I've got banned from Apex Legends
I've got banned from Apex Legends
Got greeted with this message today. I've been playing Apex on linux for more than a year. Not sure if this could be related? Is this just me?
I've contested the ban and I'm currently waiting for a response from ea support.
UPDATE : Got an email response from EA today. It's basically a generic message saying that my account was associated with "cheating practices" and so they will not remove the ban.
This is absolutely fucking ridiculous! I've been playing this game since 2020 and have 3K+ hours on record, now this shit happens and there's no recourse ? Fuck this company.
If I remember right, about a year ago they were banning a lot of Linux players. It might be happening again.
Interesting, thanks.
EDIT: A Respawn employee on reddit is now asking for the user ID/gamertag of those banned on linux: https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/1fi77vs/comment/lnh13kj/?context=8
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Looks like you're not the only one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1f5kyd1/psa_using_proton_experimental_or_at_least/
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1ffxfjb/apex_legends_proton_epic_bug_that_do_that/
They've falsely banned linux players before, once in March 2023 and again in August 2023.
I got hit in the Aug 2023 ban, and had my permaban overturned after 1-2 weeks. Expect to have your appeal rejected, we had to make enough of a fuss about it to get a community manager to reach out to the development team to get people unbanned:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/15uqt7w/linux_users_getting_falsely_banned_again/
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Linux-players-getting-banned/td-p/12338557/page/50
I haven't played in 9-10 months since the false positive put a really bad taste in my mouth, so I don't have any datapoints to add for the current state of things, but I wish you the best of luck getting unbanned.
I see. Thanks. I'll just wait and see then.
There a free cheats for apex on Linux that are undetected by their shitty anti cheat. These Linux still eventually get caught manually so the anti cheat team just sees a lot of Linux users cheat and innocent players get caught in the crossfire b/c of their incompetence.
free cheats for apex on Linux
You gotta br kidding me. These people have no idea what kind of disservice they do to Linux.
I think it's more like they don't care.
Why do they care what OS people use? Is it the anti-cheat software that needs Windows?
Yes, it's invasive kernel-level anti-cheat common in competitive multiplayer games now, because cheaters will mod their system that much for the sake of getting around the anti-cheat. Annoying from all sides.
That, and despite many devs being Linux fans, there does seem to be a (false) perception that Linux is the OS of choice for cheaters.
EDIT: Just remember, can't play a game on Linux? It's ALWAYS either the DRM or anti-cheat. Either way, corporate BS that hinders honest paying customers more than the people it's trying to stop.
Not sure on ApeLegs but they have increasingly been disabling linux "support" for the Battlefields because of their anti-cheat.
I don't know how popular ApeLegs actually is. But for a lot of live games? Those are making MASSIVE bank and anything that can hurt the economy can kill the game. So a lot of studios actively just disable/block linux support because the added effort of making sure everything works in Proton is too big of a risk. Because nothing would increase Linux marketshare quite like free vdollars in Fortnite.
It really fucking sucks. But I find that many studios (like Digital Extremes) are really good about making it clear that even though they don't officially support Linux, they are very much fans of Proton (and Warframe has had a lot of bugfixes specifically FOR Proton support). Whereas EA has spent the past few months systematically disabling Linux "support" for every game they develop.
I don't know how popular ApeLegs actually is
13th7th most played game on Steam in the past 24 hours, and 13th at the moment https://steamdb.info/charts/
They don't. I've been playing Apex on Linux for years now. Apex is doing ban waves for cheaters. OP likely did something that looked like or was cheating.
In the past I don't think it was possible to even play on Linux because of the anti-cheat, but I think Proton worked out a way to emulate it. Maybe something to do with that if it's not technically "official" support? It's extra stupid if the emulated anti-cheat is working fine.
No. EAC and Battleye developed ways to explicitly support proton, which has to be explicitly enabled by the developer for the game to run.
Proton didn't change, the popular AC options did. They've had proton support pretty much since the steamdeck launched, and it works great as long as the developer of a game bothers checking the checkbox for it.
EAC works on linux just fine, and the fact that Apex runs, means Respawn deliberately allows it.
Fuck this company.
You're damn right.
I have them blocked on Steam. I don't care what comes from them, it's not worth it.
A year and a half back I was sent an email from Apex saying I was banned for hacking. I hadn't played apex for a year and my account hadn't been logged into during that whole time, so if they're false flagging players that don't even have the game installed then who knows that the fuck they're doing in their anti cheat. They actually reversed the ban when I contested it though.
I really love how various services nowadays will just ban you without providing any context why you were banned.
Probably half of the time I am banned I have no idea which rule I violated, which makes me more likely to violate it again, when I wait till I am unbanned or create another account.
