I know these sovereign citizen people exist, but sometimes when I read these things, I can't help but think somebody is just fan fic spoofing the whole thing. Like there can't really be anybody this delusional, right?
Maybe don't answer that.
Back when I was a young man, I loved stupid conspiracies. I thought it was like the old nosleep on Reddit. Everyone who was saying these things were in on the joke and everyone who took it seriously and complained about it was just stupid.
I learned better. I was joking but a lot of people weren't. I realized one of my exes was a serious conspiracy theorist and not just playing along with me. It was a sad day.
A sad moment in my life was when I watched my beloved shit posting flat world Facebook group went from a place where we had debates using incredibly flimsy science about flat earth to real people not realizing it was a joke and taking it as fact.
The smirks and winks lead to shouting matches. Silly banter ended up being personal attacks and threats. The monthly "long rant" became daily.
The crazy conspiracy theorists folks won.
AndbThe "birds aren't real" folks are going to get it next.
This is the conclusion I came to years ago being an edgelord. I used to make all sorts of off color, shit jokes to lampoon racists, sexists, etc. When I realized some people laughing were doing so for all the wrong reasons because it's actually been normalizing it... shit. Whoops
“I want to not pay back loans. I’m petitioning magistrate and god to have it erased. And if the govt can throw in a car, fully paid for, power windows, power everything, cherry red. That’s also what I want. Oh, and my free gas card. Abra-cadabra? Is that the code word?”
Dude I know one with a law degree. Law firm I've consulted at for decades accidentally hired him. Favor to a friend of one of the partners. He lasted maybe three months before he committed major malpractice and quit before they could fire him?
It's a hell of an act if so. These groups have thousands of people.
That's honestly how I look at most of reality for a while now.
I don't understand what this person is expecting even in the context of their delusion
Maybe having the lender agree to an unsecured loan and release the lien upon them selling the car privately?
This way the lender gets more than they would at private auction and the borrow still owes them the balance (same as if it were repossessed and auctioned off)
negotiating a surrender of the vehicle and the balance still owed might have worked, but i doubt it would have been approved by the lender here. they know they're dealing with half a rotting brain cell with an empty wallet and no prospects. they'd rather start their well-tuned process to default the loan, recover and sell the car, bill the balance, and then either file for judgement/garnishment or sell it to a debt collector.
They want free stuff and don't want to pay for things. That's the entire depth of their statement. SovCits want to take advantage of the system and get away with it but they lack the money, knowledge, or understanding of the system they are fighting to actually get anywhere.
They want to know how to transfer a car from their corporate name to their natural name.
The loan is for their corporate self, so their natural self is not responsible. But the govt has taken money from them so they want the money they took under their corporate name transferred to their natural name,
Simple.
A loophole. A cheat code for real life. Any way to escape the inevitable consequences of their actions.
The fantasy world these dumbasses inhabit must be great. In it, you're just one argument away from having everything magically go in your favor.
Aside imbecile posting that, what are 'Friends in law' suggesting to the OP? The rabbit hole continues with more dumb proposals?
OP is here for you!
Oh my god.
[Idiocy intensifies]
I think that's the name of the Facebook group he's getting these from
i know it is. i wonder what other group members suggests, as fun quite possibly continues past the op.
OMG. Sorry, the stupid-o-meter just broke.
They probably replaced it with a meter of their own.
Meta
Loans are bullshit and should be erased.
Predatory interests on loans are bullshit and should be erased. The credit system was invented in 1989 to insure predatory lenders while screwing average folk out of their money. That should be erased.
But the basic concept of "we work out a deal where I pay in chunks for an amenity only a wealthy person could afford outright" is fine. It's how society keeps itself afloat in a flawed capitalist system.
Ok but let me take out an enormous loan before we erase them
