Credulous is the word.
Under the guise of objectivity he gives all fringe opinions equal significance.
Edit: here's a good explanation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZAQYI_hYp0
I'm okay with skeptical and verifying but he doesn't challenge all his guests equally. I'm not saying he should be perfect, but there are some really far out ideas that need more questioning before I'm personally satisfied.
he is a cunt, literally lied about how he heard they are putting cat litter into classes so that kids eho identify as cats have somewhere to go, then when called out on it that it's bullshit he just said it's a joke or something.
the real reason litter was being put into classes was so that if a school shooting happens kids have somewhere to go and it doesn't go everywhere
it's covered in Some more News' Moral panic video
I will also say it's 2023, some things are past even being sceptical about.
If you bring on a flatearther you aren't being sceptical, you're a moron.
His mind's so open his brain fell out
Nice diction.
Nice diction bro
I love that though. I want to hear these wack jobs talk. I don’t listen to get smarter, just like I don’t go to McDonalds for a fine cooked meal.
And that's fine, if you understand that these are wack jobs who shouldn't be taken seriously. Most of Rogan's listeners definitely don't
Nah he just a douche
Joe think you are wrong.
The problem with Rogan is that he doesn't have the knowledge or qualifications to push back against people spewing bullshit on his show, and so he ends up essentially making fringe, pseudo-scientific ideas seem equal to the mainstream expert consensus view.
And the outspoken wrong on the show people are oftentimes cool and charismatic, so people trust them.
the problem with rogan is that he agrees with the worst people on his show. he doesn't push back because he doesn't want to. he peaked on news radio.
They're not wrong.
Nah they are wrong, Joe isn't a dumb guy, he's not doing what he's doing because he's some dumb meathead, he's doing it for money, fame, and to finally be part of the in-groups, which means power, he finally has a president(Trump) that accepts him and hob knobs with him.
Joe has always been a cynical self serving libertarian type, if you went back and listened or watched some of his old standup comedy you would get a better idea of how far Rogan has fallen, he's become a lot of what he hated. There was a time when people used to think that Joe would be the next George Carlin, now he's just a more palatable and successful Alex Jones.
Haha holy shit, it's wild to even see Joe and George in the same sentance. It's like thinking maybe the PT Cruiser could be the spiritual successor to the 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 😂
People always think people they disagree with are more Machiavellian than they usually are.
He's not an idiot or anything, but he's pretty ignorant about a lot of topics, particularly science. He's quick on the uptake, but he isn't good at understanding how things fit together
That's fine, it's a fantastic way to do interviews. It's a stand-in for the audience - he says "I'm a dumb guy good at punching, so can you break it down really simple?" People that are sharp don't feel patronized, and people that are actually dumb feel it's much more approachable
The problem is somewhere along the way, Joe started believing people were there for him and not the guest, and he started doing more talking and less listening when he doesn't agree with what's being said (especially since he has some pretty bad takes)
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Alex Jones is pushing it a bit but I get what you are saying
We need to know though, how good is Joe with a bow on a horse?
Lol, it kinda reminds me of Joe's whole "we've never seen a gorilla at peak gorilla" take.
Joe is short, abuses steroids, probably isn't too flexible, I can definitely see him falling off of the horse a lot while trying to shoot a bow from it.
Joe is a thumb and you don't really use your thumb in archery.
I stopped listening to his podcasts when I realised he doesn't know the facts and spews what he believes are facts. I admire him to hold a conversation for as long as he does and keep it somewhat entertaining but beyond that it's nothing more than pseudo science.
One of the best greentext explanations out there
No; he's just a credulous idiot.
This is good shit
How dare you make me see this with my morning tea.
Fuck me this is hilarious Jo Raw Khan
Thank you for sharing this gift with us
Listening to the podcast "History of philosophy without any gaps" there's some philosophers, specially in middle age Arabic societies, that had the patronage of warlords, and would change patron for the new warlords who killed their previous one.
They couldn't exactly keep being patronized by a dead guy.
Seems to me a lot of people here pretty hostile to Joe. I can only say he has been more than open and interacted with good faith with guests that I listen to than anyone in "media". His talk with Bernie Sanders and his agreement with certain aspects of Sanders agenda should dismiss the claim that he's a libertarian shill. I try to approach him as a topic in good faith as well.
