North Korean soldiers kill themselves to avoid capture in Ukraine, U.S. says
North Korean soldiers kill themselves to avoid capture in Ukraine, U.S. says
North Korean troops are being treated as “expendable,” ordered to take on “hopeless assaults against Ukrainian defenses,” National Security Council official John Kirby said.
Summary
The U.S. claims Russia is deploying North Korean soldiers in Ukraine, using them in “human wave” assaults against Ukrainian defenses.
North Korean soldiers are reportedly being treated as expendable, with some choosing suicide over capture due to fear of reprisal against their families.
Ukraine reports significant casualties among North Korean troops, with some allegedly killed by their own comrades to prevent capture.
They assume other countries treat POW's like NK does.
It's worse they're scared the government will go after their families. It's not fear for themselves.
it's both. they see no positive path to a positive outcome for anyone. and that's the point of the kind of terror regimes like north korea and russia implement. the more terror you keep a person under all the time, the easier it is to give them an apparent strong man who claims to deliver them from the terror he implements
Nah, they’re worried they’ll get sent back to NK
The US believed that communists invented mind control because POWs kept coming back as sympathizers.
Capture would be the best thing for them
The article claims that the likely motivation was to protect their families from reprisals.
It’s probably also dishonorable. Even if the regime didn’t do anything to their families the families still lost face. Can’t really go back to their families if they get captured and survive since that basically equals to cowardice and desertion. Japanese culture was like that during WWII. Current day NK culture has a lot of similarities with Japanese culture from before WWII. Like the honor thing and cult like emperor worship.
That's fine and dandy for them, but when their great great grandkids are born into prison camps, they may not view it as worth it. North Korea is fucked.
Yeah. Isn't it sad they buy into what ever shit is telling them it'd be the worst for them?
So sad being born north korean.
Just a life of suffering and servitude because you're surrounded by people who have been bred to be docile.
I want to show this to the next PMP who talks about "bringing on more resources to the project."
They’re probably under orders to do this. Very sad!
That's not why they're killing themselves, it's so they don't have to go back to NK.
Why would Ukraine send them back there? If NK wants them back, it'd probably be expensive...
fear of reprisal against their families.
These people must love their famlies, very admirable.
However, if it were me, I'd try to defect, no amount of "we'll torture your family" would stop me. My family is a bunch of abusers anyways, so this is just karma, I'll see how much they like to be on the receiving end of abuse.
Maybe you would, maybe your family is, but not everyone is in your situation.
Now imagine you knew nothing of the outside world and your only experience with it was a hostile one.
If we all lived under an NK like regime and half of all folks thought like you, we'd all be dead. What's worse is we've got to get down to at most 16% to have a sizeable number of survivors and that's assuming a single direct family line - I know NK laws include replicating punishment up and down two generations but I don't know if siblings, siblings by marriage, or cousins get included in that.
There's actually a strange amount of rebellion that policy creates - there's never a reason to report a family member - and the shared danger will usually develop pretty strong familial bonds.
Anyways, I'm fond of my family but I'd be pretty reluctant under any circumstances to cause the death of anyone else and I suspect most people who haven't been through something like military training are in the same boat.
Jesse what the fuck