Donald Trump's Gen Z popularity plunges
Donald Trump's Gen Z popularity plunges
A poll shows the president's net favorable rating among those aged 18-29 has fallen dramatically in the past three months.
It's like Christmas. You don't need to be popular all the time. Just in the month before it matters.
What surprises (and worries) me is that, for his popularity to plunge, he had to have it. So he was popular among gen z's. How can someone that young think trump is a good choice is something I can't fathom.
Because young people are gullible and weren't paying attention when he was president before.
Source: I was a young gullible millennial who voted for him in 2016
I find it hard to believe an 18 year old can't see the evil narcissist in Trump. You'd have to embrace that evil to vote for him.
Hatred of LGBT, emigrants, any people who need help, even victims of natural disasters. He blatantly made fun of a handicapped reporter for his handicap!!
It's good you got wiser, but you can't put this down to just being gullible.
Podcasts are super popular right now. Theo Von, Joe Rogan, Kill Tony, Shane Gillis, Matt McCusker all have a huge audience. They are all pro Trump; Tony famously spoke at a Trump rally, and Rogan is constantly pushing a pro conservative message.
Social networks have all gone to the right, as their leadership stands to benefit. Most of our major newspapers and entertainment networks are also owned by billionaires.
They own the messaging right now, and people aren't thinking critically because they are either distracted or don't know how.
Part of it is that the left isn't seen as fun. We're too serious and judgmental all the time. Many times there's good reasons for that but young people don't want to constantly hear about taxation and proper pronoun usage. Talk about legalizing LSD or something once in a while.
And yes, I understand that the right isn't fun in a way that most people would want to be but there is definitely something to be said for not gatekeeping language to an absurd degree. Let people express themselves without all the "well actually that's ableist because..." interjections. People only listen to you a finite amount. If you burn through your educational goodwill on minor stuff no one is going to listen when you warn them about important stuff like fascists taking over the government.
We need to get more young people listening to Robert Evans.
I don't think Gillis is pro-Trump from clips I've seen over the last ~6 months? Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the impression he's just deeply apathetic. Theo Von I honestly dunno--and I'm not entirely sure he knows because I think he's just kind of dumb guy (but relatively aware of it, in contrast to Rogan).
They came of age during Trump’s first presidency, when he inherited a lot of gains made under Obama’s tenure. They saw things go to shit during Biden, who inherited both a pandemic and the consequences of Trump’s actions, and was a bit lackluster in dealing with them.
They simply didn’t have the life experience to see the bigger picture beyond that. Trump seemed like a good president because their lives were better during his presidency, but correlation does not equal causation.
Its certainly not just the kiddos who get tricked by that sleight of hand either. I feel like my whole life its just been a cycle of Republicans quickly fucking shit up, then a Democrat gets elected and rights the ship. Then because it's not instantaneous the populace votes in another Republican that will fuck shit up again.
It looks like the Republicans know what they are doing because they can coast on a few years of the past administrations corrective measures.
The education system spends a lot of our elementary years inducting us into the propaganda engine. We pledge allegiance to the flag and learn about how we won the west and how we beat off the British.
You slowly get ideas that that's all kind of BS throughout school. Once you get out into the real world you get disillusioned if you're lucky. You either follow the propaganda, or you think he's just another in a long line of assholes. The American dream is a pipe dream you don't love anything That's likely coming for you in life so why not watch it burn, It seems to be pissing a bunch of people off which is an unexpected amount of power.
And it's all perfectly fine right up until the point where you yourself are burning and scared for what little you're given in life.
He was extremely popular with GenZ men. They were hitting voting age during his first term, when they reaped all of the benefits of things like the rock bottom COVID interest rates. Many of them were able to buy houses fresh out of school, while the millennials before them were so bogged down by student debt that they weren’t able to get those low interest loans. And then they saw Biden fail to address (or at least fail to broadcast that he had addressed) virtually any of their concerns.
And all of that started while they were still barely 18, and lacked the knowledge to understand that many of Trump’s biggest wins were inherited from the previous administration, or that Biden had been handed a shit sandwich and was making do with what he had.
Because people see him as a disruptor. They think that if they change things radically, they will end up on top.
To be fair, if they are 18 now and voted for the first time they were 10 when he was first elected.
During the election I assumed that the younger cohort was lock-step opposed to trump — until — my college age daughter told me that many of her school friends were probably voting for him. I was absolutely flabbergasted and had to reset a lot of assumptions I’d settled into. During the first trump administration, I was clinging to the expectation that younger generations would be our saviors, but I can no longer count on that.
Some of them are really, really smart, but most of them are dumber than we are. It's just like every generation at that age.
They made huge inroads chasing the incel community. The left wants to dismiss actual young male issues because men have historically had the upper hand, but there are actual things causing hardship for the, and being repeatedly told to suck it up because someone who looks like them didn't have those problems does not keep them in your corner.
How can someone that young think trump is a good choice is something I can't fathom.
Lack of experience seeing these kinds of people.