He's being called a neandertal because he seems to agree with a lot of fringe opinions. I try to think of how I would react if talking to a person who I have no idea about their area of expertise and how I would deal with claims that they make. Sure he gives a voice to cranks, but he also gives voice to people across the spectrum, some that I actually want other people to hear from. That's kind of what free speech is about right there.
Do not hide behind "freedom of speech" - you are completely misinterpreting why people don't like Joe Rogan.
The #1 criticism of Joe Rogan is that he gives an equal platform to real science and pseudoscience on the biggest podcast in the world. He's turned plenty of nutjobs with absolutely terrible theories into household names.
Fair enough. I don't feel like I'm hiding behind freedom of speech as much as I'm saying that it's fundamentally important to the functioning of a healthy society. With that comes knowledge that some people out there are going to be dishonest shits. If what I'm saying about it's importance is true, then that should be the starting point for any discussion like this.
The question is then, who get to decide what is appropriate to talk about? What percentage of the people he talks to have to be agreeable before he comes off as a good actor? I would never have become a leftist if it weren't for information out there that didn't fit the national narratives that we get from existing im the US.
This whole covid fiasco has been an excellent example of people who were off narrative (lab leak, anti shutdowns etc) being at least partially vindicated by the actual outcomes later in the game. It's not always the case, but it happens and we should be aware of that.
Sure he has some left-leaning guests, but he also claims that January 6th was instigated by the FBI, and pushes an anti-healthcare agenda. The ire he gets is well earned and justified.
Do you really trust someone who took numerous traumatic hits to the head to give solid political and health advice?
I'd have to look at those claims to know if that's actually true. It may be, but media/internet hyperbole is so overplayed I'd wager it isn't actually true. Like I said though. I don't know about that specific instance.
The thing is, if the FBI hadn't framed so many Muslims in the US, during the war on terror or fascilitated the Whitmer kidnapping, maybe claims like that wouldn't gain traction as easily.
I can only say he has been more than open and interacted with good faith with guests that I listen to than anyone in "media". His talk with Bernie Sanders and his agreement with certain aspects of Sanders agenda should dismiss the claim that he's a libertarian shill.
"He agreed with Bernie on like 2 things (because he just goes along with whatever the last person to talk to him beleives) so all of his comments about covid being fake or Jan 6th being a false flag are irrelevant and he's definitely nit a right wing shill guys. Freeze peach!!"
That's kind of what free speech is about right there.
Nothing you described has anything to do with free speech.
What listening to Joe does to a mf.
Nothing irks me more than 'free speech' troglodytes who have no idea what free speech means.
He’s being called a neanderthal because he seems to agree with a lot of fringe opinions.
I mean that's just a symptom of the biggest complaint about him. He's really gullible. He's not malicious, but god damn he does not notice a liar when a liar is in front of him. Genuinely I do love his long form content, I love how people can go off topic with him, but some of the people he brings on really should be going in front of Jon Stewart instead.
Like... here's an example of someone clearly lying, dodging questions, and genuinely being sketchy. He's gotten a bit better but would Joe Rogan push this hard against somebody? If someone dodges his question, how well does he bring the topic back to it? Joe Rogan is great when everyone is there in good faith, but would you want him in your corner if you're stuck in a timeshare conference?
This is kind of where I'm coming from. I'm not a regular listener of his so my views may be outdated. I just think a lot of malice is dumped on him that I don't think is necessarily fair. That being said, he is a public figure so being dumb only gets you so far as an excuse.
I also like long form stuff, and I like to talk to people who know things, so at least in an ideal sense I'm positive on his format. B
😂 for the timeshare conference
You're dealing here with mostly teeanagers and bots... they just follow the herd... fairness isn't really something they care about. All they care about is "is he one of us and agrees with every nut job agenda that appears on main stream media".
It's not a coincidence that the top posts here always agree with all main talking points of mainstream media. You're basically facing the most brainwashed people out there, that have the will to defend everything that makes them miserable. Anyone who says anything against it will be called names and disqualified. Joe Rogan is one of those people.
They say "dead internet theory" explains all the botting... I think it's just that the majority of dumb people, who have intelligence comparable to basic bots, are now prominent. Let's not forget that half of the people in the world have below average intelligence. So, don't waste your time. Just read and laugh.
