Last two flags are in the wrong order. Not just chronologically, but with regards to causation too: the Nazis were heavily influenced by American racists.
An argument could be made for the American traitor flag to be on both sides of the swastika, but that would be pretty messy..
A Stars & Stripes with 48 stars would probably be too subtle..
Hitler spoke about the American south and Jim Crow with reverence, he thought it should be a model for German racist policies.
This was something he wrote about in Mein Kampf.
Greater than just the South, the eugenics movement in the US in the early 20th century, with forced sterilizations and criminalizing interracial marriage, happened nationally.
Though you don't need to be capitalist to be racist as fuck. Racism exists all over the world in many different government and economic systems throughout all of human history
i mean not just the south, the west and midwest too where do u think he got all those ideas about contiguous "living space" and about exterminating the people who already live in the land u want to steel and about consecration camps and reservations that continuously move towards a frontier until the displaced people have nowhere to go, amerikkka from its very inception was the template for nazi germany.
It's valid to point that out, but I think that OP is talking about the modern usage of the Confederate flag, not the original use. At least, it becomes a much more coherent message that way.
Facsism is just capitalism when you try to say no.
Understandably, workers didn't like capitalism. So, when they found out about socialism, many of them grouped up and tried to say no. After which, facsism was made to counter this.
So, I mean literally fascism is just capitalism when you try to say no. You only get mercan staal neo classical economics because you say yes.
"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power." - Benito Mussolini
I‘m not disagreeing with what you’re trying to convey but still: Mussolini very likely never said/wrote that, seems to have been misattributed. IF he did, the Italian word corporazioni, while technically translating to corporations, doesn’t refer to private companies, which in Italian are normally called società.
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It needs another frame showing that feudalism never went away. Capitalism is just a way to walk us all back to feudalism.
Not really. Capitalism was born from feudalism, but is entirely different in character.
Stereotypical ml post
Unsurprising .world comment
Woo federation
Not really, stereotypical would be having a liberal in the last frame
machine learning?
I thought it was machine learning to, but I am fairly sure it stands for Marxist Leninist.
Lemmy.ml is what they are talking about.
Fascism is Capitalism's immune system, activated when the wealth gap gets too large.
Activated when the people get's too aware of the exploitation and begins fighting back
Maybe we shouldn't be using an economic system whose immune system has historically lead to genocide, especially in an age where nukes are now a thing.
Which makes it... Larger?
If it's protecting capitalism, wouldn't you mean when the wealth gap is too small? As in it is a driving force of the wealth gap?
No, as the Petite Bourgeoisie are proletarianized by the formation of Monopoly Capitalism, the Petite Bourgeoisie aligns with the Bourgeoisie against the Proletariat, who at the time gain class consciousness and are increasingly sympathetic to Socialism and Communism. Fascism is a defense mechanism against Communism.
Fuckingcapitalists
Behind the Nazis is what they learned from Trail of Tears and US antebellum slavery. Behind that, you get Rome.
It's war. War is behind all fascism.
In simpler terms, it's greed.
It's systems built to reward the exploitation of the many by a few powerful individuals. It's not a sin that is the issue, it's the actual political-economic systems that are currently being maintained.
An anarchist would take off the capitalist mask to reveal hierarchy
Capitalism is a hierarchy so true as well
Wouldn't the state also be in the frame before the capitalist at the end?
you forgot somethingThe State is the weapon by which any class asserts their control, not the other way around.
How is national socialism a mask for capitalism?
You can't actually combine Nationalism and Socialism as Socialism is directly opposed to Nationalism. Mussolini went over this many times how "It is an error of Socialism to exclude Nationalism"(paraphrased), the Socialist aspect is reduced to the future where the "others" have been eradicated, which will never actually happen as Hitler went from "There are 5 white races" to "All Mediterraneans have been negrified" and I've no doubt he would eventually consider all slavs to be "mongolized".
national 'socialism' my fucking ass
One time I had a brain fart when I was reading about the United the Right rally and was confused why "national socialists" were there lol. Aren't socialists left? Then I was like "...oh. literal Nazis."
Because the Nazis were Anticommunist, antisocialist Capitalists.
Solution to the problem: ban right-wingers, impose socialism and if rich people get too noisy send secret services to deal with them Pinochet-style. Bam, capitalism defeated in a few years.
So what would you tell people that say that Nazis stands for national socialism - there is a socialism even in the name of the party.
So where does capitalism comes from?
I would ask these people who was in charge, the workers, or the large corporations, and by what mode of production were commodities produced.
The Nazis were not Socialist, they were similar to Social Democrats but far more Nationalist, racist, and Corporatist. They were Capitalism in its most Anticommunist and violent form, fascism.
