Holocaust revisionism is running through the mainstream of the MAGA movement

I also love the fact that saying we shouldn't allow one semitic group to eradicate another semitic group with our tax payer dollars, makes you antisemitic.

To be fair both parties are currently engaged in genocide denial.

You know it is possible that both you and they are antisemitic?

A made up political spectrum doesn't make it impossible for you to fall for the same politics of hate that they've fallen for.

Many in the pro-Palestinian movement have lost a sense of good judgment thinking their emotions justify anything they say or do. Others in the movement look the other way when this happens.

Take a good look at this Tucker Carlson drama unfolding. This is how most people see the pro-Palestinian movement right now. Rationalizing antisemitic shit. Does this help Palestinians? Nope. But that movement is going in a bad direction, and it's starting to be more focused on hating Israel (and Jews in general) than on actually helping Palestinians. A lot of similarities to the MAGA movement, which claims to be about helping the middle class, but in actual practice is more about hating people. Right now the MAGAs are hating on the same people that people in the pro-Palestinian movement hate.

Many in the pro-Palestinian movement today will become the MAGAs of the future. Antisemitism is a hard thing to shake and has a tendency to take over all other thoughts by people infected with it.

#2 is what defenders of Israel are saying today too

You can have a little nazi ideology, as a treat ... no, wait, shit!

Lemmy try another:
Do you want Nazis? Because thats how you get Nazis!

Yeah, there we go.

I was taught that it was the largest specific group targeted not that it was the majority.

Holocaust victims were people targeted by the government of Nazi Germany based on their ethnicity, religion, political beliefs, disability or sexual orientation For specified groups like the Jews, genocide was the Nazis' primary goal. According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM), the Holocaust was "the systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored persecution and murder of six million Jewish men, women and children by the Nazi regime and its collaborators".[1]

Including 7.8 million soviet civilians and POWs in the count kind of seems like a revisionist definition of what the holocaust was to include anyone killed in the war. To undermine how much focus was on the jews pre-war.

I've always heard the figure being 12 million total. I actually saw an older piece of material recently that mentioned the total as being 11 million.i agree that saying Jews were a majority is incorrect and misleading but I don't think it's intentional misinformation. It was the largest individual group.

So what is the total amount of soviets that were victims?

Lazy but wholesome.

Also aside from the death camps the Nazis ran executions squads, just lining up and shooting all the villagers once they captured a village.

There is absolutely no question about the Nazis intention of murdering people they thought to be inferior or inconvenient.

Hell, not even the fucking Nazis themselves claimed that they weren't deliberately operating death camps. Here's Rudolf Höss, commandant of Auschwitz:

Technically [it] wasn't so hard—it would not have been hard to exterminate even greater numbers.... The killing itself took the least time. You could dispose of 2,000 head in half an hour, but it was the burning that took all the time. The killing was easy; you didn't even need guards to drive them into the chambers; they just went in expecting to take showers and, instead of water, we turned on poison gas. The whole thing went very quickly.

And here he is, after his trial, four days before his execution:

My conscience compels me to make the following declaration. In the solitude of my prison cell, I have come to the bitter recognition that I have sinned gravely against humanity. As Commandant of Auschwitz, I was responsible for carrying out part of the cruel plans of the 'Third Reich' for human destruction. In so doing I have inflicted terrible wounds on humanity. I caused unspeakable suffering for the Polish people in particular. I am to pay for this with my life. May the Lord God forgive one day what I have done. I ask the Polish people for forgiveness. In Polish prisons I experienced for the first time what human kindness is. Despite all that has happened I have experienced humane treatment which I could never have expected, and which has deeply shamed me. May the facts which are now coming out about the horrible crimes against humanity make the repetition of such cruel acts impossible for all time.

Doesn't really sound like the statement of a guy who was trying to claim it didn't fucking happen, or that it was anything but a deliberate crime against humanity.

when the Democrats are currently the ones funding and arming and abetting a genocide.

This bit of 'both sides' is kinda neat. It looks at how much worse it would be under a republican dictatorship and then says the problem is Democrats.

When you were preserving witness accounts, was that from your office in former Leningrad?

Can the two things not be true at once? Could it not possibly be the case that both parties are too far right, but one is so much more extreme that it is not only comfortable with the current narrative but going so far as to rewrite the past in order to support it?

How is it now "whataboutism" to call out these talking heads for engaging in clear-as-day holocaust revisionism? Just because Democrats have the same garbage foreign policy? Is that not whataboutism in and of itself???

This comment is whataboutism.

Your anger should be directed at the military industrial complex.