No, you love the creators you watch. Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder. I use newpipe, i never see ads but if i have a creator i want to support i send them money as direct as possible without middlemen (direct donations during livestreams for example). i pay the creator for their work. If google wouldn't violate my human dignity by shoving a camera up my ass 24/7 i might consider giving them money to run their servers but as long as they try to make me a product they won't see money nor data from me
That's a fair point, maybe I should look into using newpipe and use what was my monthly payment as a direct donation to my favorite creators instead. Thanks for the informative reply!
If they have a patreon, that would be the best way short of putting the money directly in their hands.
No, you love the creators you watch.
And Youtube makes that possible. Show me another service that is as good as Youtube is? Unlimited uploads for everyone, extremely fast constant delivery network. Require no logins or accounts to access the site. 4K video etc.. etc.. All for the low price of free with ads, or pay for no adds. They every are even one of the best at paying content creators. There is a reason almost every content creator ends up having some kind of account on Youtube.
Youtube, as a google company, created a businessmodel out of stealing data/private information and selling it to the highest bidder.
I don't believe Google is in the business of selling data. There business is ad delivery. They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.
They keep the data to themselves as it is their secret sauce to deliver ads.
I don't think that's entirely true. They won't sell direct data, but through their ad and search systems your ads can drill down to very specific people and thus you know about them. It's still crappy. It's kinda unfair I think to outright say they don't sell your data. You data is their core money maker. It's just in a round about way. Sure maybe it doesn't bother you, but in my opinion, the collection of data is the core problem with modern technology, not even just the internet. Data is extremely powerful and valuable.
If money could stop things from enshitifying, there would be very few shitty things on the planet.
If everybody on the planet subscribed to YouTube premium they would still become enshittified.
Even with 8 billion monthly subscriptions at $10 a month or more, Google would raise the prices and provide less service.
They would do whatever they have to do whatever they can do to extract the most amount of money they possibly can out of the product.
This is not just because Google is a shit company, this is because greed knows no bounds. The only way for a company to stop being enshitified is for the company from the top down to be radically opposed to enshittification.
Only a good King can stop enshittification.
There are no good Kings in Google.
I know. Late stage capitalism is much more of a negative than a positive.
But I did say slow enshitification. Slow =/= Stop.
Enshitification:
Let me just share a few FOSS apps that are arguably better than their official google counterparts.
For YouTube: Libretube, NewPipe
For YouTube Music: InnerTune, ViMusic
And, not open source, but if you want to support the creators (and artists) you like, buy merch. YouTube doesn't get a cut of the merch sales to my knowledge.
Sorry, but I'll pay for it when they stop spying on everything I do. And worse, is that they make it intentionally bad when you turn off suggestions.
Fuck google and the horse it rode in on. Never paying them a single red cent. They already make bank selling my data.
Fuck em with a cactus.
I'm still annoyed at the removal of google play music. I want to just buy tracks or albums, instead of a subscription, and just own a flac/mp3/music file I can do anything with.
I rip cds now, and feel 0 guilt for that even though its illegal here because quite frankly the artists are getting more money this way.
What country do you live in? Curious to know which country wouldn't ripping cds
UK, they ruled it was legal then later ruled that it wasn't.
I used https://bandcamp.com/ a couple of times. You can buy albums and get a link to download mp3 files.
Check out soulseek.
Depending on where you live, you could buy music (both individual tracks and albums) from 7Digital. It's only a website so no need to even install an app. And in case some track/album isn't available, you could use a VPN to buy it.
sounds like propaganda
YouTube, removes downvote count, and implements shitty start up noise that I can't disable, and raises price. Then wonders why I don't want to pay for that shit.
and the shorts start up page pops up as soon as you open yt , to push you into the mindless scrolling
A certain rebrand of vanced is super helpful as it gives you the option to hide shorts.
Let them sell my data that they're tracking, it should cover the costs.
Enshittification is not a thing that will be slowed if only we just pay Google more. It's a well-honed business strategy. Nobody in their right mind would stop their plans just because people start paying them more, voluntarily.
ReVanced is the way.
ReVanced resurrected Sync for Reddit for me, maybe I should check out what ReVanced does for YouTube.
Revanced YTmusic > Spotify premium.
ReVanced gang checking in
ReVanced FTW
ublock origin on my PC works amazing. I forget yt has ads most of the time. If web drm becomes a thing I'll hopefully have a pinhole in front of my traffic by then
Not sure if you meant pihole or not, but if you did, I thought I'd just mention that a pihole doesn't remove ads on YouTube due to the fact that the ads and the videos are served from the same server. You block the ads, you block the videos. Made me quite sad after I set my one up.
Unless you didn't mean pihole, in which case do enlighten me as to what a pinhole is :))
A little VPN to Argentina does wonders for the bank balance. I don’t mind paying but I refuse to pay extortionate amounts.
