TIL - After World War II, thousands of Nazis fled to South America along so-called ratlines — often with the help of Catholic clergy
TIL - After World War II, thousands of Nazis fled to South America along so-called ratlines — often with the help of Catholic clergy
After World War II, thousands of Nazis fled to South America along so-called ratlines — often with the help of Catholic clergy. The Vatican is now opening its archives from the time. Will it be a moment of truth?
It's actually not just South America, many other countries, including "first world" nations, let in thousands of Nazis as well
Canada seems to be having a moment with this one. Standing ovation for an open Waffen-SS veteran in parliament was a bad look...
I can't believe the guy showed up. He could be deported. Oh well. 🤷♂️
In 1950, Britain appealed to Commonwealth countries to admit them. Canada agreed to take 2,000, after being assured that their backgrounds had been checked and that they were cleared of complicity in war crimes.
But according to recently released British documents and interviews with officials who conducted the investigations, they were not screened, partly because none of the interrogators spoke their language, Littman said.
Fucking typical lazy arsed British effort.
well, the US government brought all the Nazi scientists over to form NASA, hello Werner Von Braun. the US also imported high SS officers to form the CIA. the powerful gonna power…
And the Soviets took twice as many, but they didn't seem as happy for some reason.
I've got a lovely German style beer stein that was "handcrafted in Brazil," in 1978.
Now why would there be a bunch of nostalgic Germans in Brazil in the '70s? Hmm...
tbh many fled to South Anerica because there were many German immigrants already there, meaning the Nazis didn't stand out.
Also a lot of Jews fleeing the Nazis ended up in South America. My grandparents, for example.
There is some fairly creepy lost history around all that. Lots of documentaries and such have mentioned it over the years. It's a pretty interesting rabbit hole. I'm sure at this point there is also plenty of conjecture, but more than enough is true to be damn creepy.
Here's one such thing -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonia_Dignidad
https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/sinister-sect-colonia-dignidad/
And another:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/quiet-alpine-town-argentina-housed-10664788
What's some good documentaries?
"Hotel Terminus: The Life and Times of Klaus Barbie" is an excellent documentary. It's about Klaus Barbie, the "Butcher of Lyon," who was a Gestapo captain in Vichy France and who later fled to Bolivia, where he lived until he was hunted down and put on trial in the 1980s.
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Terminus:_The_Life_and_Times_of_Klaus_Barbie
Depends on your definition of good. I like fun documentaries, even if I roll my eyes at some of the sensationalism. I just like seeing what they find, whether I can fully buy their hypothesis or not. All that disclaimer is to sort of apologize for this one, which is fun and interesting, but very, very melodramatic in its presentation. 😁
https://www.history.com/shows/hunting-hitler
I know I've seen others, and side-mentions in many, but that's the one that comes to mind most easily. I think there's a lot online also at various sites.
The open Nazis went to South America, the quiet ones were absorbed into the US government, and the Ukrainian Nazis went to Canada
And the scientists the Americans didn't get went to Russia. The space race was a Nazi science competition.
Hey, don't shame that tankie for not understanding the reality of their history! They've been propagandized since they were merely zygotes. Feel bad for 'em.
Mengele trucks, probably a coincidence…
No actually, Josef's family business was making tractors. If you want to hear more about it, I'd recommend the Behind The Bastards Podcast episode about him.
I work with a Brazilian of German descent. The subject of lavosh came up the other day. They gave us a confused look. Wondering why we would want pig slop. Turns out on the farm they were raised that's what they called pig slop. And as far as anyone could find out it's not actually a Portuguese word. Just casual generational antisemitism.🤷♂️ Though once we figured it all out we had a bit of a laugh. Since it wasn't intentional and only a misunderstanding. But yeah, some of the rural parts of Brazil would be bad for most foreigners. Just way worse if you're Jewish. Over which we bonded some because it's a lot like the US.
And as far as anyone could find out it's not actually a Portuguese word. Just casual generational antisemitism.🤷♂️
Maybe it sounds like "lavagem", which actually means pig slop. Basically food or food scraps that spoiled or that's about to spoil and fed to pigs.
I think we don't have enough jews to feed it
Every post I've seen on Lemmy TIL
You don't know what you don't know
Why does he look like Mr Bruce from The Correspondents
This is the reason why there are a lot of blonde-haired and blue-eyed people in Brazil. Gisele Bündchen for example (not the best example, but the first that came to mind), clearly a German last name, yet she's Brazilian.
Confidently incorrect.
This was in another moment, a lot of Germans and Italians came to Brazil after the slavery abolition years before the first WW as immigrants in an attempt of the Brazilian crown to make the white population proportionally bigger.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0RdwRaWYAA9a2Q.jpg
The US internationalised nazism, not defeat it.
A German chancellor was a Nazi. Young Germans in the sixties didn't stand for it though
https://www.dw.com/en/the-nazi-hunters-how-a-slap-in-the-face-brought-about-justice/a-57464177
There’s much more. Read or watch some videos on the Gehlen Organisation. It literally is the direct precursor of the current German central intelligence agency. That might be a good start.
But also just read the wiki articles I shared to the other fucker who responded to me. And think of all the shit that’s not on Wikipedia cause it’s not allowed…
this all appears to be false. I am also finding it difficult to find the positions mentioned to verify this post.
Ffs it’s on fucking Wikipedia (famously a whitewashed cesspit):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger - under “Postwar”: “In April 1961, he was appointed Chairman of the NATO Military Committee[5] in Washington, DC, where he served until 1964 when he retired”.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Steinhoff - FIRST FUCKING SENTENCE: “Johannes "Macky" Steinhoff (15 September 1913 – 21 February 1994) was a Luftwaffe fighter ace during World War II, German general, and NATO official.”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Speidel - Again, first paragraph: “(…) a major figure in German rearmament, integration into NATO”.
And my favourite, not in the photo, but the FUCKING FOUNDER OF THE CURRENT INTELLIGENCE AGENCY OF GERMANY: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Gehlen - THE NAZI ASSASSIN HIMSELF.
You barely did any research and you come saying ALL appears to be false? When EVERYTHING about the picture is true? Get the fuck out of here. You either are an ill-intentioned Nazi or you are ignorant and proud of it.
