Seems more like globalism is to blame. They were from a Taiwanese company but manufactured in Hungary.
Guessing the source of the pagers didn't matter at all and Israel probably intercepted a shipment to plant bombs in them themselves. Lithium batteries can ignite, but they don't just explode like that. There were bombs put in those pagers, be it by Israel or whoever else, coordinated as a targeted operation.
So it wasn't just here in Italy that they tried to make us believe it was just a cyber attack... On national tv they brought up an old man so called expert who said they probably disabilitated overheating protection remotely and somehow magically the battery exploded causing that damage ... I don't know if I need to interpret this as an attempt at psychological terrorism or just one of the usual diminishing policy in favor of Israel To be fair they mentioned the probability of an actual bomb but in my opinion such an obvious error must not be carried over especially world wide 😱 It gives me chills that the news industry could make such big errors also while talking about politics crime health ...
You can absolutely make a lipo battery "explode" by overheating it by drawing too much power. But it's the kind of explosion where it spews hot gas and maybe catches on fire. You'll definitely get hurt, but that's about it.
You can do MUCH worse by overcharging it. (note the size of that battery). There will eventually be a fireball if you overcharge it and keep overcharging it when it's already swollen to a balloon. But you generally don't charge stuff while it's in your pocket.
These were actual killing-people-explosions. Lipo batteries don't do that.
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Assuming it was totally inadvertent. Totally.
Those people are idiots. You always need to check the credentials and history of people telling you something, and even then - if they're an expert in security they may know nothing about electronics or explosives or how secret agencies operate.
And yes, news can be really unreliable - on purpose or just out of mistakes. Gotta always keep that in mind as well, but it also reeeally depends on the particular media company.
Lipo's can absolutely burn your house down, but only while overcharging. Igniting a battery while you're walking around with it will at most burn your pants down, not kill you.
Exactly. I remember early days of smartphones before a lot of the safety precautions we have today were implemented, where we saw tons of videos of batteries spontaneously combusting. They expand, there's a pop, and then a small burst of flame that will ignite anything it touches, like your pants, tables they're sitting on while charging, etc. You can get pretty badly burned if this happens while it's in your pocket.
It's just that the videos that have come out of these pagers shows an actual explosion, as if they had been packed with C4. Enough to instantly kill some people with them on their person and harm adjacent passerbys.
Yeah as in BURN DOWN and not as in EXPLODE WITH FORCE AND SHRAPNEL.
Now I'm wondering how much of the price we pay is due to the cost of manufacturing and how much is just a bunch of middle-men driving up prices. Maybe this is just a case of a bunch of shell companies organized for military purposes but I'm going to guess that the practice is relatively normal enough that it didn't raise any red-flags among the other firms involved.
Can someone show me on a map where "the west" starts?
Here: https://xkcd.com/503/
It's less a geographical or hemispheric distinction, and more a political one.
This page on imperial core is good.
It's the big blob of central capitalism from when colonialism started to now. It's where the genocidal whites live, hence why Israel plays in the European soccer league.
I'm not feeling too genocidal at the moment and I'm not too sure what a big blob of capitalism looks like but it sounds like you are impugning me (int al) in some way.
If you are going to deliver a stinging attack on something you dislike, why not deploy an impassioned and pithy argument rather than ... that. You do at least manage to spell it's correctly, which is nice.
A western colony primarily made of western settlers and completely aligned with imperial core countries is western.
It's a political term rather than geographic. Same reason why Australia isn't part of the Global South despite being in the south, because it's controlled by colonizers.
Right in the middle of Berlin.
