Daily Discussion Thread: Mon 04 Sep 2023
Daily Discussion Thread: Mon 04 Sep 2023
Welcome to the Melbourne Community Daily Discussion Thread.
So, my downvoter is obviously targetting anything I wrote with obvious transgender references. Mods, I can't report them, but its very obvious. I can't even block them. It's deliberate and designed to wear me down. People say, be resilient, but that doesn't help. People say their allies, but it's all talk and no real action. .
Also, Nath, Please take the time to read the report into trans hate. https://transjustice.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Fuelling-Hate-Anti-Trans-Abuse-Harassment-and-Vilification-WEB-SINGLES-1-1.pdf
It's pointless writing no transphobia if you don't know how to recognise it, where it comes from or what to actually do about it. Blocking and banning people does nothing, people just re-sign up and continue their beligerence in a new name. This is why I'm thinking of leaving and it means the transphobic loser wins. It's highly likely to be one of the regular posters here too.
There was a show on channel 7 last night again spreading complete lies about trans and gender diverse people and used people's photos without their consent. This is real and why I'm not in the mood much to report people here. I'll be writing complaint letters today and helping those who are now suffering because of their parents and such watched this crap and are fielding questions on where to turn for support. I do all this as a volunteer. I have a normal job too. I'm about at my capacity of dealing with the microaggressions and I'd like you to use what powers you have to stop the fucker from downvoting trans content. It seems silly and small, but no one else has been targeted.
Also remember, I now am about to catch public transport to about the only safe job I can find at the moment looking obviously trans the morning after this bullshit aired. It's not that I'll think I'll be targeted, but it's fucking anxiety inducing. Just remember, I'm not making up straw man arguments to bitch. I could a victim, THIS MORNING.
Sorry kids, have a nice day and enjoy bacon's breakfast.
I think downvotes are completely anonymous?
I do recall seeing something that they actually aren't and instance owners are able to see who downvotes things, but that was a couple of months ago and may have been changed. I'll see if I can find the post
This is dreadful. You take care.
Thanks mate. I'm not one to just sit around complaining, I do stuff, but heck, some complaints are worth making.
Also, Nath, Please take the time to read the report into trans hate. https://transjustice.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Fuelling-Hate-Anti-Trans-Abuse-Harassment-and-Vilification-WEB-SINGLES-1-1.pdf
Have just read this. I'm not sure grim reading like this should look so colourful and bright.
Interestingly, bad-faith participants submitted 80% (32) of their responses on just three of the nine days the survey was open and often only a few minutes apart. This concentration of responses suggests that the study was circulated among anti-trans networks on social media, either publicly or privately.
Notably, these respondents tended to skip most questions on the survey, answering only the open-text questions with comments ranging from a few sentences to lengthy essays. Several included links to identical anti-trans resources, further indicating a calculated approach to taking the survey.This is pretty awful, but it's also pretty hopeful. 40 people out of 3,099 were Anti-trans. And to find that many, they spread the survey among hate groups and brigaded the responses. That actually gives me hope. It tells me that yes, there are morons out there, but even when banding together, they're a tiny minority. Take some heart that 98.71% of the population supports trans rights. Yes, you're in the trenches dealing with this every day, but you are surrounded by people who are on your side.
As to "all talk and no action", how can we help? We want to help.
Thanks Nath, I really really appreciate that, yeah they chose the colours according to their branding. I'm kinda busy this evening and maybe later tonight depending on how many emails I get, but I'll send you through some details on how to help.
I believe you. I wish people would just mind their own business rather than harassing marginalised people based on what the TV says.
It’s weird saddo fascist shit and being pushed so aggressively on trans people now that gay people are more protected/are less of a socially accepted target
The driving lesson went great, I even drove on one of the main roads. The instructor is very nice and really calm and understanding. Will definitely do another lesson with her.
Slow start to the day but I just wanna say good morning motherfuckers. I'm getting shit done and feeling confident about it!
