Biden: Israel-Hamas war must end with vision for a 'two-state solution'
Biden: Israel-Hamas war must end with vision for a 'two-state solution'
President Joe Biden Wednesday stressed the conflict spanning Israel and Gaza must end with a vision of a "two-state solution."
At this point, "two state solution" is as believable as "trickle down economics."
How about a one state solution.
That's called future reality
I feel like Biden just keep repeating the talking points that worked for Clinton in the 1990s and being confused why progressives today don't take him seriously. He's better than the other guy by a long shot but his policies are decades old.
Okay, so if a two-state plan is the "old" policy solution what is the new, progressive one?
Admit that the project of establishing a democratic Jewish state has failed, and try to salvage a democratic state out of the rubble.
One Palestinian state and Israel can fuck off to wherever seems to be popular on lemmy.
Yeah but this is also how he sailed through the primary. I don’t know what fucking boomers are out there eating his shit up but they must exist.
Netanyahu has made a two state solution impossible. There are 500,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank who would violently oppose being removed.
100%. The Palestine territories are more like a handful of islands at this point, not a contiguous space.
Just look at this map, and look at how integrated the populations are.
A two-state solution is not viable, not anymore, they have to figure out how to live in peace together. And that means integrating into one country, no more apartheid, equal rights, freedom of religion, the end of the ethno state, the end of the theocratic state.
Upon some reflection, I suspect when politicans are talking about two State solutions today, they don't mean independent countries, they mean Bantustans ... Which isn't going to solve anything, nobody's going to be happy with this
Bantustans is exactly right. They want to enact the South African apartheid model.
Well, Hamas specifically has rejected a 2 state solution twice in recent history. Their official stance is to not negotiate for it and instead kill all jews and end the state of Israel. There's no chance at peace til Hamas is gone, rightwing Israeli government is gone, and Iran's nutjob religious class no longer control the state and export its cancer around the world.
2 states are unviable. There needs to be one inclusive state for all people of the region with serious reparations for the Palestinian people. Dual citizenship if people want it and 2 official langauges.
Peace is the only way forward. It happened in South Africa and Northern Ireland. It can happen.
https://www.theleftberlin.com/why-the-two-state-solution-for-palestine-is-impossible/
It'll never happen. Israel will never allow the possibility for a non-Jewish majority to coalesce and take over the government.
A Belgian model might work. Two or for completeness' sake three (Christians) federal entities, joint army, separate police forces, give municipalities the right to switch who they belong to by 2/3rd majority. Jerusalem becomes federal territory.
I just don’t see it. There are too many vested interests in maintaining an ever-present conflict to justify consolidated power in the hands of those who have it.
I’m going to save this comment and copy and paste it into comments on basically every news story ever.
Im sick of hearing this "two state solutions" like iraeli are incapable of sharing their living space with palestinians. Everybody should chill and start to create bonds. This bs "centuries old enmity" was fabricated and fed through the decades.
Any chance was destroyed when trump officially moved the capital of Israel to Jerusalem.
I propose a no-state solution: Depopulate the area, then seed it with Caesium-135. Area becomes unlivable, and thereby peaceful.
chaotic!
what's some more solutions for the worlds problems?
I think Mr Burns had some pretty good ideas.
I'd argue it's the perfect case for a no-state solution. Multiple faith groups have history in the region, they should rally around that and preserving it instead of some colonialist military state that's practically a U.S outpost in all but name. But blind dogma is rarely conducive to peace I guess.
This issue will fuck him next November.
I can't see Palestine ever accepting a 2SS. What do you think "from the river to the sea" means? The US knows this very well, so they're happy to prop up Israel in a peaceful sounding way that is fully untenable. Maybe some sort of federated solution could be possible, but I've got my doubts there too. Either way, both states would need to compromise for any realistic possibility of peace.
tl;dr: shit's fucked beyond repair :S
It's two-sided. Israel also does not want a functioning Palestinian state that isn't under Israeli domination. Just look at how they treat the West Bank.
The Palestinians already agreed to a 2 state solution at Camp David in 2000. Then Arafat turned around and told Israel and the US to fuck off because he wanted more money.
Biden keeps lying. What else is new?
Remember when Biden said he saw "confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading babies"? Then his office had to clarify that actually no, he didn't. What a horrific and oddly specific thing to lie about.
I was pretty shocked when he said the Oct 7th attacks were "like 15 9/11s". When did we become so sycophantic to Israel that a president could downplay the most sacred American date and receive so little criticism?
Now he wants to give away another $100 billion for war, and I can't afford healthcare. Remember Bidens campaign when "public option" was his #1 talking point? Maybe Grandpa Joe forgot about it, or maybe he was lying the whole time.
Yeah, downvoting cuz of American partisan politics. As a non-american, this whole approach to politics like supporting your fav sports team baffles me. Here in Europe, we try to catch politicians lies, especially when in government. Americans defend their politicians lying to the public. It can't be more bizarre than that. Of course Biden lies with every chance he gets. He is just as rotten as any republican before, but since he is blue (democrat), let's ignore all that lying. Same approach US takes when dealing with Israel.