Marco Rubio says he is against Gaza ceasefire

Is that honesty an improvement over biden pretending that he's working on a peace plan for more than a year?

All the people who were screeching to abandon Harris because of Gaza seem awfully quiet now

The difference here isn't in policy but in honesty.
Anticolonialist turned into a puff of smoke immediately after the election.
- I'm pretty sure they were just banned. This place has become somewhat of a lib echo chamber.
Gosh but I heard that all genocide is equal and Biden is literally the devil. Do you mean that having a meaningful impact on whether Palestinians live or die was worth swallowing my pride and voting for Harris? But isn't my ideal that no Palestinian should die more important than actually saving the lives of Palestinians?

/s I absolutely can't fucking stand people who were unable to realize that less harm would, in fact, be less harmful.
- You say "unable to realize", I say "intentionally pushed a false narrative to increase voter apathy".
  
  Especially since many of them refused to engage any discussion on how much worse Trump would be.
- I have a feeling a lot of them were not American. The bot farms are quiet now because they got what they wanted.
All the russian trolls? They've moved on. The America job is completed.
- For those uninformed link to that R site
Well it's not like Biden/Harris actually tried for a ceasefire. There's really not much change other than the quiet part being said out loud.
- Not much change yet… like I said in another thread, let’s just save this comment and revisit it in 2025, shall we?
Yeah that cease fire Biden negotiated was way better!

Oh, wait.
- Don’t try to pop their cope bubble.
Are they? I see the comments still full of them.
Nah, they're clamoring for Biden to hurry up and stop shipment of arms to Israel and get the ceasefire some before Trump gets into office. Too little to late guys, Israel won't care, won't do shit now that they know trump won.
- We’ve been clamoring for it since Biden first bypassed congress to directly send them weapons and money after October.
  
  Israel has never cared so far and gotten away with everything, so nothing has changed there.
- That and Israel doesn't NEED our weapons to keep doing what they're doing, they never have.
  
  Cutting them off only makes them weaker should they be attacked by Iran and does nothing to stop the genocide.
I mean what's there to say? Yeah we know Trump fucking sucks what do you want them to do? There's barely anything to say when he hasn't done anything ywt.
- He already said he's giving Israel a blank cheque. Not sure how that's "nothing"
It was all too predictable.

Donvict is in the pocket of the magaforbrainz that think Jews have to be in Israel to bring about the sick fantasy from their book club. Even if he doesn't actually believe in xtianity at all...

Let them who are most pro-war get to fight on the front lines.

Idc if it's a one sided genocide, this fluffy politician who wouldn't last a 3 mile ruck should get to experience wtf he's actually advocating.

Come on, you know the most pro war are the fat cats and their kin that will never be anywhere near the front lines.

Wouldn't it be nice though.

Everyone pointing at people that didn't vote for Harris over Gaza like this is some gotcha moment are totally missing the point. If Gaza was your primary concern (like if you and your family are Palestinian perhaps) neither candidate was going to do anything for you at all. Harris paid a tiny bit of lip service to Gaza two days before the election after months of shutting down and ignoring everyone demanding ceasefire.

I voted Harris purely out of harm reduction, but she offered nothing to anyone on the left. The DNC assumes everyone that is queer or bipoc or a woman owes them their vote and then used the platform to court non-existent center right voters.

But nah, let's pretend that Harris, who took Biden's positions wholesale, would have done something different as if they weren't currently in power. Let's pretend they would have done something to restore abortion rights too, or tackle climate change or raise the minimum wage when they're so busy trying to get fascist votes and not piss off the coporate donor class.

The Democratic party needs to be rebuilt from scratch or not rebuilt at all.

that Harris, who took Biden's positions wholesale

Except for the instances where she moved further to the right, like on capital gains tax.
Everyone pointing at people that didn’t vote for Harris over Gaza like this is some gotcha moment are totally missing the point.

Yes, yes. We get your "point". Harris's policy on Gaza was bad, so of course the clear solution was to hand the Presidency to someone who would make it worse. To send a message.

Good job, guys. Your message was loud and clear. I'm sure that in 2028, Democrats might have a slightly more pro-Palestine agenda. Maybe. Until they realize there's a hell of a lot more Jewish voters that would be even more pissed off. Lesson learned. I'm sure the people of Palestine who will lose their land, their families, and their lives between now and then will take solace in knowing that you sacrificed their lives on their behalf to send a political message in a country 5000 miles away. I'm sure that's exactly what they wanted.
- Except that basically every angle except geopolitics, MIC profits, and AIPAC money, pointed towards curbing Israel/Bibi as a a good move. Even a free and independent Palestine has supermajority support - from a Nov-Oct poll of American Jewish voters:
  
  Jewish voters… priorities include a major speech proposing a Palestinian state and diplomatic relations between Israel and Arab states (72 percent) and increasing humanitarian aid to Palestinians (71 percent). There is also significant support (66 percent) for sanctioning Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich for aiding violent settler attacks against Palestinians.
  
  Emphasis mine. Review the data if you care, but the continuation of Bidens policies was a huge self own. Resolve the issue and Republicans/Russian messaging of ‘Genocide Joe’ falls flat.
- Those Palestinians were going to lose their land, families and lives either way. Biden has done nothing to stop Israel, neither would Harris. She made it abundantly clear that "protecting" Israel was more important than stopping genocide.
  
  Gaza didn't cost Harris the election. Maybe Michigan, but even that's a stretch. Democrats lost ground in literally every demographic other than 100k+ income because, again, they campaigned to the right and offered absolutely nothing to the left.
  
  If Harris told any other assumed Democratic group to fuck off this hard, nobody would be surprised they didn't vote for her. If she ran as pro-life to court Trumpers and her support from women collapsed we wouldn't be screaming about them getting in line, we'd be talking about Harris betraying those voters. This is no different, it just affects a far smaller voting bloc that people feel comfortable scapegoating.

Something, something, "Genocide Joe", argle bargle, bOtHsIdEs, people!

Something something, "I'm a lib who supports genocide" arhajkhja aisodjaiso It's the voters who are wrong!
Gaza protest voters: shocked Pikachu face.
I’ll keep repeating it: only those feeble minded enough to be manipulated by our foreign adversaries bought into that bullshit.

Nothing else convinces me that we live amongst NPCs more than liberal voter apathy over the war in Gaza.

Something, something Republicans are peacemakers.

Well, you can't be at war against an enemy that doesn't exist. If there are no more palestinians, you can't be at war with them.
- Peace through annihilation

lol what the fuck else could anyone expect? He’s an invertebrate.

Proposed Secretary of State is against Gaza cease fire.

You reap what you sow, kids!

The continued ongoing genocide of the Palestinians as materially aided by US politicians on both sides of the aisle?

A few very vocal ~~dumbfucks~~ users of the last months need to be tagged here.