Sounds like you're all outta gum
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God I absolutely despise when those executive high up gronks from companies go on the radio and and act like they understand. Fuck off, you don't understand shit, you would have no problems with like... Being afford to live
Like the Qantas CEO saying things like "We've listened and so we're changing" or any of the supermarket reps. All of it's just fluff and BS
Yeah like the mega rich ones who sleep "rough" for one night to show solidarity to homeless. Build a fucking shelter arsehat.
If only there were some practical solutions they could implement immediately. Like quit avoiding your taxes. Or pay your employees properly.
Years ago my mate got a job at some sleep-rough-for-the-homeless gig at the MCG. Basically camping on the MCG field with cheap camp equipment to generate corporate goodwill. It rained. 90% of people left. Housemate came home with as many breakfast packs as he could carry. Like 50 of them. We all ate well for a few days.
So after a few weeks of mental anguish I have applied for four jobs today.
I'm just trying to celebrate the small wins, because big ones seem so far out of reach still.
best of luck to you!
Gotta be in it to win it mate.
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Good luck!
I have no desire to leave the house due to excessive Weatherness so I'm instead doing weird house things like sorting the towel cupboard and washboarding stains off cleaning cloths in between bouts of work.
I also hope to solve the eternal conudrum of where to store the clotheshorse.
Biscoff Cheesecake 🔥
that looks pretty yummy 🤤
How was it?
It sounds like it would be sickly sweet.
Was a bit on the sweet side but it’s a small portion so…10/10 would do it again
I've seen enough movies to know something is buried here...
In-N-Out woot!
I loved how empty of pedestrians US streets are. Americans don't walk anywhere, except maybe in New York. They have drive-through everything. Even ATMs.
At San Diego zoo, this was a superpower. I walked between exhibits, everyone else took little shuttle busses. By moving between wavews of visitors, I had each exhibit to myself pretty much.
Drive through banks and pharmacies really blew my mind. What the fuck.
My guess. A burger wrapper.
It's either buried, or a portal/checkpoint waiting to be activated.
Won a grand last night and decided to grab a snack and head to bed. Woke up at 7am and decided to go downstairs to cross off one of my to-do list items: McDonald's McGriddles.. $7 each? Yikes that is STEEP! Still, crossed that off the list, won another $600 and have returned to bed.
Photo of a McGriddle in case you're unfamiliar. It's like a McMuffin but little maple syrup infused pikelets instead of muffins.
that look like some kind of unnatural chimera , two delicious puffy tender pikelets and that bacon stuff🤯
and good work on the winnings 🍻
🤤I know what I want for breakfast this morning
I used to LOVE the Maccas UK bagels. Not a fan of the Maccas egg, but this has like scrambled eggs in it, was really nice.
Reminds me of a fried McMuffin. Looks pretty nice, though US$7 seems a bit steep for a tiny thing like that.
Went to a town out in the Arizona desert called Oatman today, out on the famous Route 66. Thing about Oatman is that it's home to wild donkeys who just hang about and receive pats and nibbles from people.
I have a few great photos but I'll post this one.. because it's always good to start the work week with a little ass.
rolls out of bed and into floor
whines
Rolls out door and down hallway
continues whining
stubs a toe
whines
goes back to bed
Went through gtown station and accidentally got 2 potato cakes.
I said never again before.
i feel great shame.
Back on the wagon m'boy
Those wheels have fallen off :(
Had my first PT sesh since before lockdown today. Fuck I feel good! Ready to smash out a day of work.
Enjoy your day everyone ❤️
I just fed my poor innocent cat her laxative… 😔 There will be tummy aches tonight. Cuddles will be dispensed.
Unrelated, does life lately feel incredibly tough for everyone else? Like you work hard but never catch a break and nothing can ever go smoothly
Been feeling a little bit of that ever since the pandemic started.