I did try to create a new account, but it's really annoying because my original EA account is linked to my steam account, and cannot be unlinked. So I would need another steam account as well. Unless I can figure out a way to play without steam, which I'm not sure how to do because of... you guessed it, fucking anti-cheat.
@Matriks404
So aggravating ๐ญ I hate this type of nonsense
@helios
Tbh I know this isn't helpful, but I recommend take the L and find better games to play. Errantly perma banning users shows a lack of consumer consideration and does not deserve further energy to fix. They fucked up, take your business elsewhere.
Again, I know it's not helpful but I think worth considering. Companies some decades ago used to be user experience as the top goal, but that has gone to the sidelines for many companies, and I don't think it's good to normalize. Hence, boycott when it happens.
I'm sorry to say it is extremely popular (for some good reasons imo) and my friends are playing it. Besides, not a lot of competitive games even support linux to begin with. I was grateful that Apex did until now.
I got banned last year. It was for the best tbh
You filthy fuckin Linux casual!!!!
.../s
Same thing happened to me, unfortunate for us...
Classic EA
They probably just flagged you for not being in the normal environment. For all their bravado their detection is dogshit. I've had issues with them just flagging something over a VM and... flagging a batch file closing their launcher. I wish I was joking.
Nah, they are doing you a favor.
<< If this Linux guy is so smart to use that OS...it shouldn't play this shitty game. >> -EA staff, actually doing something good for the planet
Fuck this company.
They've been awful for many, many years at this point. I've no idea why people keep giving them money and expecting them to not be awful.
@[email protected] @[email protected], a Respawn employee responded on reddit and wants a list of user IDs/gamertags for those banned on linux:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/1fi77vs/comment/lnh13kj/?context=8
You're the goat! Thanks for sharing. I dropped a comment to the respawn employee and a comment on the EA thread linked in the reddit post.
Thanks for the heads-up. I messaged them my EA handle.
edit: wow it actually worked! My account is now unbanned!
Yes, please send EA ID and info ASAP!
Got my ban overturned :)
For the troll in here, idk your name I blocked you, the guy "very fluent" in these matters - take this opportunity to humble and educate yourself
Unfortunately people like that tend to be on the less logical side of things, in addition they also tend to believe themselves to be superior to others, so it's unlikely he'll actually do any research on that matter. It's likely that for him in gaming communities in the past this approach has worked, as those communities typically do not challenge baseless accusations or logical fallacies, not how it works in intelligent communities though, maybe he will learn it eventually, though in my experience on Reddit people like that have no restraint or filter whatsoever, they only stop once they have been hit with the ban hammer.
They certainly are in that less logical camp, that's for sure. And you're right, they have not and will not learn anything from this instance, or similar ones, going forward.
Did you pay for this game?
(Edit: just asking, not making a point)
No it is free to play. Besides, since I don't care much about skins and whatnot, I've never spent a dime on the game.
Now you'll say fuck this company. When they new game you like, you'll be first in line to pre order the game. If you really want to fuck this company never ever buy from them only raise your sail in high seas.
I never spend money on in-game items, so technically I was already not buying from them. I just enjoyed playing this game with my friends is all.
They banned you for a reason. I have yet to meet a cheater that admits it. They all deny it the last study done 57% of gamers are using some type of cheat.
Why would I open this post if I was actually cheating ? The whole point is that I got banned but never cheated. This is a false positive related to playing with proton.
These types of losers argue that anyone who was banned for any reason is a cheater, merely because they have a ban, and yes it's a logical fallacy to argue that, it's called circular logic. It's a common tactic among trolls, and bad-faith actors.
Cheaters make appeal request all the time. I admin for some game servers and never seen a vpn cause a false positive. As a matter of fact most cheaters use vpns to try and play on servers that dont allow vac bans by purchased/stolen/newsteam accounts. Only you and god know the truth but Im going off experience.
Yeah ofc cheaters don't admit it. That doesn't mean anyone accused of cheating is a cheater.
That "study" you are quoting is a survey from irdeto, owner of denuvo. And while skimming it I can't even find the claim that 57% are using cheats.
A study from irdeto? That seems like something totally reputable and not at all biased or with fudged information at all /s Yeah obviously not, this company is well known for lots of sleazy practices, as are a majority of DRM companies, it's how they sell their products. The upshot is it means it's very hard if not impossible to trust them when they create ""studies"".
Ever heard of EFT? Cause thats cheater central with probably close to 70% of gamers using cheats.
He didn't get accused he was banned ffs! There is a big difference. Most games catch about 30% of the cheaters but those are the one caught, there are a ton of cheaters in EFT who use ESP but call out to their team mates who are not using ESP to make the kill. Instead of just getting gud!