my wife for Christmas.
It's her favourite Christmas gift ever, even after almost a decade. The only gift that still gets daily use :). We had a problem with it a few years back and sent to the North American service centre. Flat rate for a complete refurbish. Awesome!
In italy we had one but used it to wash our junk when we didn't have time to take a shower. Never even thought about using it after shitting. My mom taught me it was a vagina washing sink.