'If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that': Harris fires back at Gaza protesters at rally
'If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that': Harris fires back at Gaza protesters at rally
Kamala Harris fired back at protesters of Israel's war in Gaza as they interrupted her speech during a Wednesday night campaign rally in Detroit.
Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, fired back at pro-Palestinian protesters of Israel's war in Gaza as they interrupted her speech during a Wednesday night campaign rally in Detroit.
"You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I'm speaking," Harris said with a long stare, drawing loud cheers from supporters in the crowd before chants of, "Not going back!"
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Trump existing is the biggest gift the Democrats have ever gotten and they still lost an election to him. Their fundraising skyrockets if Trump is involved on the other side and they don't have to do anything because they just keep yelling about the boogyman. It's exactly how Republicans use the immigration issue and how Netenyahu uses Hamas.
If Kamala doesn't want Trump to win, then she should probably do what the voters are asking of her. --Whatever that is. Not listening to the voters could make her the second person to ever lose a presidential campaign against Donald Trump which would make her utterly pathetic.
I think the whatever that is is the problem. What would be enough in the israeli situation?
Holy fuck it’s like everyone commenting on this post simply refuses to understand the deeply dismaying and unfortunate - but very real - amount of influence AIPAC has on the entirety of the US political system.
I agree that it’s stupid and bad. But not admitting that it’s a real influence that has the potential to, you know, help the fucking fascists win is absolutely, categorically idiotic.
"We have to let Israel do genocide or they'll install fascism in the US."
Uh.
I feel like AIPAC is just a way for US politicians to get a higher salary. The feds give Israel money and an Israeli government associated agency gives politicians money directly.
They don't want him to win, they want to push her on this issue.
This is a disastrously bad idea. So bad I imagine her enemies are plotting and funding it.
Netanyahu himself could be doing this shit. He 100% wants Trump in power. Trump would support and help him destroy every last Palestinian in the name of protecting Israel.
If Kamala really needs the anti-genocide vote, she should convince old Joe to start sanctioning Israel now.
Netanyahu does not mind whether Trump or Kamala wins if Kamala continues supporting the Genocide.
Netanyahu
His only hope to remain out of jail is to keep the war going. So far, it's been successful, but even the most apathetic observer has to see hospital after hospital bombed, no cease fire, and hostages remaining - for what?
I wish she'd try triangulating instead. Maybe champion the idea of enforcing globally agreed upon rules and connect that to taking on the "Trumps of other nations"
"Don't protest our complicity in genocide or else you'll lose democracy and freedom."
There is a time and place for everything. When you are on the cusp of electing a president that will give Israel all the lea way and weapons to remove gaza from existence, maybe you should take it easy on the other candidate that will not do that.
No go ahead and protest the Dems and see what happens. I'm sure Trump and the GOP will listen to your pleas /s
If neither side is on yours, then it's not an election issue. Stop trying to make it one.
You're basically arguing that lobbying doesn't work. Lobbying by citizens can, in fact, work, and lobbying a Democrat on a human rights issue is more likely to work than lobbying a Republican. Of course, Kamala can ignore you (or tell you to shut up, like here), but she's at risk of losing votes.
Telling protesters that they're helping Trump win is incredibly tone-deaf, and the influence of Biden is showing. This is something that Biden would say to protesters.
Genocide will continue as schedule.
Only fools argue in ultimatums
Dumb. Acting like the good cop to Trump's bad cop routine is turning tons of people off. "You'd better cooperate with me now or I'll have to bring my associate in here, and he won't be so nice!"
Supposedly Harris told a representative of the uncommitted voting bloc from the Dem primaries that she was down to meet to discuss an arms embargo on Israel, but I wouldn't hold my breath. She needs to be more forthright about her stance, because the subtextual indications of being flexible on this and her hypothetical empathy for Palestinians I keep hearing about (but not really seeing in any meaningful way) are not cutting it anymore.
Wow, she's really bad at this while campaigning thing. Why not actually address the demands of her constituency?
Is it too hard to say 'I will stop supporting a country that is committing a genocide"?
It'll lose her votes and give Trump leverage. Welcome to politics.
So she decides to do openly tell people worried about an issue to shove it, which will lose her votes and give Trump leverage.
Not a master strategy.
it smells like shit in here
Common, everyone knows she is an establishment politician, pushed by hundreds of millions of Israeli money and the military industrial complex. she has no empathy to the tens of thousands of children being bombed in Gaza with American money and American made bombs.
Brat girl Summer, woo!
Well, Mrs. Vice President, if you don't want my vote in November, then say that.
I mean...Do you want trump to win?
The solution cannot be “don’t vote and let the other guys win” tho right? Kamala could have responded so much better, but that means we roll over?
I just can’t get behind this take. It’s like the religious people who actively seek out the end of the world so they can all be raptured.
My theory is that religious people want that, so they get into heaven without dying first. They are just afraid of dying.
You must not have heard about the trolley problem. I'm sure if I logically explain why you should ignore the deaths of your family members you would go vote. /s
iF yOu WaNt DoNaLd TrUmP tO wIn
Get fucked, lady.
🌴 Harris is just practicing democratic centralism like a true Leninist 🥥
I have no clue how I just realized that "Vote Blue No Matter Who" is a somewhat successful attempt at democratic centralism.