It is so frustrating when a conspiracy narrative is mixed with valid criticism, which ultimately only taints the criticism by association with the "conspiracy."
Where did the bug eating talk start? I've not been offered any bugs since those grasshopper candies from Archie McPhee when I was a kid. Is it another dog whistle thing?
It's a far right conspiracy theory, that OP's trying to tie to legit criticism of the CIA's atrocities despite having nothing to do with each other-- all in order to try to hide the fact that it's literally part of the Great Replacement conspiracy.
I've seen some scientists talk about it, but not as a "mwahahaha, we're going to force these people to eat bugs!" kinda deal like some people seem to imply, but more just as a "this is more efficient for growing protein than traditional livestock, so there would be environmental benefits if we can persuade people to switch to it" sorta deal.
Frankly I feel like a lot of the discussion is kinda silly, advocating that there would be benefits if people try to replace some of their meat intake with insect protein is not the same thing as forcing people to eat bugs. The intention behind advocating that is not malicious, they don't mean just any old bugs but generally farm raised ones, and besides, people already eat bugs anyway. Plenty of cultures throughout the world have dishes involving them in various ways, and beyond that, even in the western countries that a lot of this discussion happens in to my knowledge, people eat very bug-like creatures all the time as long as those creatures live underwater. Shrimp for instance.
There's also been research into using insect protein as a meat substitute that's a lot less "weighty" than plant protein. Insects, pound for pound, require a lot less land, a lot less feed, and there's been some success in recombining them into other forms of meat, like Beyond Meat has been doing for plant proteins.
for me it's been since expo 2000 and I would be actually interested.
Crispy high protein snacks with a low ecological foot print?
shut up and take my money!
If you’re railing against being made to eat bugs yeah you’re a conspiracy theorist. They’re a perfectly fine meat replacement, though I’ll stick with beans like I think most people will want to
Sanity is not playing in to mainstream discourse anymore. The loonies are out and have been empowered. Best we can do is try to get them back on their meds and professional help.
Yeah that’s why I’ve not eaten land meat for over a year (I occasionally indulge in sustainable fish). I think one major barrier to people is they don’t get how fucking cheap and lazy you can be with meatless meals. And it’s not like I don’t miss meat but physically I’m in great shape, I’m healthy, I eat lazily, and my food is very good. Not much cooking is easier than throwing a can of beans into some water with taco seasoning, reducing it, and slapping it in a tortilla with your toppings of choice.
I ser by some of the comments here that the some of the reddit trolls found Lemmy.
That was too quick for my comfort.
Insects as food, while something that is being encouraged, is not a conspiracy. If we continue to decimate our planet, it might become necessary to survive, though .
You’re so pessimistic. most of the remainder of humanity will be agrarian communities again within 50 years. I think it will take longer for the ocean to die. So we likely have a whole hundred years left!
They saw the movie Snowpiercer and now the future of humanity is eating bugs. And it very well could be. People have been eating bugs since, forever. Roaches will probably be around after many food sources are gone and we will eat them. You can bet on it.
Many cultures eat bugs for protein. The fact that this all becomes some kind of conspiracy thing just shows how stupid and gullible people have become.
Yeah if you’re dosed with LSD or your democratically elected left wing government gets couped, check if the cia did it. If a bunch of capitalists are trying to figure out how to get people to eat more sustainable protein and think bugs are the answer, idk doesn’t sound very cia. Not enough drugs or anti communism
The future of humanity is going to be eating bugs. We are doing nothing about the climate and still haven't figure out yet that our food sources are the first things that will go. Roaches will probably still be running around and you can bet your ass we will try to eat them. And we will like it.
My brother uses the history of the CIA to justify his support of Putin's invasion of Ukraine. If that doesn't really make any sense to you, it doesn't to me either.
I mean we still don't even know the full extent of what they did through the previous century. There are a couple of very noteworthy acknowledged coup or assassination attempts (and successes), but how many others are there? You'll still often get labelled a conspiracy theorist for talking about some of the other cases.
I don't know how many potential examples there are, but my standout example is Australia. Australia's 1975 constitutional crisis was set off by a Governor General who had been a member of a secretly-CIA-funded organisation, and the US had just recently sent someone known as "the coupmaster" (for his involvement in other coups) to Australia as their ambassador. A CIA contractor of the time says that the GG had been described within the CIA as "our man". And there was motive, in the form of the relatively leftist nature of the Australian Government at the time, and their threats to shut down the Joint Defence Facility at Pine Gap, a jointly-operated CIA/ASIO spy centre. Australian politics has heaved towards the neoliberal in the time since the alleged coup.
But it has never been formally acknowledged, and it's still only based on circumstantial evidence. Depending on who you're talking to, professing to believe there was CIA involvement will get you labelled a conspiracy theorist. I suspect there are probably other countries with similar stories.
I'm pretty sure the parent comment is whining because their "CIA caused Ukraine to hate Russia" argument falls flat in the face of overwhelming evidence that Putin and his gang of oligarchs are giant war-mongering douchebags.
Personally I dislike their restrictions on people’s bodily autonomy, their pandering to the right wing, and their opposition to the seizure of the means of production by the working class. Their refusal to take sufficient action in the face of the climate crisis, and refusal to fund passenger rail is also big. Further discontent is imperialism at home and abroad as well as our treatment of our indigenous peoples and our refusal to give land back so they can steward it in the responsible ways that they did for thousands of years.
I really dislike this government. But it’s not forcing you to eat bugs. It’s subsidizing the shit out of meat and should stop doing that. Y’all need beans and mushrooms instead but if you’d prefer bugs instead or alongside I’ll let you enjoy them