Steam Deck OLED now supports HDR Remote Play from PS5, unlike PlayStation Portal

D-word, so you’re saying I can play PS5 from a dang steam deck?

D-word

Dagnabbit?
- Defibrillator?
Via Chiaki evidently.
Been able to all along Xbox as well. Saved my bacon when I ruptured my Achilles tendon.
- Hope you’re feeling better. Good to know it’s possible, as I’ve got more cash invested into the PlayStation platform than I probably should have.
Yes, it's a pretty popular option.

Sony's own PS Remote Play app has always been garbage. Even on PC, on phones, on anything. I never had faith they'd improve it for Portal. Sony has only disappointed me nonstop since 2011. Steam has only continued to win me over time and time again.

Ever since the PS3 they have been a generation behind Xbox for online services and connectivity in their consoles.

So I seriously miss the target audience of PS Portal? Are they only targeting people who want to use this device in their own houses either in the bed or on the sofa? And that's a pretty steep price for such a useless device.

That fact that it can't even play direct from the PS+ cloud gaming service shows what a half-baked device this is.

In order for me to be interested it would have to be able to stream games in from my PS5, PS+ cloud gaming, and my PC. Maybe add Xbox GamePass streaming as well.

Realistically it's going to have to come from a third party if it wants all that, at which point you might as well just have a controller grip for your phone.
- I got a razer kishi for my phone and prevented me from getting a steam deck. If I didn't have a switch already the steam deck would have been awesome though
Yes. I questioned the usefulness of such a device on it's announcement (on Reddit) and was swarmed by fanboys. I've not seen that on Lemmy, so we might be safe.

Are there any privacy or security concerns using chiaki?

Nope. It is all local

Seems like a stupid decision to make remote play from PS5 system agnostic when your own handheld device doesn't even work with it.

Like, ELI5, what kind of executive decision making strategy is at play to completely undermine your unprofitable portable hardware?

Sony has their heads up their asses for a long time now. This is no surprise
- Also sounds like they saw Steam Deck and how everyone started releasing shit to compete, and they couldn't scramble together anything more meaningful.

PS Portal is a terrible device, but also name another device in the $200 price range you can use to stream PS5 games with good ergonomics and a good display...

E: please read the last 5 words again before suggesting tablets and phones.

You can buy a $15 phone clip to attach your phone to your controller, and enjoy remote play that way.
- Staring at a 6" display is not a good time.
Cellphone

50 usd 5 usd phone case gampad thing
I think the Logitech G Cloud would fit in that category, when on sale (otherwise it's $350 USD, so at that point you might as well get the 64G Deck).
Afaict it's $250 USD with a promo code now and since it's basically a tweaked Android ROM, you can stream Game pass, your PS4/PS5 (via PS Play) or Geforce Now and even do some light emulation (up to DC just fine).
Ergonomics and screen are pretty great from what I recall, after testing one a few months ago.
- I'm seeing it for sale on Amazon for $300 still, and the ergonomics look like crap. PSP has what is widely regarded as the best controller ever made.
I read it again and I will suggest tablets and iPhones with a controller connected.
Backbone One PlayStation Edition will make use of your existing phone screen.
- I actually have a backbone gathering dust. I think it might have seen more use if I wasn’t using an iPhone mini with a tiny screen and bad battery.
- I specifically said "with good ergonomics and a good display".
Samsung Galaxy Tab A.
- Yes because a cheap used tablet is totally comparable to a brand new handheld display with ergonomic controls attached.

Holy cow, this is awesome. Gonna set this up later!

Quite a price difference between them to be fair.

Honestly the PS Portal seems extremely expensive for a remote play only device. I feel like the Deck is a much better value proposition with it being able to play games on it's own and work away from your home network.
- I agree it is. That said. This isn't an even match, and they are sold as two different use cases. One is a full on computer, the other is literally just a single purpose thin client "portal."
  
