OP: posts example of Republicans taking credit for things they opposed
ITT: "Roads are bad!"
Kinda missing the point, here.
Remember: anything Democrats do is bad. That is literally ALL that these fucking shills care about. Spin spin spin. They look at any topic and think, "how can we spin this to attack Democrats?"
They get the point. They're deflecting.
Go to c/fuckcars. Not sure which instance. The anti-road peeps are consistent and the American ones are progressive and would probably have to be tortured to vote R.
Nothing helps traffic like more roads. It's not like mass transit could fix it.
Still need infrastructure for mass transit.
Busses still need roads and rails need maintenance.
Trains still need some pretty massive interchanges, just look at any megabase in Factorio. There are literally books of blueprints to deal with any interchange you could possibly need for your trains.Replied to the wrong comment.
Infrastructure doesn't necessarily mean roads. Although I haven't heard of anyone using this money to make public transportation better I have heard stories of cities using this money to improve pedestrian and bike infrastructure.
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You're right but that's not really the point of this post
Politicians really need to start being held accountable for blatant lies... they don't even try anymore, which means it will only get worse. Lying like this should be punishable.
I have been told multiple times on Lemmy, including this morning, that Harris and Trump would be exactly the same when it came to queer rights and women's rights but at least Republicans are honest about it.
It's mind-boggling.
Yeah the amount of gas lighting and mental gymnastics is astounding. I stopped wasting energy listening to these clowns. Just call them for what they are and disengage and place a mirror in front of them so they can gaslight themselves.
I have a cousin, whos kinda weird, but he comments like that hoping to be picked up as a up incoming republican by the true government. Fuck years who his mom and i were drinking in the middle of trumps term, and she says.... that he will make a great general when the next civil war comes....
These crazy posters probably have a similar mind set. Its honestly revolting.
I mostly just hear screeching about genocide (but only when criticizing democrats, never about republicans). I've noticed that I've started racking up bans on various communities for calling out such bad-faith arguments.
Meanwhile, I'm talking to someone right now elsewhere who is coming very close to saying that the way to stop the genocide of Palestinians is a genocide of Israelis. I'm curious to see if they are actually going to go that far.
People have some severely fucked up morals regarding the genocide in Gaza.
Those nationwide infrastructure bills should distribute funds to the districts and states according to who voted for or against the bill. The bill passed, but you voted against it? Nothing for your district that you would have received even if it's in the bill.
Look at TANF.
Give any control to states of federal funding and it's the most vulnerable who suffer.
And that creates a whole load of angry people suffering who tend to fall for rhetoric blaming others for their problems.
Republicans gain votes by making people angry, poor, and powerless.
If the Democrats want to flip a swing state the best way to do it is making people better off.
The fact Republicans then try to get credit is irrelevant. If Republicans need to say how much "they" improved things it's them saying how positive things are and evidence the damaging messages the party usually spews are failing. This representative is panicking because of the infrastructure bills effect.
I like the concept of what you are trying to do, but the suggested implementation is terrible.
Republicans put a poison pill to make men wearing dresses a felony in a funding bill when they have the majority in the House?
Vote against it and no funds for you!
The best way to fix this is to have a sign as you enter the highway system on how your representative voted.
I begged for COVID checks to have the same.
Something simple like:
This highway goes through congressional districts 6, 9, and 12. Representatives Asshole, Dingus, and Cunt (respectively) voted against it.
I see this in a lot in my red town. There are a lot of infrastructure projects and they all say "project x funded by the republicans for <town> initiative or whatever" and then you go to the website and in the fine print it says that initiative was itself funded with IRA money.
I really wasn't sure about the IRA at the time; I had big sticker shock at $5 trillion dollars. But seeing my middle-of-nowhere-in-particular town get big big projects funded with it has convinced me that this is landmark legislation that history will recognize as significant.
Now extend the northeast corridor to the rest of the country please! I want more passenger rail! I demand better train service!
You can vote against a bill and still be responsible for specific portions of it or how it gets distributed. You fight for your state and district to get their pork even if you disagree with slaughtering the pig.
My issue isn't that people are dolling out the money they got. The problem is that they are telling anyone who will listen that they alone did this when in reality they are ideologically opposed to the money and the tiniest bit of investigation reveals that not only do they hate the money, they also voted against it. You can't claim a policy as your own accomplishment if you tried to tank it.