I'm just saying that some ring wing characters online are saying this:
...The Jewish doctrine of Marxism rejects the aristocratic principle of Nature and replaces the eternal privilege of power and strength by the mass of numbers and their dead weight. Thus it denies the value of personality in man, contests the significance of nationality and race, and thereby withdraws from humanity the premise of its existence and its culture. As a foundation of the universe, this doctrine would bring about the end of any order intellectually conceivable to man. And as, in this greatest of all recognizable organisms, the result of an application of such a law could only be chaos, on earth it could only be destruction for the inhabitants of this planet.
If, with the help of his Marxist creed, the Jew is victorious over the other peoples of the world, his crown will be the funeral wreath of humanity and this planet will, as it did thousands of years ago, move through the ether devoid of men
-- Hitler in Mein Kampf
‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
Excerpt from an interview with Hitler. Note the part about "private property".
Obviously he railed against Marxism all the time, but these were the most obvious quotes. He clearly did defend private property, and I'm not really sure that there was any collective farming like he describes of his "German ancestors".
The naming of something decides the nature of the thing
Lol
So where does capitalism comes from?
Volkswagen, Siemens, IBM, Hugo Boss, and many others. Also socialists known to like privatization, not like the Nazis invented that, rightt?
The Nazis built the first concentration camp at Dachau for priests and political prisoners. The political prisoners were mostly from the Socialist Party of Germany (SPD), communists and liberals. The fucking MAGATs are trying to twist history again.
I'm just saying that some ring wing characters online are saying this:
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Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al: am I a joke to you?
Horseshoe theory is horseshit, and Pol pot was as much a communist as Hitler was a socialist, which is to say not at all.
no but u are
If everything is to be shared under communism, wouldnt that include political power? That would make communism a direct democracy. Does that sound like the countries you have in mind?
Perhaps there is a better unknown way to live our lives that we haven't discovered yet. How would we ever discover it if we just allow the status quo to persist? Capitalism doesn't even have tens of thousands of years of precedent like feudalism has. We unmake feudalism in much of the world, one day we will unmake Capitalism.
I bet a large portion of the population would agree that how we live our lives... is bullshit and needs to be replaced. We just don't agree with what to do next.
we should try new things until everyone's needs are met. This way of life is worthless as it only works for the 1%.
Capitalism doesn’t even have tens of thousands of years of precedent like feudalism has
Feudalism doesn't have tens of thousands of years either.
Most of the deaths under Stalin were from the conman Trofim Lysenko, who created "Lysenkoism" (a set of farming techniques he was faking the data on to get paid), and under both Mao and Stalin were from unwanted famines.
You're on .ml so yea tankies being tankies...
Illiterate too, Hitler wrote of Jim Crow as a model for Germany in Mein Kampf.
Ehh i wouldnt agree, heavy capitalists are usually pretty liberal because they dont like regulation. There is some precident of big factory and company owners actually fighting against faschism(not for the good reasons tho). I do agree with lesser right wing ideologies just being "recruitment" for far-righters. Wewe seen them radicalise so many times in the past that it should be obvious by now that any amount of right leads to more far-right.
All liberal capitalists want a full on chain of commands and dictator level control over their
domainemployees. The only difference is that they want “market forces” to force people to work for them instead of violence.Capitalism doesn't care what people feel about it, it moves according to its structure. Just because libertarians don't like Capitalism doesn't mean they can stop monopoly Capitalism from lobbying for regulations.
“Liberal” is a word with many meanings. Not defining is bad enough. Hopping between definitions between sentences and hoping your readers don’t notice is just lame.
If everything is capitalism, then nothing is capitalism
Everything isn’t capitalism, but fascism is always funded by the capitalist class. In fact it can’t get far without it. Fascism doesn’t just randomly sprout out of the ground; it’s not as organic & grassroots as most people think. Fascism is always a false revolution, because the capitalist class always remains in power. It’s what the capitalist class falls back on when liberal democracy starts to fail them. It’s when the capitalist class goes mask off. That’s what Lenin meant by “fascism is capitalism in decay.” Michael Parenti: Rational Fascism
How did January 6 happen? With a whole bunch of funding from rich motherfuckers.
- CNN: Man who organized buses for 200 people to travel to DC pleads guilty in US Capitol riot probe
- ProPublica: Texts Show Kimberly Guilfoyle Bragged About Raising Millions for Rally That Fueled Capitol Riot
- NPR: New clues emerge about the money that might have helped fund the Jan. 6 insurrection
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The Nation: Trumpism: It’s Coming From the SuburbsBut scapegoating poor whites keeps the conversation away from fascism’s real base: the petite bourgeoisie. This is a piece of jargon used mostly by Marxists to denote small-property owners, whose nearest equivalents these days may be the “upper middle class” or “small-business owners.” […] Trump’s real base, the actual backbone of fascism, isn’t poor and working-class voters, but middle-class and affluent whites. Often self-employed, possessed of a retirement account and a home as a nest egg, this is the stratum taken in by Horatio Alger stories. They can envision playing the market well enough to become the next Trump. They haven’t won “big-league,” but they’ve won enough to be invested in the hierarchy they aspire to climb. If only America were made great again, they could become the haute bourgeoisie—the storied “1 percent.”
