Christ, never thought I'd have a stopped clock moment with one of these sovcit mooks.
Sovcits are all seeking to regain control of their lives. They recognize the system is cold and uncaring but though the power of magical thinking they believe that loopholes exist that can give you control back.
Are they delusional? Yes. Is their pain and frustration, the root cause of the insanity, valid? Absolutely valid, and something all of us (generalizing here, bourgeoisie excluded) experience.
You have more in common with a sovcit than you do with Jeff Bezos or any other billionaire.
Yeah he's right about all that. He just then chooses an insane and useless method to fix it. If he tried to create a community of people banding together to force change, like a renters union, he'd have more luck and sympathy.
The idea of a corporate landlord who can just sit in some office demanding rent from you without ever showing their faces on the property really is insane.
If I think of it myself, I've never met my landlord - they communicate exclusively through their estate agent, I only ever see their name on the rent bill.
When you have no ability to confront your landlord, you have no ability to negotiate. People's living spaces shouldn't be an investment.
Do you want your landlord showing up all the time just to remind you that the place you’re living in isn’t actually yours?
No, but I want to give my landlord the opportunity (responsibility?) to see me as a person and not just an income source.
There was a great episode of This American Life where they interviewed a kid who took over managing one of his dad's properties. One of the tenants was a couple who had lost a child, and they fell behind on rent (and on life in many ways).
One of the things that stood out to me was how difficult it was for the kid to put in the work needed to accommodate this couple. He worked his ass off coming up with payment plans and helping them budget. His big takeaway was that he didn't ever want to get involved with his tenants again because it was too heartbreaking to be in a position where you're supposed to evict someone that's struggling.
Act three of this episode if you want to check it. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/323/the-super
Honestly @RadicalEagle said it better than I ever could...
I do believe a landlord should have the responsibility to communicate with their tenants personally, to negotiate any contracts personally, to hand notices personally, so that they're at the very least obligated to see their tenants as people rather than as purely as an investment.
Sure, there are some psychopaths that'll stomp all over you anyways, but for most people it's a lot harder to be an asshole when you have to confront the consequences personally.
You seem to think rent is a negotiation.
Where did u ever get that idea?
Just like anything else if someone has something u want u have to give them what they want. They have no obligation to negotiate.
Just like anything else if someone has something u want u have to give them what they want.
What exactly do you think "negotiate" means? Because it refers to this, to working out what it is that each of you will exchange with the other.
I mean, they have no obligation to negotiate but it is an option... Right up until the lease agreement is signed, after which point you're SOL
While you're right that the landlord has no obligation to negotiate with you, dependent on demand in your area, you do have some ability to negotiate pre-lease...
And let me tell you from experience, it's a whole lot easier to do that with a physical person than an entity you never see and never talk to directly.
He’s actually kinda close to getting it.
Yeah, I actually kinda sympathize a lot with the guy here
Is there a Lemmy version of r/SelfAwarewolves?
[email protected] Unfortunately it seems to be a dead community
Someone just needs to explain to this guy why capital is the problem.
He a little confused, but he got the spirit.
He's right on the problems, not so much on causes and solutions...
me when I call customer service.
In my imagination the most crazy here is in the responses received. Poor guy almost has it.
Everything he says is right but at the same time he decided to live in that apartment. If the rent is too high and the landlord doesn't fix issues move.
What's complaining going to do about it, and also how is it fascism to engage in capitalism?
2a) and the law is full of exceptions, prerequisites, superseded, and other qualifiers. So even if you do find a rule you think applies to you, you don’t know that it only applies on a third Thursday of the month in a leap year, after you filed the prerequisite paperwork last year, paid the filing fee, and did a hat dance.
Actually I think he's got a point there. How am I supposed to know all the rules applying to me, if not even experts who study law for years are in agreement about them?
How am I even supposed to know, that there is a law about something?
If this group ended up being the one to abolish private property in real estate, it would be a plot twist that I didn't see coming.
Well, if you look at it, Italian fascism nationalized farmland in the '30s.
I like how point number 2 is just "I am dumb"
No, they are right. In the US national, state, county, and local laws all interact with each other and there is rarely an easy way to get clarification when the statutes are vague and things are mostly done by regulations which may or may not be posted in a publicly available and findable location. Then the odds of the publicly available information being up to date is pretty slim. There is rarely any notification of changes, and if you travel 30 mins to the next town they might have completely different laws with different enforcement methods.
Hell, a lot of statutes have been invalidated by court cases so the laws are on the books but cannot be enforced. I imagine most other countries have a similar blend of different laws at the local and regional levels and weirdness due to litigation.
It really is impossible for the average person to know complex law unless knowing the law is their job, and even then nobody knows all of it and all regulations.
That doesn't mean it is slavery or fascism and that is there this person's valid complaint turned into loony tunes territory.
It's true though. If I wanted to check if doing something specific was illegal I'd have a hard time finding it online officially unless I skimmed through dozens and dozens of legal documents written out in lawyer speak.
To be fair, in this context, the question is "If I want to continue receiving the thing that I agreed to pay for, can I do so without paying for it?"
It's not that the law is really that complicated or hard for these agreements. It's that sovereign citizens can't accept the answer: yes you have to pay for things.
The entire ethos for them that the law is a magic language and if you learn the right spells you can get things for free. It's an endless stream of "without prejudice" "corporation" "coupon" "not for commercial use" incantations... All with the same alchemical purpose:
turn lead into goldturn words into not paying for things.For these people, in their circles, they intentionally make the law complicated, so it aligns with their mystism.
This is complete bullshit. You can easily find out if something is illegal in your town / state / county with a 5 min Google search.
Takes a wise person to willingly admit when they lack knowledge imo
So are all the others, just not quite as plainly.
