Germany won’t arrest Netanyahu ‘because of its Nazi history’
Germany won’t arrest Netanyahu ‘because of its Nazi history’
I guess in the next 4 years Israel will show its true face.
That is pathetic and shame on the SPD. A murderer is a murderer and I do not give a shit about their religious background and history. I refuse to vote for the AfD and Linke, but sometimes the SPD pisses me off.
As a German, this seems like a cruel joke to me - "Because of our Nazi history, we are committed to protecting against an ICC warrant the person currently performing a genocide, establishing camps to "concentrate" refugees and then even bombing said camps".
Fuck our government. This is about a war criminal and in my opinion it's absolutely furthering antisemitism to allow the Israeli government to continue these atrocities. The best way to reduce antisemitism is to have the Israeli government commit less atrocities.
Yeah they took the wrong lesson from ww2. Its not about jewish people and antisemitists, its about innocent people and people who commit genocides. Both jewish people and non-jews can be genociders and innocent people.
it is sad that this even needs to be said... Fully agreed..
Because of nostalgia then?
Germany sure does love their genocides.
So sick of this comment. They don't do this because they like genocide, the problem is unwavering loyalty to Israel
uh...
excuse me but...
WHAT THE GOD DAMN FUCK?
This I would say shows that they actually learned nothing from that experience. If there was anyone in the international community that should arrest yahu on the spot it's Germany. I'm curious did Germany extend the same to the Hamas leader the ICC put a warrant out on? otherwise I'd say they're guilty of playing favourites. Lets go one further, how about Putin? Is it only b/c he is Jewish? then that's just discrimination.
And its Nazi present, apparently Great move using the Holocaust to justify another genocide though. Really shows how much was learnt there.
My guess is that they are saying this because in September 2023 they made a deal with Israel to buy their missile defense system. Instead of buying a European version with the French mind you, but that's a whole other stupid fucking can of worms.
Well, October 2023 passed by and then it got a bit trickier over time to support Israel. But besides demands to maintain humanitarian care for Gazans, my government has done nothing of substance to stop supporting Israel. It is beyond shameful, this decision will haunt us in the future when Israel inevitably loses its position and we have to answer why we are so stupid to buy from Israeli right wing extremists (and the US) to begin with instead of starting EU projects if we have to. Not to mention the biggest thing, supporting open genocide.
We always talk big about EU stronk, but I can't help to sympathize with the French (and other EU govs) when they are pissed at my country. We have taken the call every time the US wants something instead of considering European interests plus have run austerity for 20 years now in every government in the time period. We have a real knack for getting ourselves into a dependency of big powers, even Russia with their gas. We lack any vision how to fix our problems and build a strong European union while being the biggest member. Meanwhile the right builds it's own vision, fortress europe. Thanks Merkel, thanks Scholz, you're really good at managing.
All this to say my government sucks because they won't arrest Bibi. Fuck that guy and frankly fuck Israel for committing a genocide. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk.
How ridiculous is it to rely an army on a missile system from a colony which Germany needs to kiss the floor for? If they can't even count on Israel to deliver the weapons unless they support their war crimes what is the point of relying on that.
"We wont arrest Netanyahu because of our Nazi History, and the fact that it warms our blood to see a faithful brother of the Reich rise up and continue Hitlers work. Sieg Heil, Netanyahu!"
Arresting one man and arresting millions as slave labor and then gassing them are two very different things.
I can see their point but it's a bad comparison. This seems to me to basically be a PR decision. I don't know how much was backing Netanyahu before, but I think it would be a better look if they arrested him to stop the genocide.
No one told me that Jews have a crime pass in Germany. I need to start planning cooler vacations.
If you are an anti-zionist Jew in Germany you'll face a brunt of repressions. German "anti antisemitism" comissioners even go as far as calling anti-zionist Jews "allegedly jewish", thereby deciding who are "good" and "bad" Jews.
Ah...so they're continuing with their support of the evil... They learned nothing... Are we sure they aren't Democrats?
Are they saying they're choosing to continue that history?
Yes
As they have since the Namibia Genocide which gets conveniently swept under the rug
New plan, convert to Judaism, move to Germany, rob a bank, and get away Scott free.
No, no. This only works if you commit a genocide.
Move to Germany and slaughter everyone in AfD
Since when is a religion a defense against war crimes
Since religion was invented.
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Wink 😉! C'mon fool, c'mon over to Germany! You won't be arrested because of our history which doesn't relate to anything you might be doing currently...
I'd wish this was ploy, but frankly they just lack any back bone...
Game recognizes game.
Former genocidaire recognizes current genocidaire.
Unfortunately international media is not capturing the gravity of the German government winding around and refusing to say they abide by the ICC decision.