I still have no clue how to complete this process, so I just use ReVanced.
It was quite easy I think.
VPN to Argentina. Use incognito browser. Sign in to YouTube. Sign up for premium. When asked for an address use Google maps and pick a random residential address in Argentina.
I think that was it. Was a few years ago now.
Just use ReVanced
Got a new phone and number.
Wanted to log into YouTube.
Had to wait a month to get the verification email because google is a shitshow when it comes to security.
Ended up never using google products since then ever again.
It's kinda weird how they track you so much, yet they can't even get their shit together to make recovering your account easier.
They're option if you can't get any access codes at all? Delete your account.
So they're basically saying "yeah we really care that no one else should be allowed access to your account. Not even you if you fuck up. But, we thank you for building an amazing portfolio of your digital profile. Now fuck off."
If anyone has an issue where you genuinely can't get into your account. If you have an android tv with the Google account linked, or, and I'm assuming it works as well, an android tv box, go to the built in Web browser. It'll let you sign into your Google account where you can disable all 2fa.
I got caught out by this, and because I used my Gmail as my Samsung account, I was also locked out of my Samsung account.
And a little tip to Google. If you're going to forcefully collect all of this:
Then let us at least fucking use it to sign into our accounts.
Actually, I said "recovering" which is false. Google doesn't let you recover.
I was about to say "well at least they don’t want your contacts“ and then I remembered that you sync your contacts via google.
Alternatively: Firefox for Android + uBlock origin addon works well for me.
Unfortunately, there's no Sponsor Block addon for Firefox Android.
If you go through a ton of hoops, you should be able to get sponsorblock on firefox android.
It requires getting firefox beta, logging into your account. On, a pc, going to the mozilla addons website, logging in, creating an addon list. Then enabling addon lists in firefox beta. I found this which helped me, but the addon I wanted to use (libredirect) wasn't available on android. it does say firefox nightly, but I couldn't find the option, only ok firefox beta
I'm using NewPipe now after Vanced finally quit working for me about a month ago and it's great and sooo lightweight but I'm definitely missing some features from vanced. However, I'd rather kill myself than pay for YouTube premium and NewPipe is free so this is not me complaining.
I'm using InnerTune, another FOSS option, in place of Vanced music and again, works great just missing some features.
You've found quite the hornets nest, it seems.
I pay for premium because YouTube does video delivery better than anyone else in the world, and it's not free for them to provide. Lots of things to hate about YouTube/Alphabet, but theft is a corrupt way of expressing discontentment.
Also, if I pay for premium, then content creators get paid, and I don't have to shell out for merch to not feel like a terrible person.
Or you can use an ad-blocker. Also youtube is profitable just fine. If it wasn't Google would have shut it down a long time ago.
I hate Ggle as a corporation, but LOVE YouTube. With that being said, FreeTube, NewPipe, and InnerTunes will be used by me until YouTube/Ggle goes bankrupt. After they replaced G**gle Play Music with YouTube music I want them to burn a fiery death.
Lol yeah downloading newpipe is suuuch a hoop to jump through. 🙄
I'd rather click two buttons than give them my card information and send them money, but ok.
Have you tried Piped? It lets you watch Youtube without ads, though you can't use it to comment, but I say you should give it a try.
Cope, mald and seethe, Youtube shill.
It's like saying AAA games should probably be way more than $60. Despite the fact they used to be $40... then $50... and more expensive carts have ALWAYS been around since the SNES? and definitely N64 days lol.
True. Google has good regional prices and pays creators more than some other streaming services. By not blocking ads I support both platform and creators. Furthermore, creators in my country get more money from premium viewers than from ads.
I would gladly pay twice the current price of premium if they stopped tracking me and open-sourced their code. Do they expect me to pay for a worse experience than the free alternative?
I would gladly pay twice the current price of premium if they stopped tracking me and open-sourced their code. Do they expect me to pay for a worse experience than the free alternative?
People get so insufferably smug about this. Also, completely ignore the YouTube music bit, and just talk about how to block ads.
Same. It’s like $5 for 6 months if you use a VPN at checkout. At that price point, why not.
Is that trick "safe" for your Google account? I wouldn't mind paying for yt premium, but it's really not worth 7€ a month to me. Maximum half of that.
If I did that I would just create another Google account specifically for YouTube so I don't risk my main account. But then my main account has so many subscriptions and so much watch history that would also be a significant dislike for me.
I'm grandfathered in at that permanent 7.99 per month, it's a no brainier.
Wish I was lol
Your ignorance is so cute! I could just
punchpinch those cheeks!What would you say to someone with premium that still uses revanced because it's a better client? Probably nothing because there's no script for that.
I used revanced on sync for Reddit to keep it alive past it's death date, though I'm much more engaged with Lemmy since Sync released for it too.
What makes the revanced version of YouTube better to you? Maybe I should check it out.
