The German news reported the Holocaust in a similar fashion. It was just something that was happening. Germans had the ability to shut it out and pretend nothing was happening. Mass deportation turned to mass executions.
Europeans, Canadians, everyone, take these people before my countrymen murder them
They kept the concentration camps hidden, so they’ll probably call these something else that sounds juuuust safe enough for the news outlets who are brave enough to report on them. ?until those news outlets have their funding cut)
Interesting. When the topic is punishment, there are plenty of resources. When the topic is helping people, it's "who's footing the bill for that?!" I never saw a headline about a 1400 acre ranch being offered up to house people in poverty, but it gets offered up to imprison people with the "wrong" names and skin color. And they have the audacity to parade out "America first!" as a slogan to prioritize helping Americans before worrying about solving problems around the world.
Punishing people for allegedly coming here illegally will do nothing to help me. Them allegedly having come here illegally never hurt me. Help people who have been unhoused or addicted to harmful substances or traumatized by abuse to get to a place where that can be productive in our society. That would obviously help them, and then they would be able to help their communities. It's complicated and it's difficult, but it's work worth doing. I'm tired of lazy politicians and leaders looking for quick and easy solutions to fabricated problems so they can maximize the number of boxes that get checked. And that's a generous read on it. The reality is that they're greedy whores accepting money and power in exchange for punishing certain people while rewarding certain companies.
Republican politicians don't give a flying fuck about you and yours.
Don't worry RFK said he's going to send people on adderall and mental health drugs to a cozy summer camp. And Trump has previously blamed immigrants for the homeless problem, so obviously all he needs to do is go through the homeless camps and deport anyone without documentation.
See? How dare you say they don't have plans to place Billionaires Americans first!
Fascism never wins in the long run. It has to keep inventing a new enemy to keep people from noticing the fact that their policies aren't making anybody's lives better. This means it has to cut some people out of the in-group, and thus their base of support shrinks further and further.
Also, Trump is 78 years old, in poor health, and eats a lot of McDonalds. Going by the social security administration actuarial table, a 78 year old man has a 5.3% chance of keeling over in the next year. For him, it's probably a lot higher than that. Projecting out his next term to when he's 82, he has about a 30% chance of dying by then going by SSA numbers.
The only question is how much they fuck up before it gets to that point. They can fuck up quite a lot. The OG Nazis burned their whole country to the ground and took most of Europe with them. But they lose in the end in some way or another.
There is a small Holocaust museum in the town where I currently live. It was founded by Eva Kor, an amazing Holocaust survivor (and Mengele victim) who preached forgiveness, even publicly forgiving the Nazis who tortured her and killed her family. She settled here in Terre Haute, Indiana and eventually opened the museum.
I can be angry at both. And seriously? Why so much anger about the people telling me that Trump won't be opening concentration camps before the election as a reason that it was okay to not vote for Harris? Are you kidding me?
Parent said it has NOTHING to do with building concentration camps. So it would be odd to expect that word in the article. Or did you realize they were being sarcastic? Then I guess you just didn't like the joke and responded with being pedantic to distract from the point.
It takes a first grade reading level to draw the correlation between illegal prisons camps and concentration camps. Everyone else got there but you. Read a history book.
And I suppose when chimney stacks start being built its just to keep everyone warm?
When you gather a large population of individuals with the intention to deport them you need a host countrys willingness to except a influx of individuals. This may be a tricky and long bureaucratic process.
This means people could be sitting in these walled "camps" for a very long time, with no ability to freely leave. There will more then likely be full families in these camps, which then over time can turn into slums or ghettos.
Alternatively you could just invade the neighbouring country and ship them all there.
In a letter sent Tuesday, Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham notified Trump she had purchased a 1,402-acre ranch along the U.S.-Mexico border, about 35 miles west of McAllen. She also assured him that her office would work with federal agencies to construct a detention center.
This wasn't just empty land sitting around that Texas already owned, she purchased it specifically to give to trump so he could build a concentration camp. Is she the world's biggest brown noser trying to get a pat on the head from trump, or is she a deranged fascist who gets off on ruining lives? Maybe both?
Could be both but could also be financial. I'm sure this has the potential to earn her a lot of money. This detention facility could be there for 10+ years as countries reject receiving these people. That on top of the legal battles that will inevitably slow everything down while people are detained. That's a lot of rent to be collected, on top of all the other exorbitant fees I imagine will be in the contract. All you have to do is be morally bankrupt.
Yup! What's extra "funny" is that the federal government will probably foot the bill and thus these dirty immigrants will cost the regular Joe exorbitantly more - both in lost contribution to the economy and taxes but also in fees for being detained - than they would have if they would leave them the fuck alone. It better yet give them a realistic path to citizenship.
Right wingers are either fucking dumb as shit or 100% morally depraved. It makes my blood boil to the point that I cannot follow the news. And I ain't even living in the US. Just pisses me off to no end still how absolutely heartless and fucked people can be.
Strange that Texas, which wants a large population of people deported, would also be the first to choose to "open it's doors" and say "bring them all here"
They offer land freely in their backyard to build what essentially could turn into the equivalent of a slum or ghetto.
I can't imagin a neighbouring country accepting a large influx of people quickly or willingly. So Texas may find themselves "looking after" the people they send here for a long time.
I may be wrong on the process, but in Germany i believe it started with a community or neighbourhood being walled off. Think of a suburb or maybe a few large city blocks. People had to come and go through checkpoints and some were not allowed to leave.
After which these walled communities became slums or ghettos. Then the Nazis began to ship peoples from these walled communities out to Poland and neighbouring countries (that they invaded) into concentration camps.
If you were to see a article that said Texas is offering land to build a affordable housing neighbourhood, people would probably loose their shit in the USA.
Trouble is the plan is to send full families to these camps. These individuals will be waiting here a long time without the agility to freely leave.
Unless they plan to split women, men, and children apart. That means these camps will need to be built like walled neighbourhoods with schools for the kids while they wait. Housing with AC and heating, electricity, plumbing, fire protection. Streets to get around inside the complex, stores or shops.
I'm sure this totally unprecedented plan is nothing to worry about. It's not as though history is replete with similar plans that went awry.
I'm sure that, once concentrated into this one location, the people being deported will be safe and sound and free of disease and well-fed. And when no country agrees to take them in, I'm sure they'll just continue to be well-cared for in the encampment and there won't be any problem and certainly there won't be any spurious stories of riots or uprisings that need to be put down and which sadly result in the killing of pretty much all of the immigrants being held there. It will be fine. This is all fine and very, very normal.