  You should consider any bells and whistles that come with a 500+ device, like hdr, showing up on a 200 device a friggin miracle bonus.
- Honestly the PS Portal seems extremely expensive for a remote play only device.
  
  Compared to what, exactly?
  
  I feel like the Deck is a much better value
  
  It absolutely is. It's also, at minimum, double the price.
One is a gaming pc, and the other is a controller with a screen that lags doing its one job.
- Fully aware.
  
  Kind of the point I was making. It's a cheaper device for a reason. This is like complaining that a chromebook has no local graphics horsepower. No shit? Why did you buy it expecting that? Oh because you picked the cheapest thing that vaguely resembled the form factor of what you wanted and expected it to do all the things the far more expensive options can?
  
  Neither of these devices are brand gouging, you're getting the hardware capacity you're paying for.
I feel like the fact that this is downvoted is showing the disconnection that Lemmy has as a hub for tech inclined users, I know many people waiting to buy the portal and while I know it's kind of a useless device, it works for a lot of people and $200 is at about that sweet spot.
It isn’t though? PS portal is $200 and first edition Steam decks are going for $300 on eBay lightly used…
- I mean, just going by the feature being discussed here, that refurb non-oled doesn't have HDR.
  
  The steam deck is a better device by far. By leaps and bounds. It is nice that there is a cheaper option for those that already have a Playstation though. You can get a 15 year old BMW for the price of a base kia. It doesn't make KIAs and BMWs comparable vehicles.
  
  Both things can exist and have their niche. This need not be a competition. The steamdeck has actual competition, the PS portal ain't it. It's a different animal that happens to have similar form factor.

Why compare the Portal to the Deck? The Retroid Pocket 3/3+/4/etc. and Ayn Odin are much more comparable (and better I'd say)

Edit to address the down votes: my point is that the Portal is not an arm processor. Hence why I chose arm based devices instead of the Ally or any number of AYANEO handhelds. I think devices in the same device category matter way more than 1st/3rd party offerings. If that were the case, we could talk about how everyone prefers Chiaki or whatever the 3rd party ps streaming app is to the first party offering, etc.

Because it's showing how garbage the Portal is.

The Portal is first party hardware that:

Can only do one job as opposed to the Steamdeck

Does its singular job worse than the Steamdeck does the exact same job
- I don't think this is a completely fair comparison. I have a Steam Deck OLED and I don't have a PS5 or a Portal, but I can see the appeal of the Portal (though initially I thought it was kind of dumb too). The screen is bigger and higher resolution, it's a first party device with pretty much the same ergonomics as the controller you'd be used to, and it is significantly cheaper than any OLED version of the steam deck and roughly half the price of the base model LCD steam deck (with the caveat that the 64GB LCD version can currently be had for $350 "while supplies last").
  
  Is the Steam Deck a great device? Absolutely! It does more than the Portal in that it can play games on its own (and is kind of a full computer), and the price of the Steam Deck is actually insanely good for what it is. The fact that you can set one up for remote play on a PS5 is also pretty cool, and I wouldn't be terribly surprised if people did opt to spend a little more for a Steam Deck vs a Portal...
  
  But realistically if you're a busy parent or something and you just want to play your PS5 around the house (which I thought was a stupid use case, and was a reason I held off on getting a Steam Deck... But it's actually really nice), I can totally see the appeal of just getting the Portal because it's cheaper than a Steam Deck, has a bigger and higher resolution screen (though not OLED), won't need any tinkering at all, and will just have the layout and features you're used to in the controller. It's definitely a relatively niche device, but I don't think it's insanely priced for what it is and I think a decent chunk of people will be happy with it... But if you're not in the target market it might seem a little silly.
  
  As I get older I value money less and time and not having to mess with stuff more. I think the Portal really isn't targeting younger people who are less willing to spend money, and more willing to put up with jankier solutions like just using your phone... It's targeting older people who just want to buy a decent quality thing that will just work out of the box so they can play games while they watch their kids or whatever.