Thank the gods we live in such a car-saturated nation, how horrible it would be if this space was used to house people
Thank the gods we live in such a car-saturated nation, how horrible it would be if this space was used to house people
You forgot the homeless people, forced to live under that interchange because you know, america, freedom etc...
If they are lucky enough that nobody installed some hostile architecture there to keep them out.
Duh, moron, the future is you just live in the car.
You cant legally park it anywhere near anything useful for survival, and gas is expensive and so is car insurance.
But thats fine because cars and car companies have more rights than people! Or something...
What I am saying is anyone who walks to the grocery store /deserves/ to get run over.
Natural Selection mannnnn!
inhales
Alright, feelin good, got beer in the glove compartment, time to film my magnum opus:
DeathRace 2024.
YEEEEEHAAAWWW!!!
immediately peels out, doesnt see other driver blowing a red light until too late, swerves to avoid and crashes into the weed dispensary, paralyzing himself from the legs down and killing 4 others
In many cities, people are literally living in cars that don't run, in public parking spaces, because it's the only enclosed place they can afford to live in.
Yep, and that is almost always illegal, and such people almost always end up having the car towed, having to pay for the car being towed, losing all their possessions and then becoming homeless.
Its just a matter of time until enough people report it and the police get around to it.
Capitalist wet dream right here
cue America Fuck Yeah! song
This isn't a great argument. There is so much open undeveloped space in the US that could be used to house people. This interchange isn't taking space away from anyone. There are lots of good reasons to reduce cars, but this isn't one of them.
That’s not really true here though. This is in the middle of an urban area, not in some big open empty space that’s unoccupied, like Montana, or North Dakota. This is in the middle of Houston, Texas, a very populous city.
Calling anywhere in Greater Houston “the middle of an urban area” is just incorrect. It’s the 4th most populated city in the US and the 150th most densely populated. There are a lot of people in Houston but also just a fucking Tom of Houston around. But, as is the norm in this magazine, you are all free to ignore facts and data so you can raise a furor in your tiny anti-car cult.
Do you think the people here care about sound arguments? Nobody except for a select few hyper-fit nutjobs are ever going to walk even so much as an 1/8th of that images span for anything. The area is far too large to want to walk, so we use it for transit instead. Forget that it transports millions of people, products, goods, etc. They want it to house hundreds of people instead.
People who will then not be able to get those products and goods, because...they fuckin' ripped the road out!
The images span is about a mile... I know American fitness standards are low but I think most can walk an eighth of a mile.
Also it's not housing hundreds of people, as shown in the meme it could house 10s of thousands of it's not huge lot single family housing, but that's only if you care about "sound arguments"
Possibly. This isn't reddit... yet..
Let me take this apart: "Nobody except for a select few hyper-fit nutjobs are ever going to walk even so much as an 1/8th of that images span for anything." What's the span in the image? Maybe a mile? Two? Come on! IF the surroundings aren't noisy and are pleasant a normal average human of the planet earth is capable and willing to walk about 2-5 miles a day. In civilized countries you also have multiple options, it's not just "suffer and walk" or "sit in a car and bang your head on the steering wheel". Just the option to walk to most places where you need to go actually gets rid of some of the traffic that causes congestion. And the highway intersection hellscape depicted only serves the people who have no other option than to drive everywhere. It's a prison. "The area is far too large to want to walk, so we use it for transit instead." No, it's not.
"Forget that it transports millions of people, products, goods, etc." You know there are better ways to do this than building an eversprawling city with highways cutting right through it. Highways are among some of the most inefficient ways of transporting goods and people. They cause noise and pollution. Everyone wants to live as far away from one as is convenient. Not that these human errors aren't to be found everywhere in the world, it's just that it's only in the North America where this is more prominent than elsewhere. "They want it to house hundreds of people instead." You just looked at a picture where you have an area in Italy, similar in size to a highway knot in Texas that houses 30k people and you fail to understand what you just saw. 🤦♂️ "People who will then not be able to get those products and goods, because…they fuckin’ ripped the road out!" I can't even... 🤦♂️Yet again, another 'murican that can't fathom how people use their legs.
Yeah, but you can't get to the other side of Siena in 20 seconds? Efficiency isn't pretty.
/S (big a for big sarcasm)
Ah Houston, not a whole lot to like about living here.
Foods pretty good... but yeah.. that's all I got.
bUt wE hAve EnoUGh sPaCE!
Well damn start building apartments in the empty parts. Its not that difficult to understand.
With 6inch thick windows or intolerable noise pollution, sounds great. I wonder which one penny pinching developers are going to build.
Cars double as housing. Checkmate, socialist commies!
/s just in case, as is tradition now.
/s is not actually entirely accurate in this case. Here's an article on how US residents are trying to live in their cars by finding "safe parking lots" to reside in: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/05/safe-overnight-parking-lot-sleep-in-car-rv-homelessness-housing-shelter
So in the richest nation on Earth, cars do double as housing.
The /s was for the "Checkmate" bit 😂 Technically, of course you can use your car as a dwelling. But it's certainly not an answer (or at least, not a serious one) to a lack of housing supply, I think we'll all agree.
Even better: Leaving that land undeveloped and natural, instead of cramming humans or cars on it
People need to live somewhere, and if they live somewhere like Siena it leaves more space for nature.
Yeah, and the nicer urbanists can make cities the more empty land there will be. And I can live in a pile of rocks with animals for my friends while you all enjoy the nice cities.
Hell Yeah! Deer and rabbits have to live somewhere too. I wish I lived 15 min. from undisturbed nature!
Siena is (in my memory at least) a small, quaint, Tuscan village.
It's a medieval walled city of historical significance; the centre is a world heritage site. It's the location of the oldest bank in the world, one of the oldest universities and the central piazza is the venue for the Palio (a bareback horse race contested by the different quarters of the city.)
I went there by chance during a Palio. The whole city was alive in a way that I can't even begin to describe. Would definitely go back.
Still too many people far too close to me
What a dumb take.
Nah
That looks like hell. Where do you go when you want to get away from people?
The parks or your own home. I don't normally go into the middle of a highway interchange for solitude.
Parks with all the other people? Locked in a room in a 300 sq ft apartment with your family/roommates outside?
The interchange allows you to live far enough away from the overcrowded city that you can own a bigger piece of land where you're not packed in with your neighbors like sardines so you can actually go outside and sit and be alone without hearing 15 other families doing shit. It also allows you to have enough space to have a workshop space for hobbies or a garden or whatever else you want to do.
Interestingly, with this type of town, it's easier and quicker to go out of the town than in American car centric towns.
Public transports are more efficient. You don't need cars. You have parcs and actual green space. The energy consumption is also reduced.
It's no magic that they built these type of towns in the past. They couldn't afford our type of energy consumption and land use. And, it was more practical for the daily life.