I once saw someone explain Trump's popularity...
Cityfolk can tell that this guy is a useless yapping businessman who probably doesn't know shit, and is probably going to rip you off and stab you in the back at any opportunity he gets (maybe just for fun).
People in rural areas haven't had as many opportunities to interact with these kinds of people, so they aren't on high alert.
The reason those scummy business people are so successful is because they're charismatic (in a way), they're confident, and they give answers that people want to hear (even if it's a fabrication).
Confident, charismatic people that say what people want to hear? He's going to get a lot of votes. Especially from the people who don't know how to detect that.
Then there's the fact that Trump blames his enemies for his failings, combined with various psychological factors in the voters (sunk-cost? Being blind to their own lack of knowledge?)... he's able to maintain his status amongst his cult.
I'm in my 40s. I spend a lot of time at the bar. I see a lot of 20-somethings talking pro-Trump or just thinking it'd be funny to vote for him to "shake things up".
I've yet to see anyone express regret yet though. I do see a lot more red hats. I do have to resist murder.
He somehow gained support with gen Z from 2016->2024.
What surprises (and worries) me is that, for his popularity to plunge, he had to have it
Technically it just needed to be non-zero. You can lose popularity even if you're already pretty unpopular.
Echo chambers are a hell of a thing
Twitter was well-known to be infested with bots when it was sold to Musk. It turns out, that made it much more valuable to a rich asshole who wants to sway elections.
Sean Hannity and other right-wing talking heads are always shitting on "legacy media", because they are pushing the "new media" that is full of bots, fake accounts, and more easily manipulated young people.
Social media and their engagement maximizing algorithms.
GenZ don’t watch TV or read print media so almost 100% of their news is getting filtered through an algorithm that has the sole purpose to keep them hooked. Hell, even search results are biased. One really has to go out of their way to get facts outside of a personalized feed.
GenZ are definitely not the reason we have a buffoon as a president and a psychopath as his controller. This article about GenZs changing their views says more about their willingness to think critically than all the older voters who have chosen not to despite the 2017-21 hell.
People are stupid and selfish. That's human nature.
Hopefully this poisons the generation against Republicans for decades to come...
I know growing up in a conservative dominant government they definitely made it so I have never voted conservative in any level of government for the past two decades.
Sorry, but anyone dumb enough to vote for Donald Trump after witnessing his first term is too stupid to learn from their mistakes.
An common explanation for swinging voters is superficial contact with politics. People are too busy with other things in their life to put two and two together. As a result, they make superficial decisions based on current feelings.
I would think that schools also frequently fail, by not providing any tools for political analysis.
Gen Z barely got to know his first term, that's probably why. Either in high school or college. Still a dumb decision, but at least it's a bit less bad?
No, that’s exactly not what’s should happen. This whole mess has its roots in the fact that everyone only cares about populism and partisanship.
The solution isn’t to blindly turn to the Democrats, because then the whole thing will tip right over in the other direction, which will be different, but not better.
What’s really needed is a reformed Republican party, that can offer real competition to the Dems, instead of pushing a platform of a popular liar to win elections, while dismantling the fabric of democracy and driving the country into a wall.
The change is from kids who were old enough from 2016-2020 to understand, but didn’t pay attention. Their parents were gen x.
Hopefully this generational infatuation with the right dies here (millennials’ kids are next). It takes time to fix national-level brainwashing- if we are lucky enough to survive it.
Fucking idiots...
here's the funny thing we can laugh about in the rubble searching for safe food and water, they won't admit ever doing it
Same thing with W. So many conservatives shit on him and Cheney now, but it wasn’t long ago they were all frothing at the mouth for that bullshit war in Iraq
There are plenty of other racists to support him in America.
I roll my eyes every time another "poll" declares something. They dont know anything.
A majority of those polled support your position on polls
Are we trusting news week now? Didn't seem to be the most reliable website
Right on time
I’ll admit that I was in that position, once. The difference is that when I did it I voted for McCain, not a failed actor and businessman with a clear plan to tear apart our democracy.
It’s great that people are waking up to this, but the damage is done. We’re going to all have to fight tooth and nail to stop and undo the damage, if we can at all. Hang on to your butts, people.
Glad it is crumbling.
I hope they eventually wisen up when it's time and vote for president Camacho.
Jokes aside, I wouldn't be surprised to see a President Beast in our lifetime though.
There's no way you can get Gen Z to commit to the Nazi life. Lol. Too fucking lazy to be racist enough. That's our saving grace...a bunch of fat asses. And I say we should celebrate that when this is over...the pizza act. Everyone will serve 1 day per month to the entire process of making fast food...from the GMO experiments, to planting and harvesting, and milking and cheese making, to cooking and serving this delicious American tradition. The end goal being the pizza rights act. As long as you have served, you'll be entitled to a certain amount of government pizza. Hey, if you're unemployed you got time to have pizza every day!
And why limit it to pizza, I say we include all facets of Americana eatery...artery clogging lard infested foods of all, including tacos.