My take is, both parties bad, one far worse.
Hot take right here
Republicans have always voted against anything thats good for the country or citizenry, then when it gets passed regardless, they take all the credit for it.
And thanks to conservative voters being nicely quaranetined into the conservative news cycle, They hear nothing but that their dear Republican Representatives scored another big win for them against the big bad evil mean demorats.
I came across a video on youtube from a major pro-business media outlet calling road diets a 'socialist ideal' and saying that the 'liberals are trying to take away our cars'. The comments were equally unhinged.
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Who in the hell is saying they are the same?
You must be new here.
Mostly straw men, but there's a few tankies who believe it.
Multiple people I have talked to on Lemmy over the past year.
Anybody who opposes genocide, cars, etc.
Who is saying both parties are the same? All I see are people misconstruing criticism of the Democratic party as meaning both are the same. Both parties have a lot of similarities, both are right wing, both support Palestinian genocide, but no one I've seen is suggesting they are the exact same unless you grossly misinterpret them.
The ones complaining about them being the same are generally the type to abstain or vote 3rd party from what I've seen. It's anecdotal so take that for what it's worth but hang out near those groups and you'll likely see it more.
Piss off.
Both parties have a lot of similarities, both are right wing, both support Palestinian genocide
THIS IS saying both parties are the same.
"Oooh I didn't mean they're literally 100%-" no. Fuck you, you know what the fuck you're saying. Don't try to get off on a technicality. Stop playing games.
Based on your description the difference between the parties is just red vs blue.
No thanks on this car brain garbage. Their "infrastructure plan" is terrible. Nobody is supporting reasonable, sustainable infrastructure. Ban cars.
This. Insane fucking American car culture. Republicans obviously suck arse but wtf. Invest in public transit instead and these problems wouldn't exist in the first place.
Of course they're not the same!
The Republicans now support Fascism at home, whilst the Democrats so far only support Fascism abroad.
You should check out harris' record as a prosecutor in california sometime.
Oh joy, more money for roads. More state funds for drivers. The war on cars continues unabated.
That is off-topic. You might enjoy [email protected] if that's what you want to debate.
It's completely on topic to point out that both parties support the same dead end infrastructure, when the premise of the post is that there's some meaningful difference. Ban cars.
As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden made a bold promise at a New Hampshire town hall, adding repetition for emphasis: “No more drilling on federal lands. Period. Period. Period. Period.” […] The Biden administration has now outpaced the Trump administration in approving permits for drilling on public lands, and the United States is producing more oil than any country ever has. […] The reality is the United States is already dominant. The country is expected to produce 13.2 million barrels of oil per day on average this year — millions of barrels more than Saudi Arabia or Russia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2024/08/16/biden-oil-drilling-production/
They're not the same, but if you look at the big picture, like a livable vs an unlivable biosphere, then the slightly-lesser evil is still omnicidally evil (and helping with a genocide).
I wish I had your privilege of only having to worry about two things; the environment and Palestine.
I'm one of those folks who has to deal with the police, doctors, schools, roads, and the possibility of a fascist takeover of the government by someone who has been praising Hitler for years.
I'm sorry if I've offended your high morals.
I'm not offended - I understand most people have very different priorities. I personally think that preventing a mass extinction event is more important than police, doctors, schools, roads (for cars), and fascism; because I happen to think that a catastrophic climate cascade means nothing else matters. Healthcare is nice, but doctors will all be dead when the biosphere becomes unlivable.
I don't stand with the genocidal Hamas voters, nor with the genocidal Israeli voters.
"In June 2021, a federal judge struck down Biden’s pause on oil and gas leasing on federal lands, delivering a win to Republican-led states that had challenged the policy."
Harris literally bragged about increasing domestic gas production to an all time high. The "hands-are-tied" bit is bullshit.
Call me selfish, but I'm a lot more concerned when it comes to this election about the potential genocides of queer and brown people that will happen if Trump is elected. Since, you know, they're basically saying that will happen.
But there is this bizarre idea that some people have that adding two genocides on top of the existing genocides (because Trump isn't going to do shit about the one Russia is doing in Ukraine either) doesn't matter.
I want to keep queer people (including my own daughter) out of conversion camps and brown people out of concentration camps.
That's a pretty big fucking picture.