Not necessarily long COVID, but just that everything got that bit harder, and everyone has become a bit less forgiving since. At the very least, prices have shot up.
People generally more tetchy or much nicer and understanding. iow, a bit of polarisation there
Things are generally ok for myself and the ProcrastiFamily, but the Voice stuff is giving me huge anxiety. I’m seeing so much racism and hate online and can’t even imagine how First Nations people must be feeling at the moment.
The wind is making me feel very unsettled. I feel like I should be doing something, but I don't know what. I'm trying to avoid filling my time by constant eating. I did finish off my gardening asignments this morning, but am struggling to focus on the housing unit now. Maybe I should try vacuuming the house. Then the cat can join me in being unsettled too.
I really dislike the north wind. Gets me jumpy all the time. At it's worst in summer heat and you can smell the breath of the dragon and hear it roar.
join me on the walk we fly together
Ate too much and now I'm fat
Chillin' in my oodie with the cat
Rice and broccolini, egg, mettwurst
I'm going nuclear, I'm gonna burst.Melbcat has been to the vet… Unpleasant, she hated it but there have been some promising results and there’s follow up medicine to give her. She’s got another appointment booked in in case she needs to go back.
Venus is looking awesome up there, so bright.
My partner is in a new role and is run off her feet. I have had nothing to do at work for about a week now....
Today was a rest day for me from exercises but not anything else. Work was flat out, which I don't have any issues with handling. Everything is organised and scheduled and methodical at work. I can handle every single appliance and piece of equipment running all at once with everyone conversing and the radio over the top with no problems.
It was at home later on that I started to feel a bit overwhelmed and feeling like a kind of chaotic sensory overload was happening. The hasty cooking of dinner for hungry family waiting, quickly trying to tidy the house which is always in a worse state than when I left this morning and my efforts feel futile, noise from everyone's screens, my MILs TV blaring through the wall from the next room, the drummer from the band a few doors down practising, the wind buffeting the house, the ceaseless requests for post dinner food, drinks, snacks and attention from every family member, Mr Peeler making lots of "in pain and everything is hard" noises.. it sort of all got a bit much? I went to my room and did some deep breathing/meditation and managed to calm down and block a lot of it out. Haven't had to do that for a while. Now I feel sort of muted and tired, a bit deflated or something. Just tired I guess.
That's an intense day, I thought mine was bad with the shithead drivers on the way to seek end-of-life care for our eldest kitty at the vets (great news...she's in for a few more innings yet). Can the post-dinner crowd sort themselves out?
Sorry to hear about your kitty struggling with health, but I'm glad you've got some more time with her. The post dinner demands couldprobably be sorted out by themselves but I think in asking me to do it, the kids are asking me to show them I care after not seeing me all day. It's just hard to juggle everyone's needs. Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot.
So I bumped into someone who used to live at my previous place at the shops today. It brought back so much fear and trauma I didn't even know was there. I'm not sure he recognised me, but I froze up as soon as I recognised him and basically ran out of the shops. I'm still really kind of terrified now, because he tends to fixate on things a lot, and although I'm not sure he immediately recognised me, I saw him thinking. He's also the type of person to not let things go and obsess over them until he gets extremely angry and goes on a warpath.
But now I know he visits my closest shops, not really sure what to do. I can't exactly keep going back there, but if he goes to those shops there's a moderate probability he lives around the same area I do. So that's an absolutely terrifying thought
Deep breaths. He might be a one time visitor to those shops. He may not have recognized or noticed you at all. Do you have alternative shops you can go to? This might be a good way to handle this. Even if it means travelling a bit longer or further to get there. Maybe give it a month before visiting your current shops again, then check out the area to see if he is visible before venturing into any enclosed space. You got this. Sending you confidence vibes, and a hug if you want one.
