Now part of the problem is we don’t know the average membership length, and it’s further complicated by the fact that the Tate brothers ran the ‘school’ like a pyramid scheme where enrolling another member earned you a kick-back (which is why so many random channels popped up a few years back sharing clips).
So pulling random numbers out of my arse, if the average membership period was ~6 months and they had ~30% operating expenses (servers, bandwidth, kickbacks etc.) they could have netted ~$168m from this scheme.
I too, share your self-loathing in my morals preventing me from exploiting these absolute morons.
Omg 800,000 people (presumably mostly young men) signed up for that bullshit? Have we failed so many that they will seek help with the top douchebag himself?
According the "hustler's university 4.0" website you can get in for as little as 49USD (which is a steal, when the posted before price is 147USD)
Imagine scamming 8x10^5 for just 50USD each, I mean it's not like a considerable criminal investigation will get started for 50 bucks, but the chinless douche is walking away with 40million, from that scam alone. And I'll bet that there will be special courses with an additional charge, as well as merch and PPV webinars. Safe to say it's not just 40million Tate has scammed kids for.
It's apparently $50 a month, but based on one recent video from a guy who looked into this, there's apparently a hard sell to "commit" to the program for a year, and if you do commit, it won't let you cancel or refund, because you committed to the program, bro, that's a sacred vow, bro, you can't violate that, bro.
Ooph. I guess we can get really dismayed at this, or maybe we should just think that given his infamy it’s only natural he’s able to monetize it, one way or another. So many influencers produce content that is on the face of it of very little value. Granted, not so many are making a career out of promoting the most toxic aspects of (so-called) masculinity. Even Jordan Peterson has redeeming qualities compared to this. Of course that’s a low bar. A low bar that seemingly many men are happy to pass and fork money for in the hopes of bettering themselves.
I don't even think it's Andrew Tate specifically and I think that's a big problem.
I'm in my early 30s and grew up being 'the tech generation', adults marvelled at our simple abilities. Now I see 20 something's and even teens and they've surpassed us in every way, not so much in technical skill but they live in social media.
Smart watches, tik toks, face time and yada yada. It seems like a borderline gamble what will tickle their fancy or even what the algorithm will just repeatedly shove down their throat until they 'like it'.
I guess what I'm saying is I think the reliance and love of technology is what pushed a lot of these young guys into listening to this fucking clown as opposed to straight up ideology.
I am not sure that technology alone is to blame. But I have been thinking for a while now that recommendation algorithms should be open, scrutinized, and regulated even.
I talked my then 17yo nephew away from the whole Tate/Peterson/Rogan sphere a couple years ago. It's really sad how few quality role models there are for young men these days, and these shills are happily filling the spaces.
Whoo, which would be more embarrassing? Being exposed by this leak or the Ashley Madison one. I would love to see a list of email addresses that show up in both datasets.
One of the takeaways of AM being hacked was that a ton of accounts were fake, and existed to create the idea of a busy site, to add social proof and validity-by-numbers.
The AM hacks were like decade and change ago, and Tate's fanbase is mostly younger. I'm sure there is some overlap but probably small.