Here is todays gov. press conference in German. Maybe Youtube provides auto-translation. I think the faces and the way they talk can be understood even without knowing German.
It's incredible how they can say nothing while speaking for 30 minutes. Gotta appreciate the very critical press though, refreshing to see. Where I live the press will ask what they had for lunch and then leave it at that.
Oh they've elevated it to an art form. They did actually say quite a lot while saying so little though, always pay close attention to what they're comfortable talking about (such as Germany's stance towards the ICC and the rule of law) vs. what they're not comfortable talking about (what that stance implies, concretely, in this situation). If you think that's unsatisfactory then they will, I quote, take notice of that, but they won't humour you and spell out what can be inferred so you (or rather press) have a soundbite that would cause the foreign service diplomatic headaches.
And, yes, the journalists have also elevated making them squirm to an art form, to make sure that the interviewed officials don't waffle when it is merely convenient, not expedient (at least according to the officials). Also of note the conference is run by journalists, not officials.
Thanks for linking to the video. There is an auto translate option for it buried deep in the CC settings (at least there was for me).
My impression that I was left with is that the guy speaking is basically panicking because he doesn’t want to look bad.
My reaction is “Good. Let the bastards squirm!”
The German government has gone out of their way to silence any opposition to genocide. Fear of looking like a Nazi is the closest they will come to self awareness.
I think the faces and the way they talk can be understood even without knowing German
interesting statement. Especially from someone who speaks german like you do. I've seen some of your comments in german speaking lemmys and I am pretty sure that you are actually informed about how german politics work. So you know that Olaf Scholz along with his party SPD and by extension the coalition is weak, indecisive and bland. This exactly is the reason why they make a statement that boils down to "we're not deciding anything right now but we can't imagine arresting Netanyahu". They are simply cowards and not the evil genocide loving villains you want to portrait here. You should really know better than spreading this polarising divisive crap. I know it's easy and fun and you'll get your upvotes, but that doesn't make it true
We are not talking about indecision over lowering taxes or budget allocations. We are talking about Germany backing Israel and arming it, while very blatantly ignoring, relativising and sometimes denying Israeli crimes. We are talking about upholding international law for the prevention and punishment of war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I watch every of the press conferences. The statements are almost identical to a year ago. And almost every conference, so two to three times a week, the topic comes up as yet another crime was committed so outrageously that it made news, or another report showed how systematic the crimes are.
And in this particular instance they were asked repeatedly, how come they didnt prepare for the warrants to happen and now they claim, that they would first have to look i to whether they recognize the ICCs authority, despite that having been ruled by the ICC in 2021 already.
This is all very deliberate. And it is not like the speakers just got the topic served today. They are giving these talking points and evasions consistently since a year. They are in full support of what they are saying as any decent human would have resigned from such a position long ago. Sometimes in the conferences you saw some of them seriously struggling emotionally, because something in them must have told them that it is wrong to reply to the intentional starvation of millions or the murder of children with "right to self defense and this is all Hamas fault." Othertimes you can see them smirking like when they denied knowing anything about the pager attacks. Or a bit more recent regarding how they misrepresented the clashes in Amsterdam where one question was regarding the video of Maccabi hools hunting Amsterdam locals in the street that was misrepresented as Maccabi Hools being the victims instead of perpetraitors in this specific video. Hebestreit started attackinf the question asker, how he dares denying what has happened in Amsterdam, which the question wasn about at all.
They seem a bit cowardly now, that they got yet another slap by reality that is hard to ignore, but they have been the talking heads for the heinous conduct of thos government in regards to Israel happily for more than a year now.
The Nazis killed more Russians than Jews. Does that mean you would also not arrest Putin?
If you want to pull out of the Rome Statute, just do that, motherfuckers, and spare us the lecture.
Otherwise, fuck you and the high horse you rode in on.
While it is probably true that he won't get arrested, the headline is quite misleading: they're currently avoiding to answer the question, because the German also has a historical responsibility to adhere to the ICJ.
They want to enable Israeli imperialism while not looking like they didn't learn anything from being the reason the ICJ exists.
Herzlich willkommen Zum villains league. Tea? Coffee?
something something those who don't learn history are doomed to repeat it
Ignoring the UN which was created because of Nazi Germany, because of your past, as Nazi Germany, in order to once again play the role of Nazi Germany.
Something about the AfD.
Of any country that could legitimately get a pass on this, it would be Germany. I don't like it, but I understand it.
If anyone should understand what fascism is and how to spot a fascist, and the importance of stopping them before their genocidal plans continue it should be Germany. Cleary they’ve learned nothing. All those Holocaust memorials were for nought.
Comments like this are more likely to foster antisemitism than counter it.
This makes sense. Somebody else gotta do it. Bad optics.