I asked around, apparently he frequents them, so I guess it is time to find a new shops. I normally only go there to buy meat from the butcher though, so I suppose it's not a great loss. He most definitely saw me, and I could just about see him thinking when he did, so I do think it's quite likely he saw me, and also quite likely he will obsess over it until he gets really angry
Thanks for the support and hugs
I’m sorry, that’s the worst. Just when you thought you were free of it all. I’m hoping he goes after the wrong person and they adjust his attitude
Yeah it's quite shit. I'm somewhat holding out hope he's sought help and isn't as violent now, but either way it brought back a whole lot of stuff I wasn't expecting to think about in the middle of shopping
Giving into the urge that is largerly being fed by the windy overcast weather to sit my arse on the couch and reschedule adult things for tomorrow.
Sun!!!!
Wild weather incoming later today though.
Not any more.
Whoops. Meant to spend half an hour fixing up this code so it doesn't annoy me, but ended up spending 3 hours rewriting parts of it.
got a new jigsaw today, it's lovely :) I love the ones of paintings.
spoiler
Swan Lake?
L'etoile
I have secured a metric fuck-tonne of Fancy Feast cat food free of charge. The thing is it went out of date end of August. Does that stuff really go off in such a manner that not even iron guts felines can’t eat it? I mean, cats can eat some weird shit, should this be a concern?
I reckon the cat would let you know.
Tinned food basicallly does not go off. Some foods can slowly change things like texture or nutrient availability (especially vegetables) so it might not be quite as good after a while, but is a long and ongoing process. The dates on tinned food are basically a manufacturer's best guess as to when the quality of the food will have deteriorated to the point they don't recommend it as still being at its best, and they range from conservative estimates to completely made up. Especially if it is only just out of date I would have absolutely no hesitation in using it.
Oh Kay! Thanks rave!
It should be ok for as long as there’s no deep rust, deep dents, swelling, or hissing of gas/spurting of food when you open it. https://www.thespruceeats.com/how-long-does-canned-food-really-last-5114518
Taste and smell aren’t always indicators of safety so look to the other signs for that. Thankfully botulism is really rare these days so if the can is in good shape and contents seem fine you should be ok to feed it
Thank you!
I wouldn't believe so.
Am supposed to go to a physio appointment today but I think I'll cancel. Between having a shit sleep, and having to go see a dude about a car at some point today I just can't be bothered hiking all the way out east.
Chest infection is not fun. Stomach hurts from a night spent coughing.
The rains have arrived in Ringwood. It's very dark and grey and Miss Meow is convinced that must mean it is dinner time.
Bleh, have to do some compulsory training after work.
Praying it doesn't take too long so I don't get stuck here too late. Body is in a bit of pain as well which is making it hard to finish the day off.
Where's the nice sun gone? :(
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MmmmmmmcGriddle!
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Did I miss breakfast? How about discount coles chicken skewers for brunch and coffee or am I stretching the friendship.
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Owing to the doughnuts discontinuation, breakfast remains complimentary as compensation
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check radaroh i should be going out right NOW okay
Hope everyone had a great weekend.
I've got a driving lesson today and I am so bloody terrified.
if you're doing it at a professional company, your instructor has their own set of peddles. You'll be fine.
YOU CAN DO IT!
You can doo et! Bite et's freekin steering wheel off Ozzy!
“The road to nowhere leads to me”
- O. Osbourne
Gross warning
feels like I'm coughing up pure rubber at this point. Its so thick its getting caught in my throat and triggering my gag reflex so I almost vomit. and cause its barely moving im just coughing and coughing and coughing. Its not TOOO bad whilst the suns up, but at night I can hardly sleep.
Chest infection? That’s the worst. It’ll do you good to get it out.
Definitely get a chesty cough syrup, heaps of fluid, try a humidifier or carefully breathing steam, and either get someone to pound you on the back or hang off the edge of the bed coughing. Keep eating heaps even if you don’t feel like it. Protein and carbs.
