Dems "pissed" at liberal groups MoveOn, Indivisible
Dems "pissed" at liberal groups MoveOn, Indivisible
A closed-door meeting for House Democrats this week included a gripe-fest directed at liberal grassroots organizations, sources tell Axios.
And I am "pissed" at Jeffries and House Dem leaders. If you aren't going to help then get the f*ck out of the way and go fetch AOC and Sanders.
Shut like this is why I call them Republicrats. The only way they could be more factually centrist is to go farther left.
My outsider perspective has always been that the usa democratic party was simply about keeping the masses "happy", with the entire emphasis on the quotation marks, giving juuuust enough leeway on something while doing everything the corporate overlords demanded
while doing everything the corporate overlords demanded
Did the "corporate overlords" demand the last 3 Dem presidents raise taxes on the wealthy and/or corporations? That would be weird since their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd top priorities are tax cuts for billionaire elites.
giving juuuust enough leeway
Then how did FDR create Social Security, LBJ create Medicare, and Obama create the ACA?
The one and only way to achieve major progress is for Dems to win and win big.
And the only way to win the class war is to raise the top tax rate on billionaires back to 70% or 90%.
The tone of your response is off. They're sharing an impression that they admit is a perception from outside. There are 236 other countries in the world, and they probably don't learn much at all about FDR as we do.
Corporate democratic elites are so pathetic. They express they anger at organized grassroot organizations that are ready to fight, but instead they beg their donors to not abandon them and continue to fund them...
Hakeem Jeffries met privately with Silicon Valley donors in bid to ‘mend fences.’
Grassroots organizations aren't giving them giant slush funds of cash for their election campaigns or offering them 6 or 7 figure salary jobs after they leave office so what good are they?
They are just so fucking detached from their base if they're pissed at long-established normie groups like MoveOn and Indivisible. We're not talking about the insurgent left flank here, they're pissed at the very core of the party.
God I want some names on this.
God I want some names on this.
Jeff Jeffries
It's really something we've seen happen dozens of times before in the last few hundred years. These big liberals, these Grand bourgeoisie, the Arch capitalists they just have no real support base. They rely entirely upon convincing leftists and the little liberals, the petite bourgeoisie, to make common cause with them. But they just can't resist fucking over everybody. They cannot for the life of them resist doing only things that enrich them and their small Cadre of rich friends. Their support base is an inch wide and not even that deep. Liberals just aren't our friends. At best they're temporary allies who were always looking to put a knife in our backs. We need our own party.
We need our own party, but before that can happen we need nationwide elimination of first past the post elections. Or the demise of the Democratic party. I'll take either but preferably both.
They rely entirely upon convincing leftists and the little liberals, the petite bourgeoisie, to make common cause with them.
Okay comrade. Liberals, ultraliberals, and radicals are all part of the left spectrum. You are using leftist as a synonym for "radical" because you are afraid to call yourself "radical". How about not trying to disguise who you are and just own the word "radical". Or "Communist" or "Stalinst". You just jumped to a new label "leftist" because you trashed your old labels "Communist" and "Stalinist".
Liberals just aren’t our friends
If by friends you mean "fellow Communists" then hell no progressives aren't your friends. Stalin was literally an ally of Hitler and being a Communist is little different than being a Nazi. The reason why we don't like Traitorapist Trump is because he is authoritarian like Hitler and Stalin.
Hey genius, the term leftist has existed longer than the term communist and stalinist have. It ain't new. Maybe learn some goddamn history before the start of the 20th century. Then maybe you'd know what fucking traitors Liberals are and have always been. Since their Inception.
Liberals are not leftists, they never have been. They certainly aren't progressives. You know what Liberals are? The birth mother of fascism. Fascism grows from capitalism. It's the end result.
At this point should I just register Republican instead so I can try to get more progressive Republicans in their primary? I'm pretty sure the DNC has disappeared up its own asshole.
This has nothing at all to do with the "DNC". It is a completely different group.
[A closed-door meeting for House Democrats]
so I can try to get more progressive Republicans
LOL Those went completely extinct in 1980. Your only choice would be between archconservative extremists and full scale reactionaries.
I mean... Are they not members of the democratic party? I don't get to blame party leadership for bad party strategy, cohesion, or lack of overall tactics or messaging?
So, they're complicit basically? They sure aren't slowing down his nominees!
We need a third party so bad. And to run the dnc off a cliff.
While true in spirit, first past the post voting kind of ruins everything:
The Democrats need to be browbeaten and taken over, not competed with, until we get ranked choice/alternative vote/single transferable vote, or something like those.
Brow beat? I am fully down to beat Richie Torres ass with my bare hands.
It says "House Democrats", not "DNC". These are 2 completely different groups. Nobody in congress gives a shit what "the DNC" thinks about anything. You cannot change anything if you don't know who is doing what.
I'm honestly pissed at progressive groups. The 2024 elections should have been a jaw dropping moment for them. Eight years of #resistance resulted not only in a Trump victory, but MAGA as a whole being more popular than ever.
Instead their response seems to simply be to deploy a tweaked version of the 2017 playbook with Elon as public enemy #1 instead of Trump. I'm extremely skeptical it's gonna work.
I feel that these groups suck all the oxygen out of the room, and prevent an effective opposition strategy from forming.