Supreme Court leaves Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein off the ballot in Nevada

And God forbid they spend any money on local elections where they can affect things like I don't know actual green party issues.

Sure usually hangs out in Russia between elections, right?

That looks like a weapon.

I'll be voting solid blue regardless, but the "exact things I want" in regards to Democrats is not helping a genocide, because I thought that was a bar even they could pass.

I'm not surprised they failed even that, but it does radicalize me further and solidify my position that all liberals that call themselves leftists out of rampant ignorance can fuck off forever.

Yes, that latter point does describe how well you have summarized other people's arguments. Good luck to you on that one.

people forget about her vaccine skepticism, which is sad in a post covid world. There's a reason she didnt run in 2020

I feel like she isn't on the ballot in a large number of states. I feel like basic research would reveal this fact. I feel like she isn't going to siphon many votes away from Harris. I know for sure that people want to be able to blame her if Harris loses.

but she's done this like 3 times already.

running for president is literally all she does. she should be able to speedrun this by now.

Ha ha. After being shown the forms your face saving argument changes. Now they were the wrong forms.

The Green party was represented at the Supreme Court by Jay Sekulow, a Trump ally who was part of the president’s legal team during his first impeachment trial.

Yeah sure, it's the Democrats who are being dubious here...

Democrats has used dubious methods

you misspelled 'Green Party incompetence and/or procrastination'

They didn’t file the correct paperwork. They are not a victim here. They are ducking adults representing a ducking national party. You check the forms and make sure they are correct before you file them.

This is not hard. Every adult does it multiple times every year for all sorts of reasons. It’s a basic citizenship skill.

The fact that you can mess this up AND REFUSE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT like a ducking toddler makes it very clear they are not a serious political party.

I'm glad she's not on the ballot. But I don't like these bad faith technicalities. Although I do put 90% of the blame on the enforcers.

We just had a ballot initiative in Arkansas fall off because they were told the wrong thing by officials. And even then, they did all the things they were supposed to do (similar to this situation).

So the party that wants to have the responsibility of running the most powerful nation in the world didn't double check the title of the paperwork they submitted?

This isn't a normal person getting the wrong tax form in the mail and not noticing it. This is an entire party with nationwide offices and tons of people supporting it failing to recognize they were filling out the wrong form.

The more important question is, "when did they submit the paperwork and when were they notified that the paperwork was incorrect?" If the gap is really small, then they should have filed sooner. If the gap was really long, then maybe there was some fuckery going on.

EDIT - That said, I still hate when minor technicalities thwart important things.

The Secretary of State gave the Green Party the Green Party the wrong form

LMFAO at trying to blame a secretary of state for a very old and experienced political party using the wrong damn form

If you think Democrats are bad, you should see hostile foreign entities. If you can't do your bureaucratic due diligence to double check election forms, you are absolutely not qualified to lead an entire country.

This. The Brits have a first past the post system. Greens now are winning mayorships and parliament seats and making deals with labor not to split the vote in their favor because they have been building local support for decades.

They are a force in their districts, so they get elected to office in their districts. Do that to a few dozen districts and you can meaningfully affect the balance of power in Westminster. Then you start getting into coalitions and supplying ministers.

You can’t just wake up once every four years and hope to be anything but a spoiler candidate.

The thing about change, if you're only looking at it from a big picture and not a large time period, it might look static. But there's lots of changes.

What you have to do is be local with your change. Obama was a community organizer and it's often talked about as as something that has had such an impact, it's changed everything.

All politics are local.

Stein will always fail because she's always attempting to create the changes from top down. The USA will never work like that.

It's not a question of wanting competition or not. Political parties by nature will attempt to get as strong a coalition as they can, until they reach a size large enough that bisecting the party still leaves one half in power and some internal disagreememt triggers the split.

Fringe parties in America, like the Green and Libertarian parties, arent oppressed by some conspiracy between Rs and Ds. Rather, they are left at the fringe because they do not have any power worth pledging to, for the simple fact that in the american single-rep plurality-wins system tbere is no prize for second place.

Voters who like the current office holder work to keep them in power and those who do not work with the opposition to remove the incumbent from power. Anyone not joining one of these sides serves only as a tool for one side against the other, since anything but a vote for the runner up is an effective endorsrment of the eventual winner.

The American system is imperfect and could be a lot better, but fringe parties and vanity campaigns do nothing to actually encourage systemic change.

Not even Greens, they don't put any serious effort into local elections either. Any other (serious) third party would be better locally.

I'm in FL, so the alternative voting methods is mostly illegal, and to undo it is unlikely for a little while (20 or 30 years).

Right and it's why well never have a left of center candidate at all unless we get money out of politics. Which is not going to happen in the US. We're stuck with moderate conservatives like Biden and Harris as the only option south of fascism.

Ive yet to have anyone actually cite the forms and what specifically was overlooked. Like somewhere it just states this form not admissable for candidate qualification.

All of this is incredibly self serving arguments, you would be having quite an outrage if a democrat was barred from an election because of fine print technicality. Thats not what you actually care about, you only care that people you dont like suffered from it.

No, you cant, most states including nevada do not allow write in votes.

Yes democracy is when no outside of your party can run because that's oppressing you.