Sleeping propped up or in a prone position might help with breathing. You might also need to go back to the doctor
yep seems like it. Trying to get it all out but it only wants to cough up at night. Bloody annoying. I've drank so much its not even funny.
That sounds so awful! I really hope you get well soon.
I am really loving the temperature. Not the wind. But this is good enough for me to finish lunch quickly and get another walk.
Appointment with DES company went well - I think I made brownie points by taking the appointment even if I was exempt and touching base with them.
Also dropped off a stack of stuff at the op shop and did a Coles run, so that's the errands out of the way before more Weather.update on automation server naming:
a friend suggested Claude
as in Rains
As in there will come soft....I gotta say, their suggestion has shot right to the goddamn top, with August as a femme variant
when it messes up you can call it Clod.
I got a great hair cut, but my hairdresser curled it so much it somehow looked like I had more hair then before (but I trust him) and now that I've washed it, I can say, there is significantly less hair and my trust was well placed.
Must be one of those magical hairdressers you find in video games, who can somehow add more hair to your head.
damn, the weather is going to turn to shit, I better grab my raincoat and put on a warm jumper 🤬
I was looking for a airfryer curry potato croquette using potenta recipe and would you believe nothing even comes close. So I'm going to make my own.
How did it turn out?
Oh I got side tracked so I'll have a go at it tomorrow. I will post results asap.
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Alright DT I need some brains trust help with this from anyone in a more corporate or structured setting. Or with experience in these kinds of things. Doing some furious googling now as well but there's so many choices.
What MS Office product would you most recommend using to create and share training guides / documentation / knowledge base? Something that's browser based, the pages link to each other, can support inline images and videos, and allows multiple editors with edit tracking, a bit like a wiki but less dense. But nowhere near as technical as github.
Well I think there's only two choices here. OneNote or SharePoint.
I would personally get started with OneNote since it is free, and you can see if it makes it feel limited or totally ticks all the boxes.
I should clarify we have a company office licence that includes SharePoint and Yammer and most everything. We've only ever used SP as basically an online version of our folders though and nobody's ever investigated the other functionalities like pages and lists and what have you. Guess I should look into that. Many thanks!!
E: looking at the two it looks like SP might be the better option
I worked in an org that used Sharepoint as a team-generated wiki and it was surprisingly effective once everyone got over the initial "what do I write here can I just write anything" hurdle.
Rain just arrived here in Thornbury. Glad I made it home from work before it hit. Everything very very steamy. Am re-thinking dinner plans to something that won't add further humidity to the kitchen.
Avocado toast with smoked salmon, scrambled eggs and Roma tomatoes here.
potato gems with lamb and green beans here
Oh twinsies. Green bean.
My blackhole of a suburb is finally getting some of todays rain! Honestly, I can't wait to move back East next year, sick of getting nothing but wind and the odd five second trickle.
It seems there’s a lot of good cooks here. While we’re on the topic of food safety, how do you properly transfer raw meat (especially mince) to the pan?
I learned to cook decades ago at home so plenty of bad habits could have been picked up. It wasn’t unheard of to just push the mince into the pan with the cooking utensil and carry on, but someone who worked hospo told me doing that wasn’t safe/hygienic. (Obviously the browned batch was removed first before adding a new one, or if in a big hurry and the inevitable stewing didn’t really matter it was done all at once. It was cooked thoroughly in a large pan.)
Were they right and I was taught wrong? (Very possible.) Or were they being picky? (They tended to be a highly critical one-up sort of person who would backseat you on any task.)
Maybe it matters less for when there’s further cooking, like for bolognese sauce, but if it’s for something re-added at the end or served straight up I do have doubts.
Since hearing that when I cook I now try to use something separate like tongs or fork to transfer raw meat to the pan. And wash that utensil last/separate.