(This information may be 30 years out of date)
the west is not really a geographic term, and its not really well defined either it has 3 main uses:
most commonly: the west: as in western europe and their settlers colonial offshoots (excluding Spanish and Portuguese ones but including the Spanish and Portuguese themselves)
most uselessly and confusing: the west: as in the global north (also not geographic) in its entirety
and less commonly: the west: as in all european cultures or cultures derived from europe, so most of europe and all settler colonies
Essentially every country settled primarily by Europeans or their descendants, except somehow Latin America, Russia and Belarus, and, debatable, a few other European countries :D And potentially including Israel
There was once a term used for this, first world (US and allies) second world (USSR and allies) and third world (neutral-ish nations)
The reason latin america is excluded from the west is because 1) they don't exploit other countries via finance capital, and 2) most of them preserve both their indigenous cultures and populations, in a way that would be intolerable to US or Israeli settlers.
Apparently the middle west
It really just proves the point though. Hardware at time of production is a major security risk and any side needs to be aware and protect themselves.
It's just projection as always
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I'm out of the loop here.
Hezbollah uses pagers for communication. Israel intercepted shipments of pagers and rigged them with bombs. Then, an unspecified amount of time later, Israel detonated them during the day, yanno, when people would be out and about in public places. Thousands of bombs went off across Lebanon and killed and injured children, elderly people, and adults.
Of course, mainstream media is trying to pretend that Israel didn't potentially commit what should be considered a warcrime while assholes on social media are spinning this as a masterfully precise and accurate strike that didn't have a considerable amount of collateral (I've literally seen someone say "only people with something to hide would be around a pager in this day and age" verbatim), and that anyone injured or killed was a member of Hezbollah.
Like, what if one of those had been on a plane when it went off?
When ISIS plants bombs on people and detonates them in public places then it's a bad thing. Israel does it and everyone stands, claps and tips everyone with $100% bills.
Edit: I honestly wonder if it's only a matter of time before some IDF or Mossad shithead hijacks a plane and flies it into the Burj Khalifa.
The west makes electronics which explode using security backdoors.
USA and it's allies are just shoot themselves in the foot with this terror action.
https://x.com/zhao_dashuai/status/1836626658759184595
Posts from Chinese social media, stating factories are running overnight shifts to accommodate huge orders of communication devices from the Middle East.
A requirement from clients, is that the whole manufacturing process must be done inside China.
Yeah, you can't do something this cartoonishly evil without it leaving a last impact on the reputation of both your country and it's products.
Just to correct, the pagers were made by a taiwanese company, not chinese.
The pagers were licensed by the Taiwanese company. Officially produced in Europe by Hungarian company BAC. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/taiwan-firm-denies-making-pagers-used-lebanon-explosions-rcna171594. But BAC a shell company so the rabbit hole continues.
More recent update, all the actual manufacturers were shell companies wholly operated by Mossad.
I think the meme is suggesting that they were literally made by "the West" but maybe I'm missing something
Is this what happens after being vaccinated? /s
Also the west...
Those devices were rigged to blow by Israel, who then pulled the trigger.
This pissed off alot of libs lmao
What’s this got to do with libs? Comparing TikTok or other Chinese goods to a literal bomb doesn’t make sense, but whatever.
Every single one of those downvotes is from a lib lmao
You see braindead americans saying shit like that about Chinese products all the time; this is a play on that.
someone please explain?
The little black box with a screen is a pager. Pagers have been in the news because Israel made a bunch of Hezbollah pagers splode, in case you somehow missed all of that.
Correction: They made pagers explode. Hazbollah preferred, not a necessity.
You do realize those pagers were made in Taiwan right?
Just in case you hadn't seen this follow-up:
And some info even suggests that this B.A.C. company was a shell company owned by Israel:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/israel-exploding-pagers-hezbollah.html
By all appearances, B.A.C. Consulting was a Hungary-based company that was under contract to produce the devices on behalf of a Taiwanese company, Gold Apollo. In fact, it was part of an Israeli front, according to three intelligence officers briefed on the operation. They said at least two other shell companies were created as well to mask the real identities of the people creating the pagers: Israeli intelligence officers.
B.A.C. did take on ordinary clients, for which it produced a range of ordinary pagers. But the only client that really mattered was Hezbollah, and its pagers were far from ordinary. Produced separately, they contained batteries laced with the explosive PETN, according to the three intelligence officers.
