Between this and Gaza (and everything else), I really honestly don't think we have seen a person in all of human history who checks more boxes of being the antichrist.
Like fuck, he literally brings pestilence and disease with him.
This is it popping off. We've already lost a huge portion of chickens in the US. We're seeing dozens of cases in humans. And it's in cows too. The only reason it doesn't feel like a big deal is because we as a nation aren't doing anything about it yet, only individual farms are. Same way COVID went from "is this a big deal?" to "oh fuck shut everything down".
The big event will be someone with regular human flu getting bird flu, giving the virus opportunities to swap DNA segments. If it gets the transmissibility of our standard influenza and the lethality of bird flu, it'll be a rough six months to a year before we have vaccines for it as it rips through our population.
Especially considering flu vaccines are made with eggs, and this disease is currently thoroughly decimating our egg producing livestock.
The problem is that the CDC isn't getting to say anything right now, so we can assume that the moment they get to talk about it, the stupidest people you know are going to go "woah this was really sudden! They clearly made it in a lab!"
The little boy who called bird flu, but I think the call here is that it is difficult to feel safe behind the idea that it does not cross the species barrier when you have bird flu in cows.
Unfortunately people will just think "Hey I've seen this bird flu in the news and it didn't seem bad." Then they ignore all virologist recommendations and we have a second pandemic.
If we could get enough people to stop eating animal products at the same time, it would simultaneously lower their personal risks of infection, the risks of another pandemic, and it could hit the animal ag industries hard - who are some of the largest funders of the gop.
I love the enthusiasm but the movement would immediately be labelled as woke and a lot of people would start eating more animals just to “own the libs”
Nah, we just need to lean into their toxic male fragility. Remind them it's super gay to have some animal's meat in their mouth. So juicy it slides right down your throat. Yeah, you enjoy that beef on your tongue, you slut?
If we really pushed that message, Joe Rogan would be vegan within a week.
The people who would do that would be putting themselves at greater risk when the next pandemic does break out. That's their problem - especially if they've been informed on everything they can do to help and protect themselves.
There is also a reputed new cat-to/from-human transmission vector for H5N1, which was briefly noted in a CDC report last week before being redacted: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/06/health/cdc-bird-flu-cats-people.html . NYT article may be paywalled, but details can be found in other media sources as well.
in the beginning yes, but as the virus mutates, the variant that spreads quicker will also be less deadly. like with covid too. not that it isn't dangerous now, but it was far deadlier in the early stages.
I'd be more than willing to build special warehouses for the unvaccinated manned by doctors and midwives with tons of knowledge about holistic medicine and essential oils, get them out of real hospitals
I read somewhere that the previous Trump administration did make some policy decisions based on the belief that those on the left would be disproportionately impacted by covid. But do not underestimate how inept and incompetent Trump is also.
Make an effort to be healthy, and keep updated with flu vaccines. Moderna recently received funding for developing h5n1 vaccines, so keep an eye on that. And don't wait - you never know what stupid things Trump might do to suppress vaccine access.
Oh man, my comment wasn't totally serious but totally based on fear. I guess that's exactly how conspiracies start. If my rhetorical-turned-accidental-theory turns out to be right, I'm gonna be super-bummed.
I think it's human nature to "look for a reason" but ... these engineered virus narratives have never set well with me. It implies that the only way a pandemic could happen is if some person created it; that's incredibly self indulgent, "the only way man could die to nature is if man invented nature."
Viruses just happen; we've had a reprieve from major plagues and things and have been unusually healthy because vaccines and other advances in medicine allowed us to save many that would have otherwise died.
The only parts humans are playing in our current health crises are:
A) Increasing the number of unvaccinated people giving viruses once nearly killed off room to play again
B) Increasing the temperature of the planet which has been demonstrated to increase mutation rates and may release lost viruses trapped in ice and permafrost
C) Cutting down large swaths of the Amazon rainforests which may also harbor lost viruses
In all cases, we're not creating the problem directly, we're just giving the advantage back to nature that research from recent centuries gave to us.
Shit, I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought this virus was manufactured. Why would anyone need to manufacture a disease when you can just leave a brain-worm rapist to dismantle every safeguard until measles becomes an active issue again.
It's only takes 3% of the population who want to actively over throw a government for it to happen. And if you reduce the population, it makes it easier to get to 3%
Who's plan? The ketamine addicts or the pants shitter?
They aren't smart enough to develop a disease, but they are stupid enough to think that if they don't do anything about it, no one will notice (don't test for covid and the numbers will go down)