heroic games launcher is a foss epic and gog launcher, works very well and very fast for me on linux. it has a windows version, too.
Oh this is very cool. Thanks for pointing me in this direction
Can recommend. Have it on my steam deck and PC. Runs great.
I didn't know it had a Windows version. Thanks for the heads up 👍
You installed WHAT?!?!?
Meet 'n' HUH???
The competitor to the monopoly.
Why does it matter?
Market dominance ≠ monopoly
I say this because I assume you're talking about Steam, and as a service comparible to the Epic Store, users have A TON MORE options, choices, even more autonomy on Steam than on the Epic Store. Reviews, reselling of keys, reselling of cards, infrastructure to host communities, support systems, bug ticket systems, the competitive sales events, etc.
Not saying Valve or Gabe Newell are perfect, not at all - they are profit driven - and Steam as a store and launcher does have it's own issues.
But as far as I'm concerned the fact that Valve wants to bring commercial videogames to libre open source platforms, something Epic Games is against, is the deciding factor of why I continue to support this behemoth.
With the modern stack and infrastructure of today there is literally no reason not to port games to Linux, unless you want to rely on pervasive, kernel-level DRMs, which are inherently unethical because they take away control from the user and puts it in the hands of a company.
But that's my reason. People have tons of reasons to use Steam, whereas Epic Store is just an exclusivity portal. Also, it's launcher so soooo bad. Not just undernourished, but the UX design patterns make no sense - and when you do that job worse than Valve? Oh boy...
And again, technically speaking:
Market dominance ≠ monopoly
Epic Games, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo keeping certain fan favourite intellectual property on their store front exclusively? Monopoly. Technically.
Tested 5 clients on my PC 3 times each. Times were more or less consistent on each run, biggest variation seemed for Uplay.
Setup: You are already logged in, there are no pending updates, you terminate client after each run (did not see significant time difference between repeated runs and 1st run after you log in), your logged in Windows account has admin rights so time is not wasted entering password (EGS and Uplay require admin rights to launch), time stops once launcher is usable.
- EGS - 8 - 10 seconds
- Steam - 20 seconds
- GOG - 11 seconds
- Uplay - 20 - 24 seconds
- Heroic - 5 seconds
System: Ryzen 2600 with Samsung 970 EVO (2400 MB/s R/W as per Samsung Magician benchmark)
Is there any chance you can add a test for Heroic launcher as well? I advocate for using it over EGS, and I'd like to know how it stacks up.
Really exposing the Valve fanboyism in the room. Steam genuinely takes quite a long time to start. People pretend it's quick because they leave it running, while cold booting Epic/alternatives and complaining.
I find the video from LTT kinda hilarious with the 96 core threadripper. Breaking records in cinebench but Cities Skylines 2 still runs like shit (in a 1mio pop city).
Because chances are the 7800X3D will be faster due to the cache.
Real-world applications often can only be parallelized so and so much, before you start hitting diminishing returns for many reasons. A lot of it is about the actual technical design as much as it is the technical execution (you can't parallelize two operations if one depends on the result of the other).
The Epic Games store is so fucking behind I actually can't understand it. Is there a single intern they rotate between semesters to build their client? It feels like yesterday they actually introduced a favoriting system to the library.
Wow Ubisoft game launcher opens in... Never? Wtf I paid money for this game and then I need to buy it again because they didn't actually give me the account and now the launcher is just dead and I can't even open it.
Fuck that. I bought one of the assassins creed games legitimately, then had it refuse to launch after a few weeks because they updated their launcher and borked it. I then pirated that same game to bypass the launcher issue and pirated every other ubisoft game since then.
If I have to pirate games to get around a deliberate flaw you worked into your program, I'm not paying for that game.
Yeah I paid $30 for rainbow 6 siege I expect to be able to play it for more than 2 weeks. Like honestly it would be so much cheaper and easier to just use the steam launcher, since the game is already sold there, but no they have to be special.
use legendary
Electron + hell lot of JavaScript.
Every other time I play Chivalry 2 I get an ad pop-up (or 2) mid duel. Maybe I should just re-buy on Steam...
Steam can't be run in minimal anymore, internal browser always eats a GB of RAM if you want to play a steam game.
Well, now opens to a black screen in two minutes.
Might take a restart if you want some content in it.
I decided about 10 years ago that I just can't afford to keep updating my computer every couple of years just so I can play new titles. So now I just play old titles. And if you play old enough titles, you don't even have to go to a torrent site. You can go directly to the Internet Archive.
I keep rediscovering games I loved when I was younger. I've been playing Skyroads lately. I still love the music. You know how long it takes to load Skyroads on a computer from 2015? I have no idea either because it loads faster than I can measure time.
This has been your lecture from a crotchety old man.
OS Bottleneck
Do people just bash epic to bash epic?
No one I talk to in real life has ever had one of these complaints about the launcher, it has its issues, but logging and startup isn’t them.
Why would I bash EGS? How can I even bash it when it doesn't support Linux?
Epic takes 2 or more minutes for me to launch. Also when Im in my library, the page keeps refreshing randomly which shoots you back to the top. Very fun UI.
It's an issue with your setup my dude because it launches quicker than Steam for me
Yes. Over the years I just stick to Steam partly because it actually keeps me logged in and actually functions faster than a snails pace.
Uplay/Uconnect whatever they wanna call themselves today is the worst. But Origin/EA and Epic ain't much better.
egs games are drm-free and with Legendary it's a really nice experience (I'm using legendary with playnite)
never lost my token/login
the epic servers are kinda slow tho
There are valid reasons to bash Epic. I've written about some of them in another comment thread I made on Lemmy, but the overall problem I (and likely many others) have with them is a combination of their CEO's hypocrisy and the company's actions.
I didn't realise you could bash it? Isn't it a GUI application? And one that needs to run inside wine at that?
Same here. I run it on windows 11 and sign in with Google... never really noticed any performance issues.
While both of our claims are anecdotal, I've had it cause performance issues. It definitely isn't the normal behavior for EGS and was probably a bug, but on my system it was sometimes sitting in the tray consuming 10 GB of system memory (and causing excessive swapping due to memory pressure).
Yeah I've not heard of this either
