Israel Just Killed Another American in the West Bank. Will the U.S. Ever Respond?
Israel Just Killed Another American in the West Bank. Will the U.S. Ever Respond?
Aysenur Ezgi Eygi, a human rights activist, was protesting an illegal West Bank settlement when she was reportedly shot in the head by Israeli soldiers.
"Well don't stand in the genocide zone!"
Why start now?
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241231447/rachel-corrie-gaza-palestinians-aid-israel-hamas-war
Israel killed her 21 years ago.
All part of Israeli policy of bulldozing the homes of people who dare resist them.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_demolition_of_Palestinian_property
I will never forget Rachel Corrie.
Americans are upset, just politicians are afraid to lose their annual bribes if they talk outside of church.
The other side gives bribes too. The only difference is that Israel has a stronger lobby and a bigger pot to finance their payoffs.
This will never end until we get the money out of politics.
Wait, what's the other side that pays folks to free Palestine? Honest question, because if they exist, they sure are doing a shit job.
Will the US respond? Yes! By reimbursing the ammunition used
The U.S. has responded. That IS the problem.
Respond with more money
If by respond you mean send even more bombs and weapons, then yes.
They responded to this in the past: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/israel-west-bank-and-gaza-travel-advisory.html
This kind of thing is entirely predictable and US citizens have been warned by the State Department about there being an active conflict happening in the area.
So a US citizen died while ignoring a travel advisory from the US government. US citizenship doesn't make someone invincible, and it doesn't mean the US military is going to avenge your death (or whatever fantasy you can come up with) if you're deliberately ignoring the warnings about an area of the world being dangerous. The obligation of protecting citizens was fulfilled by issuing the warning.
There is no legal obligation to protect citizens. Is there an ethical obligation? Kind of no, for reasons you listed, but kind of yes, because the cause of death was predictable and it's something in the US has partial control over.
From a practical standpoint, we all agree that the US won't do anything, because they certainly aren't worried about pacifists in war zones where one of the sides is getting its weapons from the United States.
Although there are a bunch of ways the US can apply pressure. I think people overestimate the power ceasing weapon sales would have. While I believe it is the ethically right thing to do. It wouldn't really hinder Israel's ability to wage this war. It is allowing them to maintain their very vast stockpiles. But they could probably go years without even getting low, much less running out, without external weapons.
Yeah a country has an ethical obligation to protect it's citizens. Which is why countries issue travel advisories. If you ignore the warnings your country is giving you, that ethical obligation doesn't apply because it was already fulfilled by the warning.
"Don't go over there, it's dangerous!"
"Screw you, I'm not listening to you!"
Problem happens.
"Why did you allow this dangerous thing to happen???"
Oh fuck yeah. They've killed TWO of ours now!? We'll suck their dick harder!
Nope US life is expendable.
Biden will wag his finger at Bibi, and give him $1 bil less the next round of funding. Boy is that gonna sting .
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Democrats are limp wristed when it comes to Israel. Expect more death, they won't raise a finger to stop it. Republicans aren't any better.
Republicans are far, far worse... Why are you framing it this way? This is just intellectual dishonesty.
Do you know how many Americans the US government kills in the US? Why would they give a shit about one more far away?
Lol.
I think people forget that cops are part of the government and they definitely kill innocent people.
Protesting in a war zone of a foreign country on the side that started it and knowing how Israel is executing a genocide is a whole new level of stupid.
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If the US stopped taking sides in this ass conflict, maybe the corrupt fuckers running the war from both sides would have a harder time profiting from it and knock it the fuck off.
both sides
Those greedy Palestinians, getting genocided like that. Can you believe them?
Funny that just last week an American was shot in the head, executed by Hamas, and there wasn't an Intercept article mentioning it. Maybe it's just not fashionable to be outraged about it, and it wouldn't get enough clicks.
Are you actually claiming there was no media coverage of the murdered hostages?
There is a very good argument that the role of non mainstream news sources, like the Intercept, it to shed light on the news that mainstream media doesn't raise.
If the CNN was blasting 24 hours the news about this American being shot, I'm pretty sure the Intercept would not bother either.
Just an observation on the nature of media and events. The Intercept is hardly mainstream. Instead of reporting facts it produces outrage purposed dribble, and this is a good example. In this case, those facts are not determined, and the US State Department is seeking them. That's the way CNN reported it anyway. Should this turn into an Ashli Babbitt situation, the Intercept will not report it and it will not be here because it won't suit the fashionable narrative.
On a side note, I wonder what this story has to do with US Politics. Although I do see a mod in the string who should be able to explain that, but probably won't
People expect terrorists to shoot innocent people in the head. They don't accept it when people claiming to fight terrorists shoot innocent people in the head.
Ask a Palestinian in the West Bank if they think Hamas are terrorists or freedom fighters.
"Terrorist" is a thought-terminating cliche.
Both Israel and Hamas are religious extremists who exploit and murder innocent civilians. Neither one is worthy of our aid or our defense. Send aid to the poor people caught in the middle of this shit and stop sending weapons.
You couch this story like you know what happened. You don't
That's outrageous. We should immediately stop funding Hamas.
No more weapons packages.
No more military funding.
The Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group should stop supporting them now.
Um, this clearly falls under the US policy regarding its citizens vis a vis 'play stupid games, win stupid prizes'.
Like going to a concert near the border of Gaza and presidents ignoring intel briefings. Stupid games, stupid prizes.
Or living in a country where you're clearly not wanted.
Does that include Israeli Americans? Because I don't think it does.
Edit: unless they happen to be you know left wing ones protesting apartheid. Then they're fair game.
Would you be saying the same thing if the insurrectionists were mowed down by the national guard on Jan 6?
Ashli Babbitt got what she had coming. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, right?
Or is that different somehow because she was a righty?
You idiots are going to have to FAFO the hard way. Go ahead and try again when Trump loses, we have a president that will deploy the national guard and open fire on you terrorists
edit: go ahead and censor this comment, nothing illegal is suggested. no violence is threatened on my part. I am in support of protecting our capital from terrorism
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That policy doesn't seem to apply to people living in Russia, or even travelling to North Korea.
Really? Americans have gone to Russia or NK to protest in front of their soldiers and didn't win a stupid prize?
Maybe stay the fuck out of the West Bank?
During the BLM protests, whenever a piece of shit would drive through a group of protesters, white nationalists would all be like "stay out of the street and you won't get hit lol."
This happened even when the protesters were crossing with the light at a crosswalk.
You remind me of them.
What? Are you saying non-combatants are in danger from Israeli attacks?
* shocked Pikachu *