tuesday was the last hope. we are living the worst-case scenario and it's not going to get better. figure out what you need to do to get out of the country NOW. you have a little less than 2 months
I am having this conversation with my wife. I'm 16 years into a military career (so 4 years from retirement), and she was talking about moving to Canada. So for a thought exercise, I looked it up, and with my skill set it would be pretty doable.
But I reminded her that we aren't the ones in danger. A cis-het white family of natively-born Americans in the military with the economic stability to fly to Canada on a moments notice for an abortion (she was worried about our daughter) is not in particular danger. But us leaving means we can't fight against this, and makes it worse for those who can't just leave.
We'll see how it is in 2029 when I'm due to retire, if the country can pull its head out of its ass or if Project 2025 goes full swing followed by no legitimate election. But for now, we'll stay and push back.
Genuine question: AFAIK the Republicans would like to use the US Military against its own people, as well as disband institutions like the FBI. What would you do if they actually went ahead with that?
I am not in the part of the military they would send for that. But if it were to happen in general? I am not going to pretend to know what I would do until the event actually came up.
Incidentally, when I joined the branch I did, one of the recruiters asked me why I specifically wanted the Coast Guard. I told him if I decide to join something, and doing that put me in a position where I had to do something morally reprehensible to survive (like shoot a 12-year-old protecting his home in some far off country), the fact I had no choice in the moment would be irrelevant, as my choices put me in that position. There's nothing morally ambiguous about saving a person from drowning. (Side note, he thought that was a terrible reason, and I think that guy can fuck himself). So not being put in a position to be used against my own country can be added to that as well (except enforcing boating safety, PUT A LIFE JACKET ON YOUR KID GODDAMMIT).
Oh, and all that was before I learned about the migrant and drug interdiction missions in the Coast Guard, so now I just try to avoid Florida and Southern California for where I get stationed.
You're right that leaving is your best bet. That isn't a reality for millions of queer people, however. Leaving isn't always feasible, or many of the queer people still in deep red states would already be gone.
It's time for us to make moves to prepare ourselves to contend with this administration and political agenda. Networks need to be made, connections between suppliers of DIY hormones and communities at risk of losing Healthcare need to be established.
As much as we need to help people get out, we also need to confront the fact that not everyone can, and this is the reality we live in now. I'm just saying, "Get out while you still can" isn't enough. We need to ready ourselves for a much more long-term fight against this system. Everyone who can should be getting involved.
Also, the US is one of the easiest countries to immigrate to. Canada, most of the EU, and much the Western world at large will really only let you immigrate permanently if you have an ancestral claim that you can directly prove, or if you have certain degrees or skills.
The same issue still arises, that the people who need to immigrate most, cannot afford to and won't be allowed into our country. If you want to change that, get your arse down to your local MPs office and push for asylum status for trans americans.
Uh, I don't think Canada wants to have a bunch of disgruntled Americans immigrating up. The Americans as a whole broke your country and you have to live with that and push for better turn out next time instead of just invading into another country.
Pssh, I'm from Canada, I say let the gays come on up. Gays, make sure to check out where you're moving to though. We're always importing american politics, and you couldn't pay me to visit Alberta right now.
Why don't you want to support your fellow humans when they're being repressed? We're in a comment thread about an article where the newly elected administration is telling people that they want to criminalize and punish people because of their orientation and expression.
Project 2025 says that being in drag is a sex crime against children, and that pedophiles should be punished by death. Read: trans people should be put to death.
If your heart isn't open to asylum seekers, then who is it open for?
They will let them in if they meet the qualifications as usual. But they have limited slots and favor people who fit needed careers. Like medical, tech, etc. additionally, a chunk of savings is usually desirable.
Canada won’t complain about getting a ton of extra highly trained people working remote jobs bringing in money as long as they are not dependent on social services.
But… there are a ton of Americans and not a lot of Canadian housing.
It's unfortunately very difficult to up and immigrate to Canada. You typically need a spouse who is a citizen, or have a very valuable skillset to offer. I believe you can come here as a foreign worker and apply for permanent residency after working full-time for a year, but I don't know what the stipulations or rate of acceptance is there.
I personally immigrated here from the States back in 2017 to be with my wife, and the process was grueling. They require a lot of evidence to prove the relationship was not initiated with the intent of immigrating.
No. Stay and deal with your mess and reap what you sowed. Leave us out of it. Don't come here and exacerbate our already bad housing crisis, and create more competition for jobs. Last thing we need is Americans spreading out and making other countries stupid like them.
Interesting immigration policy you've got there, sounds oddly familiar. Fits right in with the "treat a huge diverse chunk of people as one kind of thing" rhetoric, cool stuff!
No, see, I never made that argument at all. The comparison I'm making is about the ideology and policy you're espousing, and the way it lines up with generic extremist ideology toward their own chosen out groups.
For some actual dummy shit, the term "American" necessarily and literally includes multiple downtrodden ethnic minorities. Not to mention folks of every other stripe. That's the whole issue with the way you're phrasing things.
no one owes americans anything. those of us who voted for harriss hoping for things to get better need to come to terms with the fact that the world fucking hates americans, regardless of what we believe
yes, americans are mind-bogglingly stupid, only because no one did anything to address that problem
You're assuming we're all responsible for the current mess, a hallmark of the simple thinking that America promotes.
2020 was the first presidential election I could vote in, and I saw Biden as the worst candidate outside of the billionaires. I come from a family that's fought for the less fortunate and resisted the degenerative politics that fucked our country and planet. They're saddened every day by the fact that they couldn't protect our future against the selfish interests of oligarchs.
How the fuck are we responsible for this? We didn't sow this yield! We did everything we could, but it wasn't enough.
You're as dumb as the worst of us. You probably think we're comparable to European countries in scale. We're closer to the EU than Germany or France.