Mince is a separate category all by itself. High risk of contamination purely because there are a lot of surfaces that have touched implements during the grinding/chopping. However, all meats are pretty much OK if they reach 55 deg celsius which will kill all bacteria. Basically, if it reaches simmer point (just under 100 deg celsius) you are fine as long as the heat has penetrated through the meat. Which is where mince, having small particles, if fine if the mixture simmers for a bit - that is, more than 1 minute.
Roasts and steaks are a bit different, as the interior of the meat hasn't (usually) been contaminated, only the surface. So the surface has to reach a high enough temperature, but the interior can cook at quite a low temperature and still be OK bacterially speaking. And is juicier that way. Plastic packaging gives me the heaves. Ideal environment for bacterial and fungal growth - high humidity and temperature range in the danger zone unless your fridge (and shopping basket) is very cold. Vacuum packaging is marginally better but I still reckon is a bit sus. But this could be because I'm a bit old-fashioned that way.
Re: implements. Any implement is fine if it heats up as per above. Wooden spoons are probably the easiest to use as they heat up to bacteria-killing temperature just fine. Some interesting research has been done on bacterial contamination of wooden implements and chopping boards. Apparently it takes 24 hours and a clean wooden spoon/board has killed most bacteria. This doesn't happen with any other material.
Plastic implements need to be kept scrupulously clean, as they don't handle high heat as well. Metal implements (if left in the dish to heat up) are fine. Silicone implements worry me a bit, but I consider and treat them as plastic and so far so good.
The really important bit is to wash the chopping board and implements very well in hot soapy water, rinse in cold water and air dry protected from dust. Also to wash hands etc. well before and after handling meat of any sort.
Beyond that, it is possible to be too persnickety.All very well said. The thing I would add is that contamination is somewhat "dose dependent" and you don't need to get rid of 100% of the bacteria for it to be safe to eat. You just need to reduce the amount to what your body is able to deal with (which will vary from person to person)
The biggest risk is situations that allow bacteria to breed - so using one set of tongs to move a steak into the pan, then using the same pair to transfer the cooked meat to the plate is quite low risk because the amount of bacteria that could have been transferred to the tongs and back to the steak is pretty tiny and would not be enough to cause harm. However if you were planning on cooling the same steak to cut up and use in a salad the next day it becomes riskier, because that tiny amount of bacteria is being time and opportunity to grow before you eat it. Similarly using the marinade your meat has been in as a baste at the end of cooking is risky because the marinade is an environment that allows bacteria to breen and build up to harmful amounts.
The time issue is also a reason why some things can be safe for a home cook but unsafe in a commercial environment - large batches of food take longer to heat and cool, and are often kept waiting longer to be served, so they are in the "danger zone" where bacteria can breed and increase for a longer time.
That’s good, I observe all that and the meat doesn’t hit a chopping board. Yes, it’s possible this person was just finding fault again
For mince I open the packet with a knife and up end it into the pan and use my wooden spoon to chop it up. I then use a spoon rest. I think the problem lies with using a utensil on raw chicken or fish then using it on cooked food.
Yes, sometimes I open the packet with a knife and use that to push but thinking on it that introduces bacteria from the packaging.
I use paper towel as a utensil rest or hang the working end off the edge but might stand it vertical in a Pyrex jug
Nothing goes between raw and cooked. I’ve got a 3 set of dedicated chopping boards I don’t mix. I hate my fridge because the coldest compartment for fish/dairy/meat is at the very top and the vegetable crisper at the bottom! You’re not meant to have raw meat stored over other foods 😬 (Seriously why is raw meat stored over the salad)
I use a spoon or fork to put the meat in then use a separate cooking utensil
I use separate everything for raw meat
It does seem safest
I do it that way, push it out with the utensil I was using. Anecdotal, but I haven't had an issue 🤷♀️
Heh. It was bugging me to think I had been doing it wrong
Anyone ever replace a thermocouple on a gas stove?.... Seems like it'll be one of those things that costs a lot given the part will be $20...
Those things have thermocouples?
I thought it was just a fancy brick-lump on the